Our wage bill

[Red74]

After finding it incredible that Man City would have a lower wage bill than us and seeing various discussions that our wages cant be that high, I thought while I had nothing better to do for 10 minutes, Id have a look at what the estimates say.

 

GK

 

Allison - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Adrian - £30k pwk - £1.56m

Karius - £40k pwk - £2.08m

 

Def

 

VVD - £180k pwk - £9.36m

Matip - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Gomez - £35k pwk - £1.82m

Trent - £50k pwk - £2.6m

Robbo £60k pwk - £3.12m

Tsimikas - £50k pwk -£2.6m

Neco - £15k pwk - £780k

 

Mids

 

Hendo - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Fab - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Naby - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Milner - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Ox - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Gini - £70k pwk - £3.64m

Curtis - £20k pwk - £1.56m

 

Fwds

 

Mo - £200k pwk - £10,4m

RF - £180K pwk - £9.36M

SM - £150K pwk - £7.8m

Shaq - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Divock - £45k pwk - £2.34m

Minamino - £60k pwk - £3.12m

Brewster - £30k pwk - £1.56m

 

Total - £106.5m pa

 

I reckon Jurgen must be on £10m and the coaching staff prob £3m between them so at a rough guess £120m pa for the 1st team squad.

 

The Echo said the players pool for winning the league was £4m and the high profile players who signed recent upgraded contracts would have pocketed between £500 - £750k bonus which would have been covered by the sponsorship bonus payouts.

 

Now considering were paying £274m in wages before pension and NI, theres a lot of people earning some serious wedge from us.

 

Ill open this up to the floor 

[Funkasy]

1Manchester United F.C.£134,415,000

2Manchester City F.C.£129,987,000

3Chelsea F.C.£114,940,000

4Arsenal F.C.£97,606,273

5Liverpool F.C.£87,880,000

6Everton F.C.£73,132,000

7Leicester City£72,100,000

8Crystal Palace£69,862,000

9Tottenham Hotspur F.C.£68,978,000

10West Ham United F.C.£51,064,000

11Southampton F.C.£44,616,000

12Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.£28,903,000

13Brighton & Hove Albion£24,442,666

14Fulham F.C.£24,336,000

15Newcastle United F.C.£22,429,000

16Burnley F.C.£21,632,000

17Aston Villa F.C.£17,377,000

18West Bromwich Albion F.C.£12,012,000

19Sheffield United F.C.£3,120,000

20Leeds United F.C.£2,652,000

 

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/payroll/

[TheHowieLama]

Par

[Captain Turdseye]

This has the potential to match the net spend arguments of years gone by. 

[Barrington Womble]

40 minutes ago, Red74 said:

After finding it incredible that Man City would have a lower wage bill than us and seeing various discussions that our wages cant be that high, I thought while I had nothing better to do for 10 minutes, Id have a look at what the estimates say.

 

GK

 

Allison - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Adrian - £30k pwk - £1.56m

Karius - £40k pwk - £2.08m

 

Def

 

VVD - £180k pwk - £9.36m

Matip - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Gomez - £35k pwk - £1.82m

Trent - £50k pwk - £2.6m

Robbo £60k pwk - £3.12m

Tsimikas - £50k pwk -£2.6m

Neco - £15k pwk - £780k

 

Mids

 

Hendo - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Fab - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Naby - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Milner - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Ox - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Gini - £70k pwk - £3.64m

Curtis - £20k pwk - £1.56m

 

Fwds

 

Mo - £200k pwk - £10,4m

RF - £180K pwk - £9.36M

SM - £150K pwk - £7.8m

Shaq - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Divock - £45k pwk - £2.34m

Minamino - £60k pwk - £3.12m

Brewster - £30k pwk - £1.56m

 

Total - £106.5m pa

 

I reckon Jurgen must be on £10m and the coaching staff prob £3m between them so at a rough guess £120m pa for the 1st team squad.

 

The Echo said the players pool for winning the league was £4m and the high profile players who signed recent upgraded contracts would have pocketed between £500 - £750k bonus which would have been covered by the sponsorship bonus payouts.

 

Now considering were paying £274m in wages before pension and NI, theres a lot of people earning some serious wedge from us.

 

Ill open this up to the floor 

As per the other thread, the only thing that makes any sense to me if something like agent fees or player amortisation is included in that 276m. Our player amortisation was £111m on the last accounts. Up by 34m on the previous year. Interestingly in the same period wages rose by £46m. 

 

In that period, we extended the contracts of Salah, Firmino, Harry Wilson, Robertson and TAA (this was listed in the accounts) - would it seem more likely that these players shared a wage increase of £12m per year or £46m per year? If your money is on the former, it seems pretty likely to me we arrive at the 276m wage bill to include player amortisation. 

 

I actually don't think it's a bad way to calculate it for accounts, but for ffp purposes, I don't think that's how you do it - and I certainly don't think that's how the likes of city are declaring their wage bill. 

[dockers_strike]

47 minutes ago, Red74 said:

After finding it incredible that Man City would have a lower wage bill than us and seeing various discussions that our wages cant be that high, I thought while I had nothing better to do for 10 minutes, Id have a look at what the estimates say.

 

GK

 

Allison - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Adrian - £30k pwk - £1.56m

Karius - £40k pwk - £2.08m

 

Def

 

VVD - £180k pwk - £9.36m

Matip - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Gomez - £35k pwk - £1.82m

Trent - £50k pwk - £2.6m

Robbo £60k pwk - £3.12m

Tsimikas - £50k pwk -£2.6m

Neco - £15k pwk - £780k

 

Mids

 

Hendo - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Fab - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Naby - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Milner - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Ox - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Gini - £70k pwk - £3.64m

Curtis - £20k pwk - £1.56m

 

Fwds

 

Mo - £200k pwk - £10,4m

RF - £180K pwk - £9.36M

SM - £150K pwk - £7.8m

Shaq - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Divock - £45k pwk - £2.34m

Minamino - £60k pwk - £3.12m

Brewster - £30k pwk - £1.56m

 

Total - £106.5m pa

 

I reckon Jurgen must be on £10m and the coaching staff prob £3m between them so at a rough guess £120m pa for the 1st team squad.

 

The Echo said the players pool for winning the league was £4m and the high profile players who signed recent upgraded contracts would have pocketed between £500 - £750k bonus which would have been covered by the sponsorship bonus payouts.

 

Now considering were paying £274m in wages before pension and NI, theres a lot of people earning some serious wedge from us.

 

Ill open this up to the floor 

If you truely believe city have a lower wage bill than us, knock yourself out.

 

 

[Harry Squatter]

The stewards are on about 12 quid an hour if this helps.

[Horus]

Just now, Doctor Troy said:

The stewards are on about 12 quid an hour if this helps.

Should have furloughed the thieving bastards when we had the chance. 

[dave u]

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

If you truely believe city have a lower wage bill than us, knock yourself out.

 

 

 

I don't think anyone believes that. The point is that until recently that was how it was being reported based on club accounts.

 

City are paying their players a lot more than we are but most of it won't go through the books as it'll no doubt be done via "image rights" or "private sponsorship" deals paid for by Abu Dhabi.

 

Like how they were paying Mancini £2m a year, but he was getting £10m a year as a special 'advisor' to the Sheikh's club back home.

[Lario]

If I was Sadio, I'd be looking for a payrise.

 

As obnoxious as £150k a week isn't enough sounds.

[dockers_strike]

12 minutes ago, dave u said:

 

I don't think anyone believes that. The point is that until recently that was how it was being reported based on club accounts.

 

City are paying their players a lot more than we are but most of it won't go through the books as it'll no doubt be done via "image rights" or "private sponsorship" deals paid for by Abu Dhabi.

 

Like how they were paying Mancini £2m a year, but he was getting £10m a year as a special 'advisor' to the Sheikh's club back home.

Totally agree Dave but Id say some do believe our wage bill is higher than theirs and ignore the 'methods' you mention.

[Crazy Dave]

Keita on 50k more a week than Gini? Poor that. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

We should be one of the top paying clubs, we are one of the top clubs. 

[aws]

I think some  of those figures look a bit light e.g. Hendo, Mane and the younger players and I suspect bonuses, pensions, NI etc will add quite a bit. Then you've got all the players on loan where we still pick up part of the bill, the academy players and staff, office staff, stewards, directors etc. But I still struggle to get much higher than £200m.

 

i didn't think amortisation is included but maybe it is these days. 

[Red74]

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

If you truely believe city have a lower wage bill than us, knock yourself out.

 

I didn’t believe it 

[dockers_strike]

27 minutes ago, Red74 said:

2 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

If you truely believe city have a lower wage bill than us, knock yourself out.

 

I didn’t believe it 

Fair enough.

 

As for what others believe, Ive no doubt the club's accountants use perfectly good accounting practices regarding profit and minimise losses etc. Until someone uncovers clear accounting malpractice, I think the idea money's being diverted to the red sox, yacht buying and the rest is dubious to say the least.

 

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Red74 said:

After finding it incredible that Man City would have a lower wage bill than us and seeing various discussions that our wages cant be that high, I thought while I had nothing better to do for 10 minutes, Id have a look at what the estimates say.

 

GK

 

Allison - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Adrian - £30k pwk - £1.56m

Karius - £40k pwk - £2.08m

 

Def

 

VVD - £180k pwk - £9.36m

Matip - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Gomez - £35k pwk - £1.82m

Trent - £50k pwk - £2.6m

Robbo £60k pwk - £3.12m

Tsimikas - £50k pwk -£2.6m

Neco - £15k pwk - £780k

 

Mids

 

Hendo - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Fab - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Naby - £120k pwk - £6.24m

Milner - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Ox - £90k pwk - £4.68m

Gini - £70k pwk - £3.64m

Curtis - £20k pwk - £1.56m

 

Fwds

 

Mo - £200k pwk - £10,4m

RF - £180K pwk - £9.36M

SM - £150K pwk - £7.8m

Shaq - £100k pwk - £5.2m

Divock - £45k pwk - £2.34m

Minamino - £60k pwk - £3.12m

Brewster - £30k pwk - £1.56m

 

Total - £106.5m pa

 

I reckon Jurgen must be on £10m and the coaching staff prob £3m between them so at a rough guess £120m pa for the 1st team squad.

 

The Echo said the players pool for winning the league was £4m and the high profile players who signed recent upgraded contracts would have pocketed between £500 - £750k bonus which would have been covered by the sponsorship bonus payouts.

 

Now considering were paying £274m in wages before pension and NI, theres a lot of people earning some serious wedge from us.

 

Ill open this up to the floor 

Shitness of modern football thread has been retitled?

[Salou]

People that believe weekly wage lists from internet websites and thinking its reliable are really, really, REALLY stupid. 

[Anubis]

Buy Thiago you cunts.

 

That is all.

[Horus]

[m0e]

Shaqiri makes the same as Alisson, Hendo, and Fabinho.

 

Shaqiri also makes more than our regular back 4, VVD aside.

 

Shaqiri also makes more than Gini, Milly, and Ox 

 

No wonder we can't sell the flat, spare tire.

[Salou]

Once again, people that believe wages for players (even if it is a guess at a base wage) posted on some random website are just very silly. 

[Reckoner]

On 03/09/2020 at 17:51, Horus said:

Puts a lump in my throat, that 

[deiseach]

Why are you asking here when the answer - so many, many answers! - are on GOT?

[DalyanPete]

47 minutes ago, deiseach said:

Why are you asking here when the answer - so many, many answers! - are on GOT?

So very true