Greatest Male Solo Artist - Round 1 - Michael Kiwanuka vs George Benson

[Mook]

9 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

A few, but it can be hard to differentiate sometimes from people who do know the artist but just don’t like them. 

It's not too hard to work out when their post starts with 'I've never heard of *****'.

[Sugar Ape]

2 minutes ago, Mook said:

It's not too hard to work out when their post starts with 'I've never heard of *****'.

 

[Bjornebye]

Glad its not me getting the wrath this time. 

 

Seriously though Phil Collins not getting in is just pathetic and a sad indictment of the calibre of mutant we have amongst us. 

[TheHowieLama]

11 hours ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

What male solo artists from the 2000s and 2010s are a glaring omission from this tournament? Are there any? 

@Sugar Ape

There are probably two or three rappers that could make a good case. It is the most influential music of those decades.

From pop I would say maybe Bruno Mars and Justin Timberlake - both multitalented (can dance, sing, act, tell a joke) kind of a throw back to the Rat Pack.  Both have kick ass bands and are great live.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I’ve never heard of George Benson but in my opinion he’s shut/great (chose the one that annoys you most) and Michael Kitkatwanker is way better/worse. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

13 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Glad its not me getting the wrath this time. 

 

Seriously though Phil Collins not getting in is just pathetic and a sad indictment of the calibre of mutant we have amongst us. 

What?! Oh ffs. 

[alles ist gut]

18 hours ago, Chip Butty said:

As a butler and a purveyor of beds, Its Benson for me. 

Bensons For Beds rep

[VladimirIlyich]

1 hour ago, Mook said:

The Beatles' recording career didn't last much longer than seven years.

 

I didn't realise longevity only counted in solo artist contests, my apologies.

And what a 7 years! But again you've exampled a band in a solo artist's competition.

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

And what a 7 years! But again you've exampled a band in a solo artist's competition.

Hendrix' was a three year run.

Sam Cooke was probably about 5 years before he was shot.

Jeff Buckley had some shouts - he made one record.

 

[Mook]

17 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

And what a 7 years! But again you've exampled a band in a solo artist's competition.

When you're talking about longevity & quality, it doesn't really matter if it's a group, a solo artist or an orchestra, music is music.

 

If you need examples of great solo artist careers which were short...

 

Eddie Cochrane

Jeff Buckley

Otis Redding

Tami Terrell

Sam Cooke

Tommy Bolin

 

All possibly shorter than Michael Kiwanuka's.

 

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

A few, but it can be hard to differentiate sometimes from people who do know the artist but just don’t like them. 

They got knocked out second round but to a band that ended up going all the way to the final. And they knocked out The Talking Heads first round who are a pretty big and influential older band. 
 

Don’t pretend you’re not sitting there right now watching YouTube videos about how they faked the moon landing and JFK getting shot. 

Talking Heads.

[cloggypop]

6 minutes ago, Mook said:

 

Eddie Cochrane

Jeff Buckley

Otis Redding

Tami Terrell

Sam Cooke

Tommy Bolin

 

Not a single Mercury Prize between them. 

[KMD7]

1 minute ago, cloggypop said:

Not a single Mercury Prize between them. 

They're no Badly Drawn Boy

[Paul]

4 hours ago, Mook said:

When you're talking about longevity & quality, it doesn't really matter if it's a group, a solo artist or an orchestra, music is music.

 

If you need examples of great solo artist careers which were short...

 

Eddie Cochrane

Jeff Buckley

Otis Redding

Tami Terrell

Sam Cooke

Tommy Bolin

 

All possibly shorter than Michael Kiwanuka's.

 

For me greatness in a musical context is mainly about how much a song, album or artist stands up over time. I suppose it’s conceivable that something new transcends that but I can’t think of many examples. 
 

That said, I listen to almost nothing that isn’t new: usually brand new (as in just released) but sometimes an older track that’s new to me. 
 

So if I see “greatest” as the sole criterion in  a music poll, it’s not very likely the artist who hasn’t established that his songs stand up over time gets my vote. 

[Lee909]

4 hours ago, Mook said:

When you're talking about longevity & quality, it doesn't really matter if it's a group, a solo artist or an orchestra, music is music.

 

If you need examples of great solo artist careers which were short...

 

Eddie Cochrane

Jeff Buckley

Otis Redding

Tami Terrell

Sam Cooke

Tommy Bolin

 

All possibly shorter than Michael Kiwanuka's.

 

 

Robert Johnson

Janis Joplin

Franz Schubert(if you want to start down the classical route)

 

I don't think length of career is really that important, but if you don't have that on your side you really need to have done something special to get put among the greatest 64 male solo artists of all time imo. Its also fair to say that the majority of them artists would likely have gone on to even bigger things had they lived longer

[Mook]

I did state earlier in the thread that I wouldn't have Michael Kiwanuka anywhere near the greatest male solo artist of all time (to say he is would be ridiculous), I was merely defending him against people who supposedly haven't heard of him & yet were happy to have a pop. 

 

Looking at the context, it's easy see how he qualified, he's current, popular on here & has released a monster of an LP in the last 12 months. Bizarre that his inclusion seems to have caused more of a stir than Shakin' Stevens really.

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, Mook said:

I did state earlier in the thread that I wouldn't have Michael Kiwanuka anywhere near the greatest male solo artist of all time (to say he is would be ridiculous), I was merely defending him against people who supposedly haven't heard of him & yet were happy to have a pop. 

 

Looking at the context, it's easy see how he qualified, he's current, popular on here & has released a monster of an LP in the last 12 months. Bizarre that his inclusion seems to have caused more of a stir than Shakin' Stevens really.

Phil Collins didn't get in. Fuck em 

[Gnasher]

Cant find his thread but for those interested Michael ie spinning tunes on 6 music and they are banging.