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Keir Starmer


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7 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Sue Grey quits and takes new roles as 'PM's envoy for nations and regions'. Morgan McSweeney to take over as Chief of Staff. 

The media finally get their revenge for her report on johnson 

Can't decide if it's just a side ways move to get her out of the firing line

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the media have whipped the bootlickers into a frenzy, and they are expecting the government to fall within days.

 

there are obviously issues around the winter fuel payment but the budget will tell us a lot.

 

in other new, anderson has called starmer a traitor over the chagos island issue.In a crowded field he may well be the densest MP we have ever had.

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I've noticed a concerted effort on Facebook, twitter, newspaper comments for reform to be going at labour mps/councillors a lot now. 

 

It's easy to do when you have no plan, argument ideas yourself.

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I love Reform. What a cracking source of entertainment. 'Stop the boats' they cry, to which I respond 'cool, how?', and they say 'send in the Navy', and I query 'send in military warships to deal with people in dinghies... okay, then what?', to which you don't get much of anything. They're not going back so... shoot them? Kill civilian children in the channel? You want the country that spent 40% of its GDP and used the Navy to end the slave trade to fucking well attack civilians in the channel? You're right, you're the patriots and I'm a traitor. Off you pop, you unthinking, tribal drone. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I love Reform. What a cracking source of entertainment. 'Stop the boats' they cry, to which I respond 'cool, how?', and they say 'send in the Navy', and I query 'send in military warships to deal with people in dinghies... okay, then what?', to which you don't get much of anything. They're not going back so... shoot them? Kill civilian children in the channel? You want the country that spent 40% of its GDP and used the Navy to end the slave trade to fucking well attack civilians in the channel? You're right, you're the patriots and I'm a traitor. Off you pop, you unthinking, tribal drone. 

 

 

its actually quite impressive how they get through day to day life.

The navy have already said they wouldnt do that. it would be nice for at least 1 journalist to ask reform those question however.

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39 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

its actually quite impressive how they get through day to day life.

The navy have already said they wouldnt do that. it would be nice for at least 1 journalist to ask reform those question however.

 

Yeah, and we need to admit we have a problem with them. These lot cost us our place in the EU - disgusting - and now they have 4m votes. The Tories need to return to the centre-right and destroy those cunts, and Labour need to cut off their bollocks my actually dealing with the optics around immigration. It'll take more than a few months, but they need to get to grips with it. Then the media and BBC, if they're intent on giving them so much air time, as they did with Johnson, then they need to actually tackle them. They're a threat. 

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4 hours ago, Arniepie said:

its actually quite impressive how they get through day to day life.

The woke navy have already said they wouldnt do that. it would be nice for at least 1 journalist to ask reform those question however.


Amended. 

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3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

Yeah, and we need to admit we have a problem with them. These lot cost us our place in the EU - disgusting - and now they have 4m votes. The Tories need to return to the centre-right and destroy those cunts, and Labour need to cut off their bollocks my actually dealing with the optics around immigration. It'll take more than a few months, but they need to get to grips with it. Then the media and BBC, if they're intent on giving them so much air time, as they did with Johnson, then they need to actually tackle them. They're a threat. 

if they cant put a dent in the crossings.that may scupper them but they are facing an incredibly hostile media.

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13 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Ferrari on LBC this morning called Starmer "never here Keir" this morning because he was, wait for it, at the G20.

 

6 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

fat gammon cunt

Has he mentioned Farage spending more time in the states than he has in his constituency or parliament?

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38 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Ferrari on LBC this morning called Starmer "never here Keir" this morning because he was, wait for it, at the G20.


It was likely prompted by this:


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/nov/17/keir-starmer-time-abroad-prime-minister

 

 

No sooner had Keir Starmer got the keys to No 10 than the new prime minister was out of the country at the Nato summit in Washington. When the prime minister returns from the G20 in Brazil this week, he will have been out of the country for 26 days – five working weeks in just under five months in office.

 

By the end of the month, Starmer will have taken at least 10 overseas trips, more than any Conservative PM in a similar timeframe. The regularity of the prime minister jetting out of the country has alarmed some in No 10.

 

Voters are starting to notice it too, according to Luke Tryl, of the polling firm More in Common, who said people in focus groups had started mentioning “Starmer always seems to be abroad”.

So where has the prime minister been travelling to?

Washington DC, 9-11 July

Starmer had been prime minister for just five days when he flew to the US to attend the Nato summit, his first meeting with the US president . Plenty of world leaders, many facing electoral difficulties, were said to be keen to meet Starmer on the sidelines to discuss his tactics.

 

Berlin, 14 July

Hardly an onerous trip for the new prime minister, the visit to Berlin was to watch Englandin the final of Euro 2024, though he was not a lucky charm for the team, who lost 2-1 to Spain.

 

 

Paris, 27 July

Starmer attended the opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics, catching a flight over the Channel after arson attacks on the railways. He met Team GB athletes but held no bilateral meeting with President Emmanuel Macron.

 

Berlin, 28 July

The prime minister’s first solo bilateral trip with a European leader was to the German capital with the chancellor, Olaf Scholz, a fellow centre-leftist whose political coalition has since collapsed.

 

The purpose of the visit was ostensibly to announce the beginning of negotiations for a defence pact, similar to that negotiated with France, but Starmer framed it as the start of work to reset relations with Europe after the turmoil of the Brexit years.


Paris, 28 August

Starmer had spent a month back in the UK by the time he departed again for the Paralympics opening ceremony, having spent the intervening weeks dealing with the Southport attack and the ensuing far-right riots. There was more official business this time – a bilateral meeting with Macron and a roundtable with French business leaders.


Dublin, 7 September

Taoiseach Simon Harris hosted Starmer for a flying visit and bilateral meeting. Starmer is said to have been most keen to improve relations with Ireland above any other nation, after difficult divisions during Brexit under the Conservatives.

 

 

Washington, 13 September

Starmer flew for his second meeting with the US president, Joe Biden, at the White House for a surprise visit shortly before the Labour conference, an unexpected trip having met Biden already at the Nato summit. The meeting was said to have been prompted by a desire to persuade Biden to allow Ukraine to use western missiles inside Russian territory, though the decision was delayed.

Italy, 16 September

Starmer met Giorgia Meloni on a similar mission to persuade the Italian prime minister to back the use of missiles by Ukraine inside Russia. Starmer said also the UK wanted to learn from Italy how to tackle illegal migration.
 

New York, 24-27 September

It was very much in the balance whether Starmer would attend the UN general assembly, which clashed with the end of the Labour conference. Initially aides thought he would not attend.

 

It became clear why it was prioritised – Starmer secured a meeting with Donald Trump in New York for dinner with his foreign secretary, David Lammy, a former harsh critic of Trump. After Trump’s election, the president-elect is said to have reminisced fondly about the dinner.

Brussels, 2 October

Another trip as part of the Europe “reset” – Starmer met the president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, and promised regular visits.

Berlin, 18 October

Another trip to Berlin – this time for the so-called “quad” meeting of world leaders, including Biden and Macron, who discussed the killing of the Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

Samoa, 24-26 October

The Commonwealth heads of government meeting involved a 27-hour flight the week before the budget. Some quarters strongly argued that Starmer should not go, with travel time and jet lag being key factors. But it was too politically risky for him to miss the first summit with King Charles.

 

Budapest, 7 November

The Budapest summit was the meeting of the European Political Community (EPC), one that, again, some critics said Starmer could have decided to miss. But it was an opportunity for Starmer to meet Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

 

Paris, 11 November

Starmer was the first British prime minister since Winston Churchill to attend the French Armistice Day commemorations. But the event was also billed as a “European moment”, which would be symbolic in the wake of Trump’s election victory.

 

Azerbaijan, 12 November

Starmer attended Cop29 , the UN climate change conference, one of the few high-profile world leaders to do so. He announced an ambitious emissions target of 81% reduction by 2035.

Rio de Janeiro, 18-19 November

The prime minister will jet off yet again for the G20 summit of world leaders, an opportunity to meet those from further afield including potential leaders of India and China. But many of the world leaders he will meet, including Biden, Scholz and Justin Trudeau, are set for imminent departure or defeat.

 

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Trying to repair a global rep in light of a trump White House also makes absolute sense.


Yeah, I mean, I can understand how leadership from your leaders might be confusing to a few of these people. It’s so tiresome though. He’s already taking criticism for the amount of carbon he’s using by attending meetings and summits. Just waiting for Kuenssberg and Mason to put the boot in. 

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3 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:


Yeah, I mean, I can understand how leadership from your leaders might be confusing to a few of these people. It’s so tiresome though. He’s already taking criticism for the amount of carbon he’s using by attending meetings and summits. Just waiting for Kuenssberg and Mason to put the boot in. 


Its mental. Now imagined he’d not attended a few they’d be calling him a lazy bastard. How anyone doesn’t think we have a heavily weighted right wing biased media is beyond me. 

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