Other football - 2020/21

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, Pete said:

Moyes daughter did.. allegedly.

Heh - at the time didn't he gob off about Sterling and how he was similar but with no support from the manager??

 

Closer to Tom Ince than Sterling.

[3 Stacks]

3 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Went to United and couldn't get a sniff. You could say it came too early or figure that he has always been a bit shit.

He's not shit, clearly. Why he's locked himself in at a club like Palace where he's essentially been the only viable attacking option under horrendous managers like Big Sam, Hodgson, Pulis and Pardew, who knows though. That's obviously his and his agent's fault. 

[Gnasher]

I had a tenner bet Man u draw. Fulham draw. Palace draw. £440 quid The other two coming in and Villa get a player sent of they offer me £45 cash out. I think no Palace going to go at it but it was like watching the ghost of Christmas past, A total Hodge botch job, no subs no attack no nothing, hes a fucking joke.

 

Hodgson's causing me pain even now, 440 quid and he couldn't manage a draw against 10 men

 

 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

He's not shit, clearly. Why he's locked himself in at a club like Palace where he's essentially been the only viable attacking option under horrendous managers like Big Sam, Hodgson, Pulis and Pardew, who knows though. That's obviously his and his agent's fault. 

Well, he is.

I am quite sure he could never operate tactically in a top team.

[3 Stacks]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Well, he is.

I am quite sure he could never operate tactically in a top team.

Shit is nonsense in his case and over used to describe players in general. He's been a dangerous attacking threat for a mediocre club for years. Is he a top player? No. But could he play 30 games at a big club as a rotational forward, absolutely. Too late now, though.

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

But could he play 30 games at a big club as a rotational forward, absolutely. Too late now, though.

He scores what - a gola every half dozen games as the main man? Coming off the bench against dross he may be slightly better than Origi. Against top opposition in Europe or the best teams in the league, useless.

Just my opinion.

[Elite]

38 minutes ago, Elite said:

Anyone expecting anything other than a Arsenal defeat later? I've got a feeling Arteta might get a result today, he sure as shit needs one.

Looking at that Arsenal team, I'd like to retract this comment.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Zaha is a very good player. Pretty much every opposition manager sees him as a threat. World class no... but he plays for Palace and Roy Hodgson. Were world class and are lucky enough to see absolute elite players, we judge on a different scale. 

 

I'd still take grealish in a heart beat too.

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

we judge on a different scale. 

 

He scored 4 golas last season in the league playing basically every minute of every game.

[Scott_M]

4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He scores what - a gola every half dozen games as the main man? Coming off the bench against dross he may be slightly better than Origi. Against top opposition in Europe or the best teams in the league, useless.

Just my opinion.

I agree with 3 Stacks. I think Zaha is a good player but cornering himself in at Palace and opting for Ivory Coast over England, both seem curious career choices.

 

I know his parents are from Ivory Coast, but IMO, the decision to play for them sums him up. 
 

I think he’s good enough to play for England. Certainly at least good enough for the squad. I know we’ll all say “England are shit” and “Fuck England” but I think by choosing a country with less competition for places & his failure with the mancs, shows he’s happy taking easier career choices, rather than pushing himself on.

 

I realise I’ve made a sweeping statement there based on minimal information, but something about Zaha rubs me the wrong way. I think he’s talented enough to have pushed his career further but, when he’s handing in transfer requests to sign for Everton, he’s obviously not fully right in the head. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

He scored 4 golas last season in the league playing basically every minute of every game.

In a roy Hodgson team. Do you remember us under Hodgson i wanted to top myself and so did most of the players. He for so long has been the only threat at all for Palace so he is marked and monitored way more than any other players theyve had nearly no other threats. Im not saying he's world class by any measure but people keep talking like thats how he is classed and he isn't.

[TheHowieLama]

Well, that means he is not good enough.

Running around quickly is the least of the equation at the top level

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

In a roy Hodgson team. Do you remember us under Hodgson i wanted to top myself and so did most of the players. He for so long has been the only threat at all for Palace so he is marked and monitored way more than any other players theyve had nearly no other threats. Im not saying he's world class by any measure but people keep talking like thats how he is classed and he isn't.

Ayew was the main man - they had a defender score as many as he did.

[Scott_M]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Well, that means he is not good enough.

Running around quickly is the least of the equation at the top level

Before the summer, I’d have taken Zaha over Jota. 

[bizzle10]

What the fuck has happened to arsenal dont recognise half their team

[Scott_M]

Arsenal are just accepting defeat today so they can focus on their 6 pointers v Brighton on Tuesday and WBA on Saturday.

[Bobby Hundreds]

4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Ayew was the main man - they had a defender score as many as he did.

How much attention is paid to the defender as a goal threat. Thats the problem with Palace hes their biggest strength by far so easy to pinpoint and they have become so reliant its now a weakness. I dont even know why I'm defending him i dont like him.

[Jordy Brouwer]

Operation Show Some Effort is go for Arsenal. 

[TheHowieLama]

6 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

Before the summer, I’d have taken Zaha over Jota. 

That is why you do not work in football.

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

I dont even know why I'm defending him i dont like him.

Agreed.

[Scott_M]

7 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

That is why you do not work in football.

Most likely, but I doubt many on here would feel differently.

 

I think Zaha could be a more than useful player for any of the top club sides & England. 
 

Only he can answer why he’s boxed himself in for Ivory Coast & Palace.

 

I don’t like him either, but I think he’s very good player. 

[Stickman]

Zaha is a bit like LeTissier big fish in a little pond who’ll be the star man in that team and is loved by their fans...I guess there’s nothing wrong with that as at least you’ll be remembered rather than going to a club with expectations and the pressure to win things and disappearing 

[Baltar]

Fuck me, that is one shocking looking line up from Arsenal. Mid table players at best, no wonder they are in the shit.

 

Leno
Bellerín
Holding
Marí
Tierney
Elneny
Xhaka
Saka
Smith Rowe
Martinelli
Lacazette

[Anubis]

It’s a pity Zaha debunked the story about him shagging Moyes’ daughter, because in retrospect that would have turned out to be high point of his entire career.

 

Some world class Neymar Jr rolling from Tani Abraham there.

[Anubis]

Arse miss a gilt edged chance with an air shot.