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4 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Good spot this -- it truly wasn't a thing a few years ago.

Calling something you do not like "Fake News" - hmm.. seems a little dismissive at it's core.

I watched Trumbo the other day... where they got people sacked and even jailed in the US for being socialists in the 50s. Seems like a form of it has always existed, we just didn’t have a name for it.

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7 hours ago, cloggypop said:

Need to do a better job on Laurence Fox. Before he'd been cancelled I'd never heard of the cunt. 

Hes an actor, his acting is almost as bad as his social commentating. Although if he played the lead role in a real life snuff movie I'd ignore my prejudice and nominate him for an oscar.

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4 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Hes an actor, his acting is almost as bad as his social commentating. Although if he played the lead role in a real life snuff movie I'd ignore my prejudice and nominate him for an oscar.

Is his acting worse than his music? That's fucking terrible. 

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4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Amazingly, the majority of people who signed the letter in Harper's are still working and earning a living. This "cancel culture" isn't really living up to its name.

Did you read it? It wasn’t saying ‘we’ve been cancelled’. 

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5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Did you read it? It wasn’t saying ‘we’ve been cancelled’. 

So maybe the letter about cancel culture would be better coming from people who have been cancelled rather than people who realised they are now questioned about what they say?

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4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

So maybe the letter about cancel culture would be better coming from people who have been cancelled rather than people who realised they are now questioned about what they say?

So you didn’t read it? There’s a theme here. 
 

You don’t have to agree with it, but moaning about people being bothered enough about it to want it to stop seems a bit stupid. 
 

Maybe you dont see any danger in accusing someone of being a Nazi for expressing a very benign opinion. Especially when they haven’t read that opinion. Oh, hold on a second...

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10 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Of what? An over avuncular step father?

Of cancel culture. The PR agencies advising their clients to publicly distance from him, people who worked with him suddenly becoming aware there were accusations and giving up their acting fees in well publicised moves, walk-out at Hachette after Master Farrow spoke up, Amazon cancelling the deal with him. Attacks on people who defended him.
 

By the way, there is a very good way of spotting proponents of cancel culture, they are quick to dismiss it exists. A bit like with De Rougemont's Devil.

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Just now, SasaS said:

Of cancel culture. The PR agencies advising their clients to publicly distance from him, people who worked with him suddenly becoming aware there were accusations and giving up their acting fees in well publicised moves, walk-out at Hachette after Master Farrow spoke up, Amazon cancelling the deal with him. Attacks on people who defended him.
 

By the way, there is a very good way of spotting proponents of cancel culture, they are quick to dismiss it exists. A bit like with De Rougemont's Devil.

And on the other hand you have Roman Polanski who admitted to bumming a child and is the darling of the media.  Or the Canadian PM who dressed in blackface a few times and is a champion of the work left. 

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2 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Of cancel culture. The PR agencies advising their clients to publicly distance from him, people who worked with him suddenly becoming aware there were accusations and giving up their acting fees in well publicised moves, walk-out at Hachette after Master Farrow spoke up, Amazon cancelling the deal with him. Attacks on people who defended him.
 

By the way, there is a very good way of spotting proponents of cancel culture, they are quick to dismiss it exists. A bit like with De Rougemont's Devil.

I think it is a bit different comparing someone talking bollocks on twitter with someone accused of molesting their underaged step daughter.

Woody more fits in the Polanski, how to separate the artist from the man kind of cancelling, rather than the free speech kind.

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5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

And on the other hand you have Roman Polanski who admitted to bumming a child and is the darling of the media.  Or the Canadian PM who dressed in blackface a few times and is a champion of the work left. 

Ha, same example, but Roman Polanski is the darling of the media? 

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I don't think you actively have to tell someone they've been sacked for it to impact their career, it's more a case of the stigma it attracts. 

 

It's similar to the antisemitism thing with labour. Some stuff was said/posted/tweeted by certain people, some of it genuinely bad some of it tenuous at best, but the likes of Corbyn then existed under its cloud. People talked about "the antisemitism thing" and it was raised time and again by half wits like Philip schofield when corbyn came on the show. Didn't care to look into it, just knew that "the antisemitism thing" was following him around like a cloud and it made for easy telly. 

 

JK Rowling is now, and probably will be forever, known as 'controversial' author. People will roll their eyes when she's due to be on telly and say "didn't she say something bad about transgender people?". Without bothering to read up on what it was. 

 

Graham linehan hasn't been formally sscked by anyone save for having his twitter account deleted, but he'll probably never work again, at least at the level he did. And for what? Did he fiddle kids or kill anyone? No.

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