Keir Starmer

[Riley Greenleaf]

5 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Owen Jones "why haven't they put this in their manifesto?!"

 

* sigh.

 

https://x.com/Annaisaac/status/1804173522291286382

 

 

He gets ever more ridiculous by the day (if that were somehow possible) Starmer has got him in a straight jacket he really has. Complete obsession . 

[Section_31]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-boris-johnson-partygate-b2567067.html

 

 

[an tha]

He may not be very charismatic and I feel he isn't all that great in the debates and I don't think he is a particularly good or inspiring campaigner....But I do think he will be a very good prime minister - I think he'll bring integrity to the job, realism to the job and honesty, things that have been missing for too long.

[skend04]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/22/starmer-growth-plan-doomed-access-eu-markets-economists

 

Today's little speech about not rejoining, not going into a customs union blah blah blah is going to bite him on the arse soon enough. 

 

It's the economy stupid!

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, skend04 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/22/starmer-growth-plan-doomed-access-eu-markets-economists

 

Today's little speech about not rejoining, not going into a customs union blah blah blah is going to bite him on the arse soon enough. 

 

It's the economy stupid!

 

The conversation starts post election, he has 2/3 years to make the case, and they will, in some degree.

[Section_31]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

The conversation starts post election, he has 2/3 years to make the case, and they will, in some degree.

 

He'll take the same approach as the social scientists did to lockdowns, make it so the public are demanding it and then when it comes, act like it was our idea all along.

[skend04]

2 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

The conversation starts post election, he has 2/3 years to make the case, and they will, in some degree.

 

I think it's being so definite about it then times it has come up. It just adds to the 'dishonest' tag when it eventually does become the elephant in the room. But still, I'd rather have that debate under a Labour government than Tory.

[Gnasher]

Not a hope in hell Starmer and Reeves will try to rejoin the EU and I don't blame them. 

[redinblack]

4 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Not a hope in hell Starmer and Reeves will try to rejoin the EU and I don't blame them. 

I think you are right, and I dont blame them either. But I suspect not for the same reasons as you.

[Section_31]

Labour will create a watchdog with “real teeth” that has the power to prosecute and fine companies that breach the rights of their employees as part of its plans to strengthen workers’ rights.

Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, told the Observer that she would create a new body, the Fair Work Agency, to oversee her proposals. She said that millions of workers could be losing out on basic rights as a result of underenforcement.

[Jairzinho]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jun/22/keir-starmer-changed-labour-party-brighton

[TheSire]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

Labour will create a watchdog with “real teeth” that has the power to prosecute and fine companies that breach the rights of their employees as part of its plans to strengthen workers’ rights.

Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, told the Observer that she would create a new body, the Fair Work Agency, to oversee her proposals. She said that millions of workers could be losing out on basic rights as a result of underenforcement.

Horrible bastards. Red tories.

[sir roger]

Apparently there is no 'dignity in accepting state handouts.

No mention of how much 'dignity' there is in companies avoiding tax.and going offshore.

[TheSire]

5 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Apparently there is no 'dignity in accepting state handouts.

No mention of how much 'dignity' there is in companies avoiding tax.and going offshore.

Oh that's totally fine! 

[Creator Supreme]

7 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Apparently there is no 'dignity in accepting state handouts.

No mention of how much 'dignity' there is in companies avoiding tax.and going offshore.

Which cunt said that?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

Labour will create a watchdog with “real teeth” that has the power to prosecute and fine companies that breach the rights of their employees as part of its plans to strengthen workers’ rights.

Angela Rayner, the party’s deputy leader, told the Observer that she would create a new body, the Fair Work Agency, to oversee her proposals. She said that millions of workers could be losing out on basic rights as a result of underenforcement.

Like the General Secretary of UNISON said last week, we've had 14 years of having the door shut in our face; now we'll have a seat at the table.  I've got no love for Starmer's Labour, but that change shouldn't be underestimated.

[Rushies tash]

7 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Like the General Secretary of UNISON said last week, we've had 14 years of having the door shut in our face; now we'll have a seat at the table.  I've got no love for Starmer's Labour, but that change shouldn't be underestimated.

 

"Labour in the pockets of the unions!" etc. etc.

[Section_31]

Why wasn't it in the manifesto Bill?

[Gnasher]

"Handouts" 

 

He has no qualms on punching down. 

 

 

[Rushies tash]

6 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

"Handouts" 

 

He has no qualms on punching down. 

 

 

 

Apart from the word 'handout', most of that article is about him wanting to give people the opportunity to earn a decent wage and the dignity of being able to do so. Obviously that's different for people who are unable to work, but I don't see alot wrong with it.

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Apart from the word 'handout', most of that article is about him wanting to give people the opportunity to earn a decent wage and the dignity of being able to do so. Obviously that's different for people who are unable to work, but I don't see alot wrong with it.

 

If you're off work through sickness or illness and you've payed national insurance it's hardly a handout. Obviously people would take a decent job with decent pay if they could, that should go without saying. 

[Rushies tash]

3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

If you're off work through sickness or illness and you've payed national insurance it's hardly a handout. Obviously people would take a decent job with decent pay if they could, that should go without saying. 

 

Like I said, the word 'handout' is probably misjudged, but given that he was talking to the Telegraph, then he's clearly aware of his audience. "We will never turn our back on people who are struggling" is all you need to take from that article.

[Jairzinho]

I wouldn't take anything from that article. Or anything else he says. He's trying to get a very specific demographic to vote for him, nothing else.

[Gnasher]

8 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Like I said, the word 'handout' is probably misjudged, but given that he was talking to the Telegraph, then he's clearly aware of his audience. "We will never turn our back on people who are struggling" is all you need to take from that article.

 

OK, hope you're right.

[Section_31]

Stella Creasy's office has been vandalised, think that's about the third in recent weeks. Grim. What a time to be alive.