January 2021 Transfer Thread

[Lee909]

3 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Teams have been defending deep and doubling up on the full backs against us for years. It's not that teams have adapted, it's that the energy levels aren't where they were used to be, and the pressing has been hurt by the lack of having CB's that can play high up the pitch, as Lebon said. So we're not imposing our style and we're not getting into games and teams can then set up their defensive block. And when teams are allowed to do that consistently, there's just no team that will be able to break that down easily. It's about imposing our game. Right now, teams are imposing there's against us, instead. 

 

And so, what is a solution? Buy a centre back. 

Other teams fullbacks are rarely coming wide, they are playing with 4 CB without the ball, add to that 2 CM sitting very deep. 

 

Look at the past few games, it's been 6/8 defenders in the box. 

 

Trent's been very poor and we ha e been incredibly slow on the ball. The players look shattered. We got through it last year because we kept plenty of clean sheets. We are neither scoring enough or defending well enough. Fabinho is missed in midfield aswell. 

 

 

[3 Stacks]

5 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Other teams fullbacks are rarely coming wide, they are playing with 4 CB without the ball, add to that 2 CM sitting very deep. 

 

Look at the past few games, it's been 6/8 defenders in the box. 

 

Trent's been very poor and we ha e been incredibly slow on the ball. The players look shattered. We got through it last year because we kept plenty of clean sheets. We are neither scoring enough or defending well enough. Fabinho is missed in midfield aswell. 

 

 

But if you look at games like Southampton for example, or Fulham, they blitzed us early. It was not at all 8 defenders in the box until the second half of those games. And by that time, the pressure is on, and we have to resort to shit crosses against packed defenses. The problem is therefore the approach to matches and that we can't do what we normally used to do and impose our style. There are impediments to that, which as said, are the injuries at the back and the general drop in motivation. 

 

Klopp has to motivate people or get defenders who can do what he wants. Else, this will continue. If we were getting suckered by bus parkers every week, it would be one thing, but that's not what's going on.  

[aRdja]

14 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Teams have been defending deep and doubling up on the full backs against us for years. It's not that teams have adapted, it's that the energy levels aren't where they were used to be, and the pressing has been hurt by the lack of having CB's that can play high up the pitch, as Lebron said. So we're not imposing our style and we're not getting into games and teams can then set up their defensive block. And when teams are allowed to do that consistently, there's just no team that will be able to break that down easily. It's about imposing our game. Right now, teams are imposing there's against us, instead. 

 

And so, what is a solution? Buy a centre back. 

Teams have worked us out to an extent. We have no presence in the box and no one bar Ox and Shaq who likes to take a punt from outside of the box. Therefore defending deep and in numbers makes total sense.

[Lee909]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

But if you look at games like Southampton for example, or Fulham, they blitzed us early. It was not at all 8 defenders in the box until the second half of those games. And by that time, the pressure is on, and we have to resort to shit crosses against packed defenses. The problem is therefore the approach to matches and that we can't do what we normally used to do and impose our style. There are impediments to that, which as said, are the injuries at the back and the general drop in motivation. 

 

Klopp has to motivate people or get defenders who can do what he wants. Else, this will continue. 

I agree with Southampton especially 

They looked far more up for it and totally outplayed us in the first half. 

 

The whole season has litteraly issue after issue and really not let us get going. Injuries, VAR issues going against us, and the inevitable drop off from last season. Add to that the lack of a proper break. But we haven't looked the same since the restart anyway. 

 

Jota looked the needed fresh face to the squad. Without injuries I have little doubt we would be well clear. 

[3 Stacks]

2 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Teams have worked us out to an extent. We have no presence in the box and no one bar Ox and Shaq who likes to take a punt from outside of the box. Therefore defending deep and in numbers makes total sense.

Defending deep makes sense against almost every superior club to yourself. People have not just figured this out this season, mate. 

[aRdja]

10 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Defending deep makes sense against almost every superior club to yourself. People have not just figured this out this season, mate. 

Swap Bobby with Lewandowski or Jimenez then it’d make them think twice, cos chances are they’d get punished for it. 

[an tha]

33 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Teams have been defending deep and doubling up on the full backs against us for years. It's not that teams have adapted, it's that the energy levels aren't where they were used to be, and the pressing has been hurt by the lack of having CB's that can play high up the pitch, as Lebron said. So we're not imposing our style and we're not getting into games and teams can then set up their defensive block. And when teams are allowed to do that consistently, there's just no team that will be able to break that down easily. It's about imposing our game. Right now, teams are imposing there's against us, instead. 

 

And so, what is a solution? Buy a centre back. 

Is right...said pretty much same myself.

 

The centre half situation plus the knock on effect on our midfield has really upset our structure and style.

[Remmie]

The pass it to death every single fucking time thing has to be on Klopp. I am also sick of seeing the same pattern of recycling from midfielders and full backs until Henderson floats/crosses it from 40 yards out to a packed defence. We look really predictable

[Code]

8 hours ago, Johnlj said:

Different leagues. None of them with a playstyle to lump it to a big bastard. Slow leagues with defenders able to read the game ahead of time and get into position. Sure they needed some aerial ability, but here you just need that aerial presence all the time. If we sign him I sincerely hope to be proved wrong, but to be perfectly honest I don't see him winning a duel in the air against a player like Kane etc.

Do we have any teams in the PL these days with a big bastard up front?

 

I personally want my CB’s to be around 1,90, but Alaba would do nicely at 1,80, no doubt in my mind. He is also the versatile player Klopp loves, cover different positions.

[Harry Squatter]

 

 

 

[an tha]

Klopp has talked down chances of signing a centre half as well.

 

Think that is the league and european cup gone if is case.

 

Would be a terrific achievement if we won something now - just can't see it now, prove me wrong, redmen.

 

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-news-fsg-jurgen-klopp-19581069

[Tony Moanero]

[Lee909]

1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

 

 

 

Yeah cause loads of clubs will loan us a good CB. 

 

The only hope you get is either a injury prone player that a club want rid of like Umtiti(though Barcelona would likely see us as a competitor in Europe) or someone absolutely shite like Mustafi

[Bobby Hundreds]

If we don't sign a centreback it feels like we've written off this season. Any money spent can be recouped its not like we need another van dijk we just need a competent centreback so we can put our midfielders back were they belong. 

[Guest]

I'm sure Chelsea have a young centre back and there has been talk of a loan to Leeds. I'd we can't improve on Henderson at centre back, that must mean every defence in the Premier league is gash, which would our recent results look even worse. 

 

Steven Caulker looks appealing right now. 

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

40 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

I'm sure Chelsea have a young centre back and there has been talk of a loan to Leeds. I'd we can't improve on Henderson at centre back, that must mean every defence in the Premier league is gash, which would our recent results look even worse. 

 

Steven Caulker looks appealing right now. 

This is the area where I blame Klopp and not FSG.

 

Even if FSG are tight cunts (which I think they are), Klopp could get in players on loan (not just this window, but past windows). What's it going to take for him to ask for defenders? All of them injured?

 

What club plays one of their most influential players at his midfield position at centre back at detriment to the team with Hendo? We've already done this with Fabinho to the detriment of the team.

 

We're really thick as fuck.

 

Lost for words.

[Moo]

58 minutes ago, 1892-LFCWasBorn said:

This is the area where I blame Klopp and not FSG.

 

Even if FSG are tight cunts (which I think they are), Klopp could get in players on loan (not just this window, but past windows). What's it going to take for him to ask for defenders? All of them injured?

 

What club plays one of their most influential players at his midfield position at centre back at detriment to the team with Hendo? We've already done this with Fabinho to the detriment of the team.

 

We're really thick as fuck.

 

Lost for words.

So you blame Klopp and say "we are as thick as fuck", so Klopp is a thick as fuck?

Listen to yourself.

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

24 minutes ago, Moo said:

So you blame Klopp and say "we are as thick as fuck", so Klopp is a thick as fuck?

Listen to yourself.

Yes I blame Klopp.

 

We as in the club in the sense that we're fucking up our chances of winning trophies you fucking retard.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

17 minutes ago, 1892-LFCWasBorn said:

Yes I blame Klopp.

 

We as in the club in the sense that we're fucking up our chances of winning trophies you fucking retard.

Come on mate no need for that.

[El Dangerous]

Yeah, leave Klopp alone.

[Guest]

There seems to be mixed reporting on things Klopp is saying...

 

Liverpool are reported to be keeping abreast of developments and could yet make a late move to sign a talented Toulouse defender, according to a respected French journalist.

 

Reds manager Jurgen Klopp has faced numerous calls to add to his depleted back line with a new defender. Indeed, all three senior centre-half options are on the sidelines with injury.

 

But the calls have grown stronger due to the fact that Virgil van Dijk and Joe Gomez are long-term absentees. As such, midfielders Fabinho and Jordan Henderson played as a pairing in Monday’s defeat at Southampton.

 

Klopp addressed the situation on Thurday and suggested his hands could be tied over any new recruits.

 

“I cannot say definitely we will not bring someone in, it’s just not likely because of the situation in the world,” the manager told reporters at his press conference.

 

“So we should not forget that the situation is a tough one for all people and for football clubs.

 

“There might be some clubs without any financial problems but with these owners. This club has always been and always will be responsible with the things we do.”

 

Now reports from France claim the Reds could be ready to make a late play for Toulouse centre-half Mohamed Simakan. The 20-year-old has been the subject of sizeable interest this month. Both AC Milan and RB Leipzig are looking to sign the France U20 cap.

 

Reports in Italy state an initial €15m offer from Milan looks set to win the race for his signature. However, Telefoot reporter Julian Maynard claims Liverpool are keeping tabs on the situation. He writes the player will soon have to make a choice on his future. He adds though that Liverpool are ‘keeping abreast of the situation’ and ‘should quickly make an offer’.

 

Whether Liverpool do make their move remains to be seen. But a concrete offer from the Reds would give Simakan serious thinking to do. It’s not the first time Simakan has been linked with a move to the Premier League. Chelsea, Everton and Wolves have all been touted as suitors in the past month.

Klopp admits finances are tight

While a possible £18m outlay for Simakan would not break the bank, any new signing must pass a strict check from sporting director Michael Edwards.

 

 

Klopp also suggested earlier that, without the coronavirus pandemic, Liverpool would “definitely” have looked to address their concerns.

 

“If everything would be fine, we won the league, the Champions League and the club is in the best situation – and then you have three senior centre-halves all injured. Is that a situation where normally you would do something? Yes. Definitely,” he said.

 

“But we are not in that situation so I don’t know if something will happen. You maybe could do something but not a short-term solution because that’s not right. It doesn’t help. So we have to deal with the situation how we dealt with it so far.”

[an tha]

Surely someone will give us 15m for Origi.

 

West Ham have just sold Haller to Ajax....

 

Get him down there - get the money in!

[dockers_strike]

A piece in the Echo

 

Given that Liverpool are the reigning Premier League and indeed FIFA Club World Cup champions after the 2020/21 running of the latter was delayed, you'd think that Jurgen Klopp would have few problems enticing new talent to Anfield.

However, prominent journalist Fabrizio Romano, who is big on transfers, reckons that isn't the case.

Liverpool Offside quote him as telling the Here We Go podcast:

“A lot of players now don’t want to join Liverpool [and just] play 5, 6, 7 matches, [before] the big ones are coming back from their injuries and then [the new signings] are on the bench for one season or more.

So, at the moment, Liverpool are still with the same idea: ‘We can stay with this team. If we have an opportunity, OK. If we don’t, we stay with this one’.”

It's a curious take, especially when you consider how new signings such as Diogo Jota have shown they can work their way into the side if they're good enough.

[an tha]

8 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

A piece in the Echo

 

Given that Liverpool are the reigning Premier League and indeed FIFA Club World Cup champions after the 2020/21 running of the latter was delayed, you'd think that Jurgen Klopp would have few problems enticing new talent to Anfield.

However, prominent journalist Fabrizio Romano, who is big on transfers, reckons that isn't the case.

Liverpool Offside quote him as telling the Here We Go podcast:

“A lot of players now don’t want to join Liverpool [and just] play 5, 6, 7 matches, [before] the big ones are coming back from their injuries and then [the new signings] are on the bench for one season or more.

So, at the moment, Liverpool are still with the same idea: ‘We can stay with this team. If we have an opportunity, OK. If we don’t, we stay with this one’.”

It's a curious take, especially when you consider how new signings such as Diogo Jota have shown they can work their way into the side if they're good enough.

What a load of shite....our squad is pretty thin in a few areas so if you are a quality player and not made of fucking wafers like Tsimikas, Keita, Matip and Oxlade then you will get games.

 

Pisses me of this - when we were shite it was 'Liverpool can't attract best players because they want to challenge for trophies'......now it is 'Liverpool can't attract players because they fear they won't play'....

 

Never seemeed to be case for Mancs or Chelsea when they were on top or the oil cheats.

 

 

[aws]

We don't really want players who don't think they're good enough to challenge.