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    • He was just handed appearances for about 3-5 years for both England and United.  It’s not as incredible an achievement when United can’t get rid of you because they’re paying you too much and every England manager is too scared to drop you.  He was a very good footballer up until about 26 when his abuse of his body caught up with him.  He never carried any team he played in though.  By the time the “golden generation” had retired from internationals he may as well have done because he was that shit.
    • And people still want him here, convinced Klopp will somehow give him a brain and some skill.   He would be a cracking addition if we were running a 4 x 100 metre relay team. 
    • If the playing field is not level then you can bet your life that nice guys will finish last.   Do you think Graeme Souness for example didn't know how to be a snide fucker, do you think King Kenny wasn't great at getting in refs ears....it isn't just about 'diving' although we probably could benefit from being a bit cuter at feeling contact and going down as they call it, without the theatrics that actually cause refs to assume it is a case of trying it on.   Sadly it is all a big part of the shitfest of modern footy and we have to get with it or we'll be sitting clutching our 'we played the right way' trophy whilst the others pick up the pots that matter.   The refs are shite, VAR is shite, but they are not gonna get better, we have to adapt sadly.
    • I dont want our players to be cunts to win a football match. We're supposed to be better than that and yes, while it sticks in the craw to see others prospering with it, I dont want us cheating, being snides, real clever or whatever you want to call it to win games and trophies.   This idea that if our players were more clever refs would suddenly start giving us shitloads of pens is fanciful in my opinion. We're talking about Taylor, Atkinson, Marriner etc, the same refs who see what goes on during a game and still wave play on when one of ours goes down in the box.   All that's going to happen is players like Sadio, Mo and anyone else who joins in will get carded for simulation. The problem isnt our players arent clever or that united players are. The problem is shit refs and now VAR never getting called out for giving soft penalties at important times during a game to united but turning a blind one to us and other clubs.   Spurs scored a goal at united one game that almost hit the back of the net and wasnt given because neither the ref nor lino had a good view of it! Even the united keeper after sheepishly putting the ball back into play was walking around his box waving his arms around to say how the fuck have you missed that, arent you giving a goal.   Hardly anything was mentioned about that huge incident and it was quickly brushed under the carpet to spare the fucking officials blushes.
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