Keir Starmer

[TheBitch]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

I wish Dan Hodges would fuck off.

Agreed. 

[Scooby Dudek]

I found this interesting;

 

 

[Gnasher]

My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Duff Man]

I've quite enjoyed Mick Lynch's media appearances, taking absolutely no shit at all from the hacks.

[Gnasher]

5 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

I've quite enjoyed Mick Lynch's media appearances, taking absolutely no shit at all from the hacks.

The one thing to come out of this so far is Mick Lynch has been fucking boss... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I just saw his full interview, and I agree with Mick Lynch on this. 
 

He was asked, ‘where do you think Labour are on this class struggle’, to which he replied ‘I don’t know where Labour are; if somebody can tel me I’d be very happy to hear it. I think they are triangulating between what they think is public opinion in the likes of the Daily Mail and the commentariat in this country, but what they’ve got to do and what I want them to do - and I want Keir Starmer to be successful and I want him to be our next Prime Minister - is to get back in contact with working people. Working people are suffering; there’s really poor employment practices in this country, and many people are in vulnerable jobs with low pay and he has to come up with a programme that identifies himself and the Labour Party directly with those working people so they can get behind him and the trade union movement can get fully behind him’. 
 

Of course he does need to do that, but he also needs to win votes from elsewhere, from people who think different things. It’s quite the balancing act, and to achieve it he needs to do more than just get in contact with working people. We don’t have the same type of working class that we’ve always had and it requires something different. Or, at least, something additional. 

It's an impossible balancing act. Because I assume most people would say Corbyn did exactly what lynch is asking, yet the Tories took the red wall. It doesn't necessarily win the votes it should. 

[Duff Man]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

The one thing to come out of this so far is Mick Lynch has been fucking boss... 

 

 

A useful lesson, that will be studiously ignored.

[Gnasher]

12 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

A useful lesson, that will be studiously ignored.

As was Wales putting the Tories to the sword in recent elections. As was the left in France uniting to do very well in their elections Sunday 

 

English centrists are a funny bunch.

[Numero Veinticinco]

To be fair, they’ve got fuck all ok him and he has a clear objective; stick up for one set of people on one issue. Not quite so easy for politicians who are juggling everything and have every word thrown back at them. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

As was Wales putting the Tories to the sword in recent elections. As was the left in France uniting to do very well in their elections Sunday 

 

English centrists are a funny bunch.

Aye, it’s just the centrists. No push back from the left. They’re just sitting there, all pure, waiting to be liked by the centrists. A funny bunch indeed. 

[Bjornebye]

"You don't care about veterans then" was a personal favourite. 

[Gnasher]

 

 

 

[Duff Man]

19 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

As was Wales putting the Tories to the sword in recent elections. As was the left in France uniting to do very well in their elections Sunday 

 

English centrists are a funny bunch.

Bernie, too. He was one of the most popular politicians in the country and unequivocal in his support for union action. Motherfucker was turning up at strikes all the time.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Duff Man said:

Bernie, too. He was one of the most popular politicians in the country and unequivocal in his support for union action. Motherfucker was turning up at strikes all the time.

 

Would Bernie, Melenchon, Drakeford be welcomed into the current English shadow cabinet? 

[Duff Man]

31 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Would Bernie, Melenchon, Drakeford be welcomed into the current English shadow cabinet? 

Wouldn't count on it.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/21/labour-frontbenchers-likely-to-be-disciplined-for-joining-rail-pickets

[Gnasher]

I didn't realise Labour had seized power, Starmers done well.

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

12 hours ago, Duff Man said:

I've quite enjoyed Mick Lynch's media appearances, taking absolutely no shit at all from the hacks.

Should have his own thread. Should have his own show.

 

Spent yesterday cooking MCs like a pound of bacon.

 

 

He'll be an anti semite by the end of the week.

 

[Creator Supreme]

22 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I didn't realise Labour had seized power, Starmers done well.

 

 

 

 

I love the way they've circled and named them like being on the picket line is something to be ashamed of, they can hold their heads high this morning!

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Creator Supreme said:

I love the way they've circled and named them like being on the picket line is something to be ashamed of, they can hold their heads high this morning!

I thought it was nice of them to draw halos on them. 
 

 

[Gnasher]

Lucy Powell doing the rounds for Labour this morning with predictable results, excruciating. Emily Thornbury yesterday, first question from Channel 4 news, 'hello Emily has Keir Starmer gone on a witness protection programme?'

 

This imo is the line the Labour leader should be pushing,

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

13 hours ago, Duff Man said:

I've quite enjoyed Mick Lynch's media appearances, taking absolutely no shit at all from the hacks.

Between him and the RMT Twitter, they've knocked it out of the park this week.

[Numero Veinticinco]

7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Lucy Powell doing the rounds for Labour this morning with predictable results, excruciating. Emily Thornbury yesterday, first question from Channel 4 news, 'hello Emily has Keir Starmer gone on a witness protection programme?'

 

This imo is the line the Labour leader should be pushing,

 

 

 

 

Immediately opens you up to the ‘don’t you consider [X] to be a decent wage?’ question. 

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

I love the way they've circled and named them like being on the picket line is something to be ashamed of, they can hold their heads high this morning!

Even for the mail,that is truly jaw dropping. 

As if protesting about better pay is something to be ashamed of.

Poisonous fucking rag.

I bet you will find fuck all in there about the Tories ensuring those at the top get Even richer.

And if that guardian story is true starmer can fuck off aswell. 

Labour mps should have the right to support striking workers.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

54 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Immediately opens you up to the ‘don’t you consider [X] to be a decent wage?’ question. 

Shouldn't be too difficult to say something like "since the Tories came to power, real wages have shrunk on average by x% - a decent wage would be one that claws some of that back".

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Shouldn't be too difficult to say something like "since the Tories came to power, real wages have shrunk on average by x% - a decent wage would be one that claws some of that back".

It shouldn't, but it doesn't answer the actual question. You then get back 'yes, they have, but as some of the best paid... yadda yadda... why are these putting the lower paid at an inconv... yaaadddaaa'. It's a spiral downward when you've got double the amount of people against the strikes than for them. That is if you want their votes. I'm not saying it's the morally right thing, I'm saying I agree with Lynch when he said Labour are triangulating right now. They are, they absolutely are, and it sucks. Might it be the right way to do it in the end so that the gets in power and can actually do something about situations like this rather than just say the right thing and let them happen? Maybe, I think it's a hard call.