Thiago Alcantara

[stringvest]

Just now, VladimirIlyich said:

Our MOTM was either Alisson or Matip. Thiago was a bit down the list.

Thiago was playing midfield on his own for most of the game.  He worked hard today.  Deserving on the MOTM award, at least for Liverpool.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

2 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Thiago was playing midfield on his own for most of the game.  He worked hard today.  Deserving on the MOTM award, at least for Liverpool.

This.

[aRdja]

12 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Our MOTM was either Alisson or Matip. Thiago was a bit down the list.

Yeah I thought Matip struggled to be honest. Unlucky with the deflection and he played Jesus on for their second. 

[aRdja]

double post,

[TheHowieLama]

Matip not even close to MOTM.

[Bob]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

That might be true, because I think he's the most overrated player to ever play for us. So when he does play well, big fucking deal, you've earnt your 200k for once. But I'm the wrong one here? The lad passed the ball and the was a turn over of possession before we won the ball back and a great pull back from trent and Jota doing his stuff and we're supposed to think that's "creating" a goal? Honestly, it's fucking madness. 

No there wasn’t. There was a partial clearance, because we’d got round the back of them and they were scrambling, because of the first pass.

 

what went on to happen was a new phase of the same play. A phase on which Thiago wasn’t involved at all, but a phase that only exists because the first ball was so good.

[dockers_strike]

4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Matip not even close to MOTM.

Agreed! I think Alli and Thiago are the best shouts over the 90 minutes, Id probably lean towards with Alli.

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

Agreed! I think Alli and Thiago are the best shouts over the 90 minutes, Id probably lean towards with Alli.

Both CB's were well off their best.

[dockers_strike]

4 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Both CB's were well off their best.

And both fullback and defensive mid!

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, dockers_strike said:

And both fullback and defensive mid!

The fullbacks at least worked a treat for a GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

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11 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The fullbacks at least worked a treat for a GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

Yes, which Ive acknowledged elsewhere regarding Trent but defensively were all over the place most of the game.

[claussor]

Thiago together with Alisson was my MOTM. I don't understand the criticism to be honest of the defence. Our problem as it has been for much of the season is that our forwards cannot keep the ball or run past a defender anymore. Mane/Salah doesn't have the pace and lose almost all 1on1s. When you require a high defensive line as Klopp does it will make the defence look silly, when you constantly loose the ball, but it's not their fault. The second half got better, but compare our forwards with City, thats the issue. They can play football... Our forwards are better at pacy counterattack. Our defense and midfield are the reason we are doing so well this season. They are the spine. It's so weird listening to all the Trent criticism. He's required to go forward all the time, and when Salah can't trap the ball he will be out of position.

 

Our defense battled hard but got overrun, because of all the losses of possession. Sure - a world class KDB will hurt everyone. 

[Code]

I just love Thiago 

 

[Kevin D]

1 hour ago, TheHowieLama said:

Matip not even close to MOTM.

Matip was outstanding in the second half, I thought. 

[aRdja]

5 hours ago, stringvest said:

It changed the direction and tempo of the move and put City on the back foot.  Pretty rare occurrence today.

@Caramac when you get the chance, would you please? x

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Both CB's were well off their best.

Off their best but still not that bad. I'm not having Thiago as MoM though as he wasnt much better than the other two.

You could argue that our CBs were not at the races because of how bad the players in front of them were so poor.

[The Golden Eel]

Good player but seems massively overrated among Liverpool fans and pundits, etc. Half the matches he plays he's either creating chances for the opposition or nearly being sent off. 

[Caramac]

[stringvest]

2 hours ago, The Golden Eel said:

Good player but seems massively overrated among Liverpool fans and pundits, etc. Half the matches he plays he's either creating chances for the opposition or nearly being sent off. 

Nearly but not quite getting sent off vs nearly but not quite putting a challenge in to win the ball back.  I guess you have to choose which of those you object to most.

[El Rojo]

6 minutes ago, stringvest said:

Nearly but not quite getting sent off vs nearly but not quite putting a challenge in to win the ball back.  I guess you have to choose which of those you object to most.

Doesn't always have to be either/or though. There's a constituency of us who appreciate what both Thiago and Henderson bring.

 

Henderson was always more about pressing or nicking the ball, he was never a tackler. He wasn't great yesterday, but neither was Fabinho. Thiago was better but he struggled at times too and if Rodri had escaped similar we'd have about five different threads on here on how he should have been sent off. Fabinho was lucky to stay on the pitch too. It's incredibly hard to play against that City midfield anyway so I wouldn't criticise any of them. 

 

With all the injuries he's sustained, I reckon Henderson is continually playing through a pain barrier now like Gerrard had to. That doesn't help either. 

[Anubis]

10 hours ago, aRdja said:

Yeah I thought Matip struggled to be honest. Unlucky with the deflection and he played Jesus on for their second. 

For me their second was more on Trent for not watching Jesus’ run.

[Numero Veinticinco]

11 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

Haha, it was a good ball, maybe slightly better than standard, but have to agree with Bazza here. Bit of a stretch to say it created the goal.

More or less of a stretch than saying he’s the most overrated player ever to play for us?

[Lario]

1 hour ago, Caramac said:

That's a fucking ridiculous pass. Anyone that says otherwise hasn't a notion in the ocean.

[DJLJ]

3 hours ago, Anubis said:

For me their second was more on Trent for not watching Jesus’ run.

Trent just stands there, not moving at all. Jesus runs at just the right time to get onto the pass and score a goal. Well worked but Trent has to track him when he runs in behind him.

[3 Stacks]

2 hours ago, Lario said:

That's a fucking ridiculous pass. Anyone that says otherwise hasn't a notion in the ocean.

It's the one piece of play in the 1st half that allows us to create something against a City side that is squeezing us to death.