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Villa (A) Premier League - 4/10/20 - 19:15


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Leeds got 4 against us, playing through the right hand channel and now we shipped 7 against Aston Villa, both using the same weakness. Klopp will really need to do something there, because we will get torn by every team that has a fast winger, unless we change it up.

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3 minutes ago, Mark M said:

Arsenal got in against us with the high line and had one offside that was close - the match had only one goal in it at the time.

it’s interesting listening to villa players say they had a game plan and knew they’d get chances with the way we play 

See, that part is way too simplistic. Of course you take risks and big chances are available for the opposition if you play a high line, the difference is *ducks from Klopp* we were immensely sloppy. And have been for the most part since March. Before that though, at our sharpest, the high line was close to inpregnable. 

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9 minutes ago, Manny said:

Can I just say, regardless of the result, how fucking irritating it is when deflected goals are described as "deserved." The difference between a deflected goal and a blocked shot is dumb luck but one's seen as a waste of possession and the other is seen as "deserved that, can't win the lottery without buying a ticket" etc. We had 5 shots blocked tonight. Did we "deserve" five more goals for getting shots away? It's fucking bullshit.

 

We were utter shite but two key moments really went against us. Adrian basically set their gameplan up in the first five minutes - they were only ever going to sit deep and run at The High Line (TM) and getting a free goal early doors gave them a proper platform for it. Then after Salah pulled the first back we needed to build up a head of steam but that McGinn deflected goal just put us back to square one.

 

That said, we looked outrageously vulnerable. As someone said above, the high line works well when the forwards press cohesively, the midfield are aggressive at picking up loose balls, the defence are organised and straight and everyone has faith in a goalkeeper covering the rest: it's high risk but when it works it makes us virtually impossible to play against. None of those were in place today though and it just felt like a perfect storm - a slight change to the attack, a midfield that just weren't on it, and a defence that just seemed bedraggled - possibly due to the clown between the sticks. Add in three deflected goals - one of them coming at a crucial moment for them - and hopefully, hopefully, it's just one of those days.

 

We need a shaman for Alisson though. Or a new reserve keeper.

You forgot to mention gormless gomez, was directly at fault for 2 goals tonight. Fab in gom out. 

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7 minutes ago, Butch said:

What are you on? These defeats are a rare occurrence, Last heavy defeat like this we went on a 60 odd game without losing again. We've not champions of everything by accident, forget this one off shit show and prove who's boss when we play the bloos. 

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No need for that.

 

A 7-2 dicking is not an acceptable occurence, it is extremely rare even for teams who are shite...therefore what we have seen today should be very concerning, teams just don't ship 7....good teams certainly don't....champion teams - it must be unheard of. It's a result of massive, massive shock value 

 

However as i said i trust us to put it right, but lets not play this down.

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16 minutes ago, DJLJ said:

Leeds got 4 against us, playing through the right hand channel and now we shipped 7 against Aston Villa, both using the same weakness. Klopp will really need to do something there, because we will get torn by every team that has a fast winger, unless we change it up.

We should consider I) swapping Virgil and Gomez around or II) playing Keita exclusively on the left hand side of the midfield triangle

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5 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

This result is a once in 50 years event. It won’t ever happened again in our lifetime. 

Not suggesting it might, but fact it has happened is extremely worrying - it just does not happen does it!

 

Even we very, very rarely manage to do it to teams - a 3-0 ala Watford last season or 5 against a top side like City when down to 10 are of course tough to take, but can shake them off as 'bad days' this is unreal and is a proper shaker.

 

Of course though as already said these players have loads of credit bank and have shown they are champions, trust them and Klopp to bounce back.

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3 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

This result is a once in 50 years event. It won’t ever happened again in our lifetime. 

But we'll be hearing about it for the rest of our lifetimes, that's the most upsetting thing.

 

"So Liverpool have just won the 2046 Champions League, and heres Martin Tylers head in a jar to talk about that time they got beat 7-2 by Aston Villa".

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17 minutes ago, an tha said:

No need for that.

 

A 7-2 dicking is not an acceptable occurence, it is extremely rare even for teams who are shite...therefore what we have seen today should be very concerning, teams just don't ship 7....good teams certainly don't....champion teams - it must be unheard of. It's a result of massive, massive shock value 

 

However as i said i trust us to put it right, but lets not play this down.

After man utd won the league they got beat 5-0 by Newcastle and beat 5-2 by Southampton the week after.

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Just now, General Dryness said:

But we'll be hearing about it for the rest of our lifetimes, that's the most upsetting thing.

 

"So Liverpool have just won the 2046 Champions League, and heres Martin Tylers head in a jar to talk about that time they got beat 7-2 by Aston Villa".

Martin Tyler’s head being in a jar can never be said to be an entirely upsetting occurrence.

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