Keir Starmer

[The wanderer]

7 hours ago, TheSire said:

It doesn't include train drivers. They're not asking for more money. 

Look I am not asking the question to have a go at them . I don’t live in the UK I am interested in how it compares to the average salary there of other workers there . To me it looks decent but maybe it’s not.

[Jairzinho]

7 hours ago, The wanderer said:

Look I am not asking the question to have a go at them . I don’t live in the UK I am interested in how it compares to the average salary there of other workers there . To me it looks decent but maybe it’s not.

 

It is, it's decent. They've got a good union.

 

But, grand scheme of things, who gives a fuck? 

 

They're simply a useful diversionary tactic for billionaire media barons to use on thick as fucking mince peasant mentality serf cunts.

 

 

[The wanderer]

18 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

It is, it's decent. They've got a good union.

 

But, grand scheme of things, who gives a fuck? 

 

They're simply a useful diversionary tactic for billionaire media barons to use on thick as fucking mince peasant mentality serf cunts.

 

 

Thanks for info 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Trevor and his 20 Brexity racist friends are this century's Lunar Society.

https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/The-Lunar-Society/

[Section_31]

24 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

It is, it's decent. They've got a good union.

 

But, grand scheme of things, who gives a fuck? 

 

They're simply a useful diversionary tactic for billionaire media barons to use on thick as fucking mince peasant mentality serf cunts.

 

 

 

Yeah I can't imagine ever being arsed what money someone else is on, unless it's someone who's destroyed lives like speculators.

 

If you told me bin men were on a hundred grand I'd say 'salud'. 

[Mudface]

23 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

It is, it's decent. They've got a good union.

 

But, grand scheme of things, who gives a fuck? 

 

They're simply a useful diversionary tactic for billionaire media barons to use on thick as fucking mince peasant mentality serf cunts.

 

What really pisses me off about said cunts is that whenever someone or some group is highlighted for having something decent- wage, pension, working conditions etc- it's never, 'ooh, I want that too, how did they achieve that?'. It's always, 'I don't have that, so I don't want them to have it either'. Petty, small minded jealousy, no wonder it's so easy for the actual elite to divide and conquer.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Workers earning a good wage isn’t the issue, it’s that all workers aren’t getting a good enough wage. If workers, as they do, who work full time still require state support in the way of benefits, then they’re not getting paid enough. It should be on the companies to pay their staff, not the state. It’s not like a lot of these companies aren’t earning plenty of profit to pay their staff properly. If it’s an SME then you can introduce tax relief to ensure they get paid well, and use the greater tax receipts from those paid more to cover that relief. The minimum wage must go (and is going) up. For too long companies have been getting away with taking the piss out of the working classes. 

[Section_31]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Workers earning a good wage isn’t the issue, it’s that all workers aren’t getting a good enough wage. If workers, as they do, who work full time still require state support in the way of benefits, then they’re not getting paid enough. It should be on the companies to pay their staff, not the state. It’s not like a lot of these companies aren’t earning plenty of profit to pay their staff properly. If it’s an SME then you can introduce tax relief to ensure they get paid well, and use the greater tax receipts from those paid more to cover that relief. The minimum wage must go (and is going) go. For too long companies have been getting away with taking the piss out of the working classes. 

 

Spot on  that. If you work then the absolute bare minimum you should be able to afford is a roof over your head and to feed and clothe yourself and your kids. It doesn't matter what job it is, but that should be the absolute bare minimum. The concept of the 'working poor' is a disgrace. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Yeah I can't imagine ever being arsed what money someone else is on, unless it's someone who's destroyed lives like speculators.

 

If you told me bin men were on a hundred grand I'd say 'salud'. 

Ohh, are you referring to waste management consultants? 

[Megadrive Man]

15 hours ago, Fugitive said:

He actually voted for these cunts and happily admits it…

 

 

 

It blows my mind that anybody thinks these bunch of ex Tory chancers are political revolutionaries.

 

How do Nigel Farage or Rupert Lowe compare to Che Guevara or Fidel Castro? 

[Arniepie]

25 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

What really pisses me off about said cunts is that whenever someone or some group is highlighted for having something decent- wage, pension, working conditions etc- it's never, 'ooh, I want that too, how did they achieve that?'. It's always, 'I don't have that, so I don't want them to have it either'. Petty, small minded jealousy, no wonder it's so easy for the actual elite to divide and conquer.

its thatcherism in a nutshell.

its like the thick cunts who demand a smaller state and will then have a fit because it takes the police 6 weeks to turn up after their house is done over.

[Arniepie]

3 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

It blows my mind that anybody thinks these bunch of ex Tory chancers are political revolutionaries.

 

How do Nigel Farage or Rupert Lowe compare to Che Guevara or Fidel Castro? 

anti establishment heroes

[Jairzinho]

I thought it was the left who (top right wing banter incoming) "want everyone to live in equal poverty"?

[Arniepie]

I wonder if any other countries have the mentality we have in this country where working people getting a pay rise is seen as a negative, yet millionaires attempt to swerve millions in tax.

Where there is widespread gnashing of teeth because a couple of rich people have "threatened" to leave yet we have record number of children affected by homelessness.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

Yeah I can't imagine ever being arsed what money someone else is on, unless it's someone who's destroyed lives like speculators.

 

There's a lot of people who see economics as a zero-sum game. That if someone else has a lot of money, it must mean someone else has less.

I disagree, and that's because I'm not a conservative. Or a Marxist.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

33 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

There's a lot of people who see economics as a zero-sum game. That if someone else has a lot of money, it must mean someone else has less.

I disagree, and that's because I'm not a conservative. Or a Marxist.

More than that, people don't generally comprehend how much the very richest are sitting on.  

 

(As an aside, do conservatives and Marxists really deny the existence of economic growth?)

[Megadrive Man]

The I are reporting that Ian Byrne, John McDonnell, Richard Burgon, Apsana Begum and Zarah Sultana could be kicked out of the Labour party permanently for voting against the Government on the two-child benefit cap.

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

More than that, people don't generally comprehend how much the very richest are sitting on.  

 

(As an aside, do conservatives and Marxists really deny the existence of economic growth?)

 

I read somewhere that three men - THREE - in the USA have the same wealth as the poorest 150 MILLION. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Megadrive Man said:

The I are reporting that Ian Byrne, John McDonnell, Richard Burgon, Apsana Begum and Zarah Sultana could be kicked out of the Labour party permanently for voting against the Government on the two-child benefit cap.

That would be ridiculous.  

 

I had to argue with someone who was comparing Starmer to Blair, because Blair had political nous.  Starmer really could fuck this up and usher in a Tory/Fascist coalition at the next election.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

40 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

I read somewhere that three men - THREE - in the USA have the same wealth as the poorest 150 MILLION. 

The UK has more millionaires and billionaires than ever before; people who have seen their wealth balloon in the last few years, while millions of people are living hand to mouth.  

 

But let's blame asylum seekers and fucking train drivers.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 hour ago, Megadrive Man said:

The I are reporting that Ian Byrne, John McDonnell, Richard Burgon, Apsana Begum and Zarah Sultana could be kicked out of the Labour party permanently for voting against the Government on the two-child benefit cap.

 

That's unlikely, but I thought they were really stupid for doing it. They fell into the trap so badly, not to mention it was a policy they all stood on. 

[Arniepie]

14 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The UK has more millionaires and billionaires than ever before; people who have seen their wealth balloon in the last few years, while millions of people are living hand to mouth.  

 

But let's blame asylum seekers and fucking train drivers.

but who would we cope without these wealth creators?

[HazelyCosmicJove]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

 

I read somewhere that three men - THREE - in the USA have the same wealth as the poorest 150 MILLION. 

A dangerous game you play assuming gender in this day and age. How do you know that Elon Musk identifies as a man? Maybe he is bi or non-bi. Maybe at weekends he dresses up as a woman and posts on X under the name Tracy Tesla. 

[bossy]

Trevor’s post about his up to 20 mates meeting weekly and hundreds of other groups across the country, is either really sinister or rather funny. 

[HazelyCosmicJove]

32 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The UK has more millionaires and billionaires than ever before; people who have seen their wealth balloon in the last few years, while millions of people are living hand to mouth.  

 

But let's blame asylum seekers and fucking train drivers.

Seems a little harsh but if that is how this forum rolls.... . I've never fucked a train driver so can't help with that but DAMN YOU ASYLUM SEEKERS!!!!