Other football - 2020/21

[No2]

15 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

City have never had a Balon d'Or winner - not sure they have ever had a player in the top 5.

Their OP is stock pile the best of the rest. They won't have the worlds most expensive defender but they will have the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th most expensive.  And this is proof they didn't buy the league.

[Special K]

13 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Madrid are royalty compared to City.

But apart from that, from a 'best players in the world' point of view, Man City don't have those calibre of players for the modern day.

 

Zidane - De Bruyne?  Probably closest, but he's miles off.  

Raul - Messi? Kane?

Ronaldo - Salah? Mbappe? 

Beckham - Kroos?

Figo - Sterling?  Again, miles off. 

 

City haven't done the absurd collection of player thing.  Expensive, yes, but not close to the galactico era.  

 

 

I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out that there's no difference between Madrid spending zillions and City. Quality of the players may differ but the concept of buying the league is the same

[No2]

16 minutes ago, Special K said:

I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out that there's no difference between Madrid spending zillions and City. Quality of the players may differ but the concept of buying the league is the same

Its not the same. The difference between the 2 is the consequences. They were huge money signings but if they didn't work the impact would've been huge. We're seeing it now with Real and Barcelona, they're shit purchases is biting them on the hole.

 

With City they just buy Mangala, doesn't work, buy Otemendi, doesn't work buy Stones, doesn't work buy Laporte, gets injured buy Ake and Dias. They done the same thing at the other end of the pitch with Robinho, Tevez, Dzecko, Balotelli, Aguero, Boni, Santa Cruz, Adebayor, Negredo, Jovatic, Nolito, Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Silva and Jesus. They then spin it as Augero is the best 30m ever spent when the reality he's just the part of a billion quid they threw at the wall that actually stuck.

[Trumo]

There is a significant difference between the way Real Madrid and City went about spending.

 

When Florentino Perez became president in 2000, the Spanish club made a big fuss about signing big-name players for big fees with massive wages. They were even open about tapping players up. They got Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo this way in successive years. They tapped up Ronaldinho and Beckham before deciding on the latter who was at the time more marketable. They signed Owen after regular discussions with his agent, knowing that we'd have to let him go for a knock-down price a year before his contract expired and he could walk for free. When Perez returned as Real Madrid president again in 2009, he again got the tapping-up machine going, signing the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema and Xabi in one fell swoop for huge fees and contracts. They've still spent significant amounts in the last decade (Modric, Rodrygo, Vinicius, Mendy, Jovic and Militao all cost a bomb, and the likes of Isco, Kroos and Courtois weren't exactly cheap either) but the headline signings have been more sporadic. Only really Bale, Rodriguez and Hazard.

 

In City's case, it's curious they they haven't really gone above £60m in transfer fees, and they are never listed at the very top end when it comes to how much they pay their players and coaches. They don't advertise that they're in the market for big-name signings. Somehow, agents never kick off about City messing them about or not offering enough. Players and coaches never kick off about wanting bumper new contracts. The media never puts City's name to rumours about players joining them for ridiculous transfer fees and wages. The Messi case was probably the only contrary example, and even there the talk was about a deal at City Football Group (or Abu Dhabi regime) level. Everybody is kept sweet. There are financial incentives at play with City that are not being brought out into the open, but would paint a very different picture as to why they are operating on a completely different level to the rest of us.

[Red_or_Dead]

50 minutes ago, Trumo said:

 

In City's case, it's curious they they haven't really gone above £60m in transfer fees, and they are never listed at the very top end when it comes to how much they pay their players and coaches. They don't advertise that they're in the market for big-name signings. Somehow, agents never kick off about City messing them about or not offering enough. Players and coaches never kick off about wanting bumper new contracts. The media never puts City's name to rumours about players joining them for ridiculous transfer fees and wages. The Messi case was probably the only contrary example, and even there the talk was about a deal at City Football Group (or Abu Dhabi regime) level. Everybody is kept sweet. There are financial incentives at play with City that are not being brought out into the open, but would paint a very different picture as to why they are operating on a completely different level to the rest of us.

As they're all getting extra payments off the record.  Wouldn't be suprised if they are paying off journos too.

[dockers_strike]

There's no real difference in Real's spending and city's spending. They're both spending money they havent generated and are subsidised by a nation state. Real's might be to a lesser degree now but it's been there all the same.

 

Real can attract the best footballer's in the world because of their history. But that doesnt mean they havent had favourable 'deals' and backhanders from the Spanish Government to allow them to sign them.

 

city have in the main used very big wages to attract players who wouldnt normally give them a second glance. It's in the public domain Guardiola has spents close to a billion quid in his time at city. Fuck knows how much they have paid in wages in the same time. Add in their dealing under previous managers.

 

[niallers]

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-financial-fair-play-20243561

 

They've been spending with impunity anyway, now they can do it legally the oil cheating cunts 

[dockers_strike]

1 hour ago, niallers said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-financial-fair-play-20243561

 

They've been spending with impunity anyway, now they can do it legally the oil cheating cunts 

That is disappointing news. Fat cunt martin samuel must be dancing around his office at this seeing as he's in the group believing owners should be allowed to inject as much money into 'their' club as they want.

 

Mystically, he believes allowing a free for all will encourage more people with money to burn to invest in a club and 'buy a seat' at the top table instead of earning it.

 

Instead, in my view, it will just encourange more shysters to buy clubs on the promise of spending more than the last owners did and, load the club with unsustainable debt in their effort to buy a seat at a bigger table, whether that be League One, Championship, Premier league or elsewhere.

 

In other news, it seems 14 smaller PL clubs will continue to thwart the changes the 6 larger clubs would like to see implemented. Funny old world.

[Marko121]

30 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

That is disappointing news. Fat cunt martin samuel must be dancing around his office at this seeing as he's in the group believing owners should be allowed to inject as much money into 'their' club as they want.

 

Mystically, he believes allowing a free for all will encourage more people with money to burn to invest in a club and 'buy a seat' at the top table instead of earning it.

 

Instead, in my view, it will just encourange more shysters to buy clubs on the promise of spending more than the last owners did and, load the club with unsustainable debt in their effort to buy a seat at a bigger table, whether that be League One, Championship, Premier league or elsewhere.

 

In other news, it seems 14 smaller PL clubs will continue to thwart the changes the 6 larger clubs would like to see implemented. Funny old world.

That fucking cunt is too fat to dance anywhere. Ugly fat cunt. 
 

This won’t entice FSG to spend, it will be the opposite 

[therevivalist]

Watching our new boy playing against the Netherlands. Doing fine so far. No fancy stuff, keeping things simple. Doing the right things. For me, every game he plays he is improving and he if keeps doing that, there is a very good chance he's staying.

[dockers_strike]

7 minutes ago, therevivalist said:

Watching our new boy playing against the Netherlands. Doing fine so far. No fancy stuff, keeping things simple. Doing the right things. For me, every game he plays he is improving and he if keeps doing that, there is a very good chance he's staying.

Sorry, who we talking about?

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Sorry, who we talking about?

Kabak. 2 nil up against Holland 

[cloggypop]

Dutch trying to be us here. Was 3 nil in the Ataturk now 3-2.

[cloggypop]

4-2

[cloggypop]

Kabak gives away a pen at the end but Depay didn't score it. Finished 4-2.

[sir roger]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Kabak. 2 nil up against Holland 

Fuck me , how good will he be with team mates ?

[Captain Turdseye]

Ladies and gentlemen, the Liverpool Echo. 
 

 

[aws]

Very good opening goal from Harry Wilson and Neco doing well at left wing-back. 

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, Captain Turdseye said:

Ladies and gentlemen, the Liverpool Echo. 
 

 

"I asked for a dog and they bought me a raw chicken"

[Josef Svejk]

7 hours ago, niallers said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-financial-fair-play-20243561

 

They've been spending with impunity anyway, now they can do it legally the oil cheating cunts 

"Respected Italian journalist Tancredi Palmeri..." 

 

Umm... 

[Jairzinho]

1 minute ago, Josef Svejk said:

"Respected Italian journalist Tancredi Palmeri..." 

 

Umm... 

I suppose they were unlikely to write "Twitter bellend".

[Guest]

Kenyan defender has been quoted as saying he's going "to deal with" Salah when they play Egypt. 

 

Can't wait for the inevitable injury. 

[Josef Svejk]

[The Guest]

Curtis coming on for the U21’s and making an absolute show of himself.  Really lazy play in the build up to the Swiss goal.  There’s 3 separate opportunities he has to close the ball or go with the man and he’s just walking around.  Other players having to try to cover him bit doing anything and creates space for the Swiss lad to shoot.  Like a throw back to him first coming into the 1st team.

[Jairzinho]

Greek lad off injured. Been a belting signing him.