Cancel Culture

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

You leave Feargal Sharkey out of this.

Hahaha 

[Pidge]

 

[SasaS]

"They Cancel Horses, Don't They?"

[Bruce Spanner]

As part of todays Queens Speech legislation was brought forward that if you are 'cancelled' when a speaking engagement/debate/stood on a bar stool at a university has been arranged/booked you can now claim compensation for it.

 

Tory gonna Tory.

[Anubis]

16 hours ago, Pidge said:

 

Neigh lad.

[Geoff Woade]

29 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

As part of todays Queens Speech legislation was brought forward that if you are 'cancelled' when a speaking engagement/debate/stood on a bar stool at a university has been arranged/booked you can now claim compensation for it.

 

Tory gonna Tory.

Flip it on its head though, if it was more the right wing that were doing the cancelling of those with left wing views would you not want the left protected by the law. I would.

 

I’ve no issue with it, I’d much rather have the debate.

 

[Bruce Spanner]

15 minutes ago, Geoff Woade said:

Flip it on its head though, if it was more the right wing that were doing the cancelling of those with left wing views would you not want the left protected by the law. I would.

 

I’ve no issue with it, I’d much rather have the debate.

 

 

That in theory is fine, but the bill itself, like much of the complaints about BBC impartiality is about presenting 'opposing views' for balance and we know where ends up.

 

Universities have always had free speech policies, but these are about stoking the culture wars flames, nothing else, and inadvertently narrowing debate through fear of censure and fines.

 

The first line 'That leave be given to bring in a Bill to place a duty on universities to promote freedom of speech; to make provision for fining universities that do not comply with that duty; and for connected purposes.'

 

They have always promoted freedom of speech, they have never had to included radical/objectionable/fringe/dangerous views by law.

 

The larger point is who decides what views count as needing protection.

[Scooby Dudek]

16 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

That in theory is fine, but the bill itself, like much of the complaints about BBC impartiality is about presenting 'opposing views' for balance and we know where ends up.

 

Universities have always had free speech policies, but these are about stoking the culture wars flames, nothing else, and inadvertently narrowing debate through fear of censure and fines.

 

The first line 'That leave be given to bring in a Bill to place a duty on universities to promote freedom of speech; to make provision for fining universities that do not comply with that duty; and for connected purposes.'

 

They have always promoted freedom of speech, they have never had to included radical/objectionable/fringe/dangerous views by law.

 

The larger point is who decides what views count as needing protection.

This from a government that doesn't allow "anti-capitalist" teachings in schools.

[sir roger]

It will be interesting to see cabinet ministers fighting for the rights of a Hamas spokesman invited to speak at a University. Interesting , as in it won't happen.

[Strontium]

Pretty sure Daud Abdullah has spoken at many universities without obstruction, and been employed by a few too.

[sir roger]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Pretty sure Daud Abdullah has spoken at many universities without obstruction, and been employed by a few too.

Not sure about that , but I'm sure he was the subject of a Labour governmen cutting any links with the Council of Muslims to try to force him off their board. 

[Juniper]

Seen that some people are trying to cancel Rage Against the Machine for tweeting support for Palestine and therefor having political views.

 

Peak cancel culture. 

Shaking my head, I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 11/05/2021 at 14:05, Scooby Dudek said:

This from a government that doesn't allow "anti-capitalist" teachings in schools.

They're also bringing in laws to criminalise protest, to restrict the right to vote, to allow soldiers, spies and undercover police to commit crimes with impunity and to allow themselves to circumvent parliamentary accountability. 

 

I'm not convinced of the integrity of their commitment to free speech. 

[Rico1304]

 

[Bruce Spanner]

1 hour ago, Juniper said:

Seen that some people are trying to cancel Rage Against the Machine for tweeting support for Palestine and therefor having political views.

 

Peak cancel culture. 

Shaking my head, I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic.

 

People are idiots.

[VladimirIlyich]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

People are idiots.

You don't say. 

[TheHowieLama]

3 hours ago, Juniper said:

 trying to cancel Rage Against the Machine

They cancelled most of the world 25 years ago.

 

BTW -- Dead Abdullah - great band name.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

People are idiots.

I'm sure they will miss having the jarg Big Boss Man not listening to them anymore. 

[Anubis]

Who is he?

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Anubis said:

Who is he?

The Other Tom Morello.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Who is he?

Remmie. 

[Bruce Spanner]

15 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Who is he?

Just a random bloke who is, quite rightly, annoyed that the popular beat combo Rage Against the Machine can’t keep their political beliefs to themselves.

 

It really puts him off his hangin’ with his bros, drinking Bud Lite, beating nerds and date raping.

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Just a random bloke who is, quite rightly, annoyed that the popular beat combo Rage Against the Machine can’t keep their political beliefs to themselves.

 

It really puts him off his hangin’ with his bro’s, drinking Bud Lite, beating nerds and date raping.

Must have been thrown off by the fella in flames on the first record and the first track:

 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Must have been thrown off by the fella in flames on the first record and the first track:

 

 

 

Yeah, saccharine shite, not sure why he lumped them in with anarcho punk figurehead ‘Pink’.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Always remember the singer from primal scream being on some political programme when the presenter and some MP started dancing to some segment and he just sat there looking at them with utter contempt.