Other football - 2020/21

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Neither are big clubs, both cheat and don’t care, their achievements mean fuck all.

Hope this helps those who are arsed, never watched one second.

[an tha]

7 minutes ago, torahboy said:

Listening to that Nottingham twat and that Jenas retard practically singing 'Rule Brittania' made me kill the sound on that victory/defeat for the pimps of natural resources. Why aren't these mental mediocrities as supportive of us when we are representing 'our' country?

 

Do you think PSG players could be trusted to shave themselves without mutilating their faces?

Personally i don't want them supporting us 

 

They and their little Ingerlund mindset can fuck right off.

[Jockey]

7 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Neither are big clubs, both cheat and don’t care, their achievements mean fuck all.

Hope this helps those who are arsed, never watched one second.

Yep. Perfectly summed up. 

[Harry Squatter]

45 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

I'm guessing no 

Fucking snide cunts passing it off as the "brilliance of Messi" instead of celebrating a goal against us and being made up we were virtually out. Still annoys me but then seeing the twats have the smile wiped off their faces a week later was fucking brilliant.

[an tha]

19 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Just don’t think there are any lows that this season can’t sink to. Honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see Everton get 4th

Oil cheats winning league and european cup double.

 

Us putting up worst title defence since Buster Douglas.

 

Manc rats winning uefa cup

 

Bitters 4th

 

Ingerlund winning this shite in summer.

 

Fucking hell - kill me now.

[KevieG]

Football is on its knees. 

 

Corrupt oil states squeezing the life out of the other clubs, cheerled by dopey cunts on BT and sky. Depressing

[Leyton388]

Worst season in living memory and now being overtaken by the oil clubs. I'm just glad we managed to win the league and CL the past few seasons. Covid has effected pretty much all clubs apart from these oil cunts. 

 

 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

27 minutes ago, Jockey said:

Sometimes shit needs to be destroyed. After last week - it is obvious that nothing is going to change. City need to win everything for a few years. Two or 3 years of quadruples and trebles and then Haaland, and anyone else remotely good being signed. 

 

It is why our win was so special. Not just the 30 year wait, but because it was against them! With all they have. 

Our achievement the two previous seasons can not be overstated. Two consecitive seasons with a points tally like that, and beating those cheats in the second one, is an unreal achievement and probably took more out of the team mentally and physically than we realized. 

 

[Red Shift]

20 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

Our achievement the two previous seasons can not be overstated. Two consecitive seasons with a points tally like that, and beating those cheats in the second one, is an unreal achievement and probably took more out of the team mentally and physically than we realized. 

 

And that gift to us, the fans, we can’t put a price on. This season? I’m cutting the squad and club some slack. City did nothing last year apart from the league cup, and why? Key injuries.

[Mook]

41 minutes ago, an tha said:

Oil cheats winning league and european cup double.

 

Us putting up worst title defence since Buster Douglas.

 

Manc rats winning uefa cup

 

Bitters 4th

 

Ingerlund winning this shite in summer.

 

Fucking hell - kill me now.

England won't win fuck all.

 

The rest are a worry right enough.

[dockers_strike]

39 minutes ago, KevieG said:

Football is on its knees. 

 

Corrupt oil states squeezing the life out of the other clubs, cheerled by dopey cunts on BT and sky. Depressing

Speaking of which.....

 

BT is in talks with Amazon, Disney and others to offload a stake in its television arm, The Telegraph can reveal, as the pandemic casts doubt over the future of sport.

The telecoms operator has appointed the investment bank Lazard to explore a partial sale of BT Sport as it focuses on upgrading Britain’s broadband network.

It is understood that BT is in talks with potential partners including Amazon, Disney and Dazn, an international sports streaming venture funded by Sir Leonard Blavatnik, the Ukraine-born billionaire.

A British broadcaster is also involved in the discussions and potentially leading the bidding, City sources said.

BT has a longstanding partnership with ITV, although has also worked with Channel 4 and the BBC. Any traditional broadcaster could seek to show more top-flight football on terrestrial television.

The same source said Dazn, which recently agreed a sports broadcasting partnership with BT’s Italian equivalent, was “most keen”.

The discussions pit a traditional broadcaster against Dazn, a streaming upstart, and two global media giants. Potential private equity partners including CVC, a major investor in rugby, and Silverlake, a shareholder in Manchester City are understood to have backed away from talks.

A source said: "The world of sport has been rocked by coronavirus. It's no surprise that BT is rethinking how best to keep growing the business."

Multiple sources said the uncertainties of sports rights auctions and the pandemic made it impossible to say whether a transaction will be agreed. The talks are underway with no strict timetable against a backdrop of turmoil in sports rights as buyers and sellers struggle to predict the appetite for live sport after the pandemic.

BT, under chief executive Philip Jansen, has cut its payout to shareholders to pump billions of pounds into replacing tens of millions of copper telephone wires with faster and more reliable fibre-optic broadband lines.

The Premier League is seeking approval to roll over its current £4.7bn domestic television deal with Sky, BT and Amazon for a further three years, as The Telegraph revealed last weekend.

It is understood the plans have been approved by the Department for Culture, the Department for Business and the Treasury and are now awaiting a final green light from the Prime Minister.

One deal insider said: “Sports broadcasting is a horrible business. Every three years you don’t know if you will retain your rights in an auction or whether you will lose the lot.”

BT is seeking a new investor in BT Sport less than a decade after it launched an assault on sports broadcasting. In 2012 it ambushed Sky by seizing a portion of Premier League television rights.

BT escalated its rivalry the following year by acquiring exclusive rights to the Champions League for almost £900m, laying the ground for a series of bidding wars with Sky.

Insiders said BT is seeking a partner in sports broadcasting after an internal review found sport was not the best use of its own capital.

BT Sport began as a free service to entice broadband subscribers and made losses in the hundreds of millions of pounds a year. However, following a series of steep price rises it is now profitable, according to BT sources.

The future of BT Sport will depend on whether a deal can be agreed and the strategy of the new partner. According to deal insiders, BT is offering the BT Sport brand, its rights agreements and its state-of-the-art studios in east London to any potential joint venture.

Sports industry sources said BT is keen to retain a stake having invested billions of pounds in sport over recent years with questionable returns. With the value of sports rights in flux, “there are people with better motivation to pay for rights”, a source said.

The person added: “For BT there may still be upside, but there are higher priorities.”

All parties declined to comment.

Analysis: why BT is stepping back from sport

Jake Humphrey was one of the first presenters on BT Sport  Credit: Paul Terry/Sportimage/PA Images 

Jake Humphrey was showing off a little. Flanked by a reporter and a camera operator, the presenter gave a walking tour of Europe's largest television studio at London's Olympic Park. 

The vast broadcasting centre spread across a single floor was home to a football studio, a rugby studio and a half-sized sports pitch for real-time analysis. 

It was the new home of BT Sport, the three channels launched by the broadband and mobile operator BT as it began to claw back the thousands of broadband customers fleeing to rivals. That was nearly a decade ago. Today the landscape is markedly different. 

After spending billions of pounds to disrupt Sky's dominance, BT has begun beating a retreat for live sport and stands poles apart from its position nine years ago. 

Rivals were stripping the telecoms operator of about a million customers a year - an assault on market share that risked dragging it into terminal decline.

 

Taking on Murdoch

Sky was the problem. The pay TV broadcaster led by chief executive James Murdoch had bulldozed into the broadband market in 2005 through a £211m takeover of Easynet.

By creating a "triple-play" service - where customers could buy satellite TV, broadband and a telephone line in one place - Murdoch had launched a smash and grab on BT that contributed to the loss of around a third of its consumer customers. 

Restoring BT's might fell to Gavin Patterson, the former Procter & Gamble executive who joined the telecoms firm as the consumer boss in 2004 before rising to chief executive nine years later. Patterson built on a counter-offensive cooked up with his predecessor Ian Livingtone. 

With huge spending power at his disposal, BT launched a £1.5bn charge into sports TV: launching the Olympic Park studio, recruiting presenters Jake Humphrey and Clare Balding, while seizing 39 live Premier League matches over three seasons.

The three new BT Sport channels were offered to broadband customers free of charge.  

BT also undercut Sky's TV package for pubs and clubs by 80pc, while the cost of BT Infinity - its high-speed broadband product - was reduced to £15 a month. 

It shaved 6pc off Sky's share price, before Patterson increased the bombardment.

In November 2013, BT outbid Sky and ITV with a £900m cheque for exclusive rights to Champions League and Europa League football.

BT Sport's high-profile commentators have included Jermaine Jenas and Peter Crouch (right and furthest right)  Credit: Nick Potts /PA

"It was a surprise that Sky didn't play dirty and squeeze us out of everything," a source close to BT's rights negotiations said. "They stepped aside and allowed us to get Premiership Rugby. The big one was the Champions League because they were told we were just going for the Europa League.

"We gave false stories to people we knew would leak them to Sky. It was a pivotal moment. When BT got the rights and announced them the next day on Saturday, Sky were left flat-footed. On Monday morning, Sky's share price went down by double digits. They just weren't prepared for this."

In the year that followed, BT signed up 4m subscribers to BT Sport - viewers it could transform into paying broadband customers.  

Sky - bound by the regulator to carry the BT Sport channel - was left feeling sore. "Sport isn’t a marketing gimmick to promote another product," said Stephen van Rooyen, Sky's then boss of sales and marketing.

For the Premier League, BT and Sky's rivalry played straight into the hands of its chief executive Richard Scudamore. 

BT's incursion increased the value of domestic rights by 71pc to a record £3bn over three seasons when sold in 2012. 

The rise was the start of a remarkable run for Scudamore, who was able to increase the value by a further 70pc to £5.1bn in 2017 as BT and Sky locked horns. It would not last. 

BT increased the cost of BT Sport to £3.50 by August 2017 amid pressure from investors to explain why it was spending so much on sports rights when the UK's full-fibre broadband infrastructure was lagging behind most of Europe. 

By December, BT had reached a peace deal with Sky to take the heat out TV auction process. 

The two broadcasters struck a channel sharing deal to sell their TV packages on each other's platforms.

Without such rivalry at play, the Premier League auction price fell 8pc to about £4.7bn for the three seasons from 2019-20.

It was an outcome that underscores the shifting priorities already taking place before Patterson made way for Philip Jansen two years ago. 

A sports TV channel demanding huge cash injections to survive has struggled to justify its place when Jansen has suspended the dividend and promised £12bn to help upgrade 85pc of the nation to gigabit speed broadband by 2025. 

Nearly a decade after exploding into sports TV, BT is now looking to offload a stake in BT sport and forge a strategy with a new partner after an internal review found its capital could be better spent elsewhere. 

Marc Allera, BT's consumer chief executive, is understood to be the architect of the plan to bring a new investor into BT Sport. With BT concentrating on full-fibre, it has concluded that a partner would be better placed to invest in sports TV rights. 

Streaming giants could step in

A deal with Amazon would intensify Amazon Prime Video's challenge to Sky after picking up 20 matches a season at the last Premier League TV rights auction.

Meanwhile, Disney could add another dimension to its fast-rising streaming service Disney+ as it bears down on Netflix.

The platform is believed to have attracted more than 4m UK subscribers since launching in March last year and sports rights could turbo charge that growth.  

DAZN also made clear that it was exploring a Premier League auction bid this year. Its joint chief executive James Rushton said earlier this month that “once the tender comes out, we’ll review it”. 

Those comments came before The Telegraph revealed the Premier League was in talks to scrap its television rights auction in favour of rolling over existing deals with Sky, BT and Amazon. 

Still, the loss-making platform backed by billionaire Sir Leonard Balvatnik's Access Industries has shown an appetite for teaming up with telecoms giants to get what it wants.

In March, Dazn landed the live TV rights to Italy's top-flight football league Serie A for three seasons from 2021-22. 

The country's biggest broadband provider, Telecom Italia, backed the swoop, in a move that will distribute matches through its on-demand service TIMvision. 

After being battered by the pandemic, the Premier League is desperate for a return to growth for domestic TV rights. 

This year it will not be so lucky. But with streaming services muscling in, competitive tension capable of driving up rights value could be close at hand. 

BT was once the bull charging into live sports. Now, it is hoping to team up with a new challenger who may foot the huge bill when going toe-to-toe with Sky. 

 

Hack free from behind the torygraph paywall.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/04/28/bt-sport-sale-broadband-push/

 

[Jockey]

21 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

Our achievement the two previous seasons can not be overstated. Two consecitive seasons with a points tally like that, and beating those cheats in the second one, is an unreal achievement and probably took more out of the team mentally and physically than we realized. 

 

It was. When you remove us from the equation City will have finished 15 points or more ahead of everyone else for 4 years (I think they'll finish 15 ahead this season). We have been immense and VVD and Hendo missing for so much has been a huge miss. 

[Jockey]

42 minutes ago, an tha said:

Oil cheats winning league and european cup double.

 

Us putting up worst title defence since Buster Douglas.

 

Manc rats winning uefa cup

 

Bitters 4th

 

Ingerlund winning this shite in summer.

 

Fucking hell - kill me now.

Jesus- you love a bit of drama don't you? United did the treble - I saw the Ev win the league. It can get a lot fucking worse. 

[KMD7]

2 minutes ago, Jockey said:

It was. When you remove us from the equation City will have finished 15 points or more ahead of everyone else for 4 years (I think they'll finish 15 ahead this season). We have been immense and VVD and Hendo missing for so much has been a huge miss. 

We were one shambolic refereeing performance that night against city from probably winning the league the year before we did. 

[Jockey]

38 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

Worst season in living memory and now being overtaken by the oil clubs. I'm just glad we managed to win the league and CL the past few seasons. Covid has effected pretty much all clubs apart from these oil cunts. 

 

 

Are you 10? Do you remember Roy Hodgson? Far worse seasons - I can give you 10 right now. To be honest I can give you 28. 

[Chocoholic]

5 minutes ago, Mook said:

England won't win fuck all.

 

The rest are a worry right enough.

With respect... England will win fuck all

[Jockey]

5 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

We were one shambolic refereeing performance that night against city from probably winning the league the year before we did. 

11mm - that is it. 11mm and a slip from City losing 2 of their's and being on 21. But we are lucky!

After all the bad luck - if you had offered me last season, and this season was the price I would have taken it every day of the week.

[torahboy]

1 hour ago, an tha said:

Personally i don't want them supporting us 

 

They and their little Ingerlund mindset can fuck right off.

My feelings too, but I hate the disrespect shown towards us. Septic Isle fuckpigs the lot of them.

[Josef Svejk]

1 hour ago, torahboy said:

Listening to that Nottingham twat and that Jenas retard practically singing 'Rule Brittania' made me kill the sound on that victory/defeat for the pimps of natural resources. Why aren't these mental mediocrities as supportive of us when we are representing 'our' country?

 

Do you think PSG players could be trusted to shave themselves without mutilating their faces?

McManaman, Hoddle, and Jenas main co-comms on BT. Three fucking retards and/or cunts. 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

To be fair, that was high class football at times, a mile away from our stuff. 

That said, two shocking goals from City were the difference.  

 

I don't understand why there is talk of PL being docked points but not being thrown out of the CL? THAT'S the competition they walked out of.  

 

There will come a point when all this looks ridiculous, when you'll be able to count on one hand the trophies that City didn't win in a decade.  

 

Until then, we need to stop shooting ourselves in the dick with these injuries and shit signings.  

[Pete]

Fuck Citeh and any trophy they 'win'. Two bit no mark club that won the lottery. Let them win everything for the next five years then see how the other 14 clubs feel when there's no longer any chance of a league or FA Cup win (you know magic of the cup etc. 

People can bang on about the ESL bringing on the death of football. Sorry that happened when the Sheik rocked up at a middling club with a free stadium in the middle of nowheresville, Manchester.  

 

[Stickman]

Just when you thought Lineker couldn't be more of a prick

 

 

[Peter Cormack]

Who is the  Nottingham twat?

[DaveT]

11 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Just when you thought Lineker couldn't be more of a prick

 

 

What a load of crap. United at Juventus in 99, coming back from 0-2 to win (without Keane and Scholes?) 3-2, us winning 2-1 at Barca under Rafa.... in each instance against 11 men. That’s two of the top of my head. Prick 

[Pete]

14 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Just when you thought Lineker couldn't be more of a prick

 

 

Citeh saved English football. What more do you expect?