Other football - 2020/21

[TheHowieLama]

Big game tonight you hosers!

[DaveT]

3 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

Manchester City are in line to raise around £100 million through transfer deals this summer before the potential sale of any senior players.

The Premier League champions are about to take their close season transfer income past the £50m mark with academy graduate Lukas Nmecha closing in on an £11.2m move to Wolfsburg.

City have already sold Jack Harrison and Angelino to Leeds United and RB Leipzig for £13m and £16m respectively this summer and netted £11.2m in sell-on fees and solidarity payments from their former winger Jadon Sancho’s £72.9m move to rivals Manchester United from Borussia Dortmund.

But City stand to double that £50m figure before the transfer window closes at the end of next month even if no one was to depart from Pep Guardiola’s established first-team squad.

Midfielders Yangel Herrera, Ivan Ilic and Morgan Rodgers and defender Pedro Porro could all be sold this summer in deals that could fetch an additional £50m. Former England Under-20 winger Patrick Roberts, 24, may also depart.

Herrera, a Venezuela international who joined City from Atletico Venezuela in 2017, has enjoyed a successful past two seasons on loan at Granada and is attracting interest from Spain as well as Crystal Palace, Southampton and West Ham United in the Premier League.

The 23 year-old - who is valued at up to £20m - previously spent a season on loan at New York City FC, one of Manchester City’s many sister clubs in the City Football Group stable.

Midfielders Yangel Herrera (right) is valued at around £20m Credit: AP

Porro, a 21-year-old right back who has been capped at senior level by Spain and is valued at £15m, was signed in 2019 from Girona, the Spanish club who are now part of the CFG empire. Porro impressed on loan at Sporting Lisbon last season and could yet move there permanently.

Ilic has attracted interest from Italy and could also fetch £15m after the 20-year-old Serbia defensive midfielder proved a hit on loan at Hellas Verona in Serie A last season. He previously spent a season on loan at NAC Breda, with whom City struck a working partnership in 2016.

City bought Rogers from West Bromwich Albion for around £7m in 2019 and the 18-year-old midfielder could depart for at least £10m this summer.

The situation provides further vindication of City’s business model of acquiring emerging talents from across the globe and allowing them to gain experience within the CFG pool, other clubs they have partnered with or elsewhere before selling them for bigger fees down the line.

Despite the huge cash windfall City expect to generate through such deals this summer, it is expected the champions will still need to offload a senior player or two if they are to stand a realistic chance of landing both Harry Kane and Jack Grealish, who combined could cost in excess of £200m.

Man City manager Pep Guardiola is a big fan of Jack Grealish (right) Credit: PA

In addition to financing the large fees, City would also have to find space on their wage bill - which had already jumped 11 per cent to £351m for the 2019/20 season - to accommodate big earners such as Kane and Grealish.

Midfielder Bernardo and defenders Aymeric Laporte and Benjamin Mendy are among a number of high-profile City players who have been linked with potential moves away. But those clubs who could afford hefty fees and wages for such players are likely to be few and far between this summer given the way the coronavirus pandemic has hit income streams across football.

England forward Raheem Sterling - who has entered the final two years of his contract - is due to be offered a new deal and Riyad Mahrez, who also has two years to run on his contract, wants to stay.

“What if I want to go higher? I do not see what is higher [than City],” the Algeria winger, 30, said this week. “I really love England and English football is wonderful. I don’t want to leave. I still have goals to pursue here.”

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/07/16/manchester-city-looking-bank-100m-transfer-deals-even-selling/

This is the Chelsea model, and taking it even further. Creating a revenue stream by recruiting the cream of global talent, letting other clubs, or their own satellite clubs do the heavy lifting in terms of development and then selling these kids at a significant profit. Except Chelsea got caught for 29, I think it was, transgressions of the FIFA rules on recruitment of youngsters and duly incurred a transfer ban. Would it surprise anyone if City's activities in this area were not completely above board? 

Nobody in the media seems to have a problem with this kind of business model where certain clubs sweep up a lot of the young talent, with minimal intention or likelihood of them ever playing in the first team, farm them out to satellites or 'partner'clubs and then make a profit from them to help them keep to FFP rules. It kind of undermines the traditional system of smaller clubs surviving by developing their local talent and selling to bigger clubs. Now, the smaller clubs have to rely on the largesse of bigger clubs in the hope of getting their young talent on loan. Feels unhealthy to me. I know we do it to an extent, but it's near on an industrial scale with Chelsea and City.

 

[dockers_strike]

1 minute ago, DaveT said:

This is the Chelsea model, and taking it even further. Creating a revenue stream by recruiting the cream of global talent, letting other clubs, or their own satellite clubs do the heavy lifting in terms of development and then selling these kids at a significant profit. Except Chelsea got caught for 29, I think it was, transgressions of the FIFA rules on recruitment of youngsters and duly incurred a transfer ban. Would it surprise anyone if City's activities in this area were not completely above board? 

Nobody in the media seems to have a problem with this kind of business model where certain clubs sweep up a lot of the young talent, with minimal intention or likelihood of them ever playing in the first team, farm them out to satellites or 'partner'clubs and then make a profit from them to help them keep to FFP rules. It kind of undermines the traditional system of smaller clubs surviving by developing their local talent and selling to bigger clubs. Now, the smaller clubs have to rely on the largesse of bigger clubs in the hope of getting their young talent on loan. Feels unhealthy to me. I know we do it to an extent, but it's near on an industrial scale with Chelsea and City.

 

This. The IFAB \ FIFA should either scrap the 'loan' scheme in its current format or drastically reshape it. Legitimately, how can a club or rather, financially doped clubs be allowed to hoover up these young lads, give them a shitload of money for their age, promise them a future then send them out on loan to some 'feeder' club in the hope they mature or increase in value?

 

Yes, we have players out on loan, probably half what each of chelsea and city have. Loans should be emergencies only or a max 5 U23s only. PL clubs like moral high horse fc shouldnt be allowed to pad out their squad with loanees either. Fucking richest league in the world and some of them use it to fill out their squad, fuck off.

[No2]

2 hours ago, DaveT said:

This is the Chelsea model, and taking it even further. Creating a revenue stream by recruiting the cream of global talent, letting other clubs, or their own satellite clubs do the heavy lifting in terms of development and then selling these kids at a significant profit. Except Chelsea got caught for 29, I think it was, transgressions of the FIFA rules on recruitment of youngsters and duly incurred a transfer ban. Would it surprise anyone if City's activities in this area were not completely above board? 

Nobody in the media seems to have a problem with this kind of business model where certain clubs sweep up a lot of the young talent, with minimal intention or likelihood of them ever playing in the first team, farm them out to satellites or 'partner'clubs and then make a profit from them to help them keep to FFP rules. It kind of undermines the traditional system of smaller clubs surviving by developing their local talent and selling to bigger clubs. Now, the smaller clubs have to rely on the largesse of bigger clubs in the hope of getting their young talent on loan. Feels unhealthy to me. I know we do it to an extent, but it's near on an industrial scale with Chelsea and City.

 

The other thing is this is pure profit in the eyes of FFP as Stadia and young development costs are ignored. 

[Scott_M]

What. A. Wanker.

 

[Elite]

7 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

What. A. Wanker.

 

Looks like something those prostitutes in Palma Nova do to kids in Palma Nova through the day when they are having a break from shagging British lads at night in Magaluf.

[Grinch]

About time a footballer came out of the closet.

[Anubis]

1 hour ago, Scott_M said:

What. A. Wanker.

 

Bad wool.

[Scott_M]

12 hours ago, Elite said:

Looks like something those prostitutes in Palma Nova do to kids in Palma Nova through the day when they are having a break from shagging British lads at night in Magaluf.

Neymar needs a break from shagging his sister.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I bet that haircut cost a squid or two.

[dockers_strike]

Giroud joins Milan for a reported million quid. Always had a respect for Giroud. The twat always seemed to score against us and knew where the goal was.

[Carvalho Diablo]

Anybody watching the FA Disability Cup on BT 1?

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

1 hour ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I bet that haircut cost a squid or two.

I sea what you did there

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

I sea what you did there

He put him in his plaice 

[Harry Squatter]

[Trumo]

1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

 

You could say they've chosen to Abdo Kate responsibility there.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

@lifetime fan You told me your name was Colin? 

[lifetime fan]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

@lifetime fan You told me your name was Colin? 

Couldn’t have been me - I wasn’t going to wash them! 

[John102]

'They're not that sort of lad'

[Josef Svejk]

26 minutes ago, John102 said:

'They're not that sort of lad'

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest cast arrives in the West End... 

[Pete]

4 hours ago, Josef Svejk said:

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest cast arrives in the West End... 

about 5 working brain cells between the lot of them. 

[Bjornebye]

19 hours ago, lifetime fan said:

Couldn’t have been me - I wasn’t going to wash them! 

Hahahaha

[Anubis]

#BruceOut trending on Twitter because Newcastle lost a pre-season friendly to York…

[Creator Supreme]

On 16/07/2021 at 15:40, TheHowieLama said:

Big game tonight you hosers!

Who you calling hosers? You big hoser!

[Bjornebye]

Torino 10 nil up against some farmers or some shit. Whats the point?