Keir Starmer

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

The numbers are fucking savage. 

Labour imo need to start thinking out of the box now. The article below is one step they should be considering carefully, another is standing down candidates in seats where they cannot beat the tory but another candidate can. Another is reaching out to all wings of the party and try to get some sort of coalition/unified fighting force to go into the next election. Another idea is exploring the Scottish referendum issue and possibly offering them devolution or a vote. 

[Gnasher]

More troubs 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/23/anger-as-starmer-intervenes-to-back-closures-at-popular-primrose-hill

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[Numero Veinticinco]

In what should have been an easy home run, I thought Starmer was terrible at PMQs today. I accept what people say about PMQs not really mattering to the man on the street, but if he can’t turn Cummings comments into a win, it’s not a great sign. 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

In what should have been an easy home run, I thought Starmer was terrible at PMQs today. I accept what people say about PMQs not really mattering to the man on the street, but if he can’t turn Cummings comments into a win, it’s not a great sign. 

When the PM isn't going to answer a single question and the speaker isn't going to make him then he's a bit stuck. There will be enough ammo in todays hearing and the public enquiry to hit them with down the line. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

15 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

When the PM isn't going to answer a single question and the speaker isn't going to make him then he's a bit stuck. There will be enough ammo in todays hearing and the public enquiry to hit them with down the line. 

Yeah, the way he gets away with blustery bullshit answers is pretty gross. ‘What time is it’, ‘the time has come that we recognise how great we are at getting on with things’. 
 

Cool. 

[Gnasher]

Wouldn't surprise me with this country tbh

 

 

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Starmer needs to tell his shadow cabinet to talk incessantly about Jeremy Corbyn, worked a treat so far.

[Gnasher]

On 22/05/2021 at 14:48, Duff Man said:

Christ, almost level-pegging in the 25-49 bracket, now.

Unfortunately the Asian vote seems to be drifting the same way which makes it more of a head scratch that in the week which should have been a home run for Labour (the report on tory islamifobia) that a few Labour shadow ministers talked yet again about Corbyn. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

If only they stopped talking about Corbyn, everyone would flock to Labour. 

[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

If only they stopped talking about Corbyn, everyone would flock to Labour. 

As I hinted in my above post if Labour mps spent less of their limited time on tv/radio talking about Corbyn and anti semitism they could have used that time attacking the Tories on something like Islamipobia.

 

It's becoming plain and obvious this apparent Labour party strategy of attacking all things Corbyn hasn't worked and is not going to work. 

[Gnasher]

33 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

If only they stopped talking about Corbyn, everyone would flock to Labour. 

The three big milestones that have affected Labour this past six months have been the vaccination program, Brexit and the ongoing Corbyn/anti semitism issue. 

 

Starmers policy on the first two is fairly sound (basically ignore it as the issue will fade) whilst his strategy on the Corbs issue is becoming a bit bizzare. He should take the same approach to Corbs as he has to Brexit and the Vac program ie fucking ignore it... how often does Boris Johnson and his team bring up Threasa May or David Cameron? 

[sir roger]

32 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Unfortunately the Asian vote seems to be drifting the same way which makes it more of a head scratch that in the week which should have been a home run for Labour (the report on tory islamifobia) that a few Labour shadow ministers talked yet again about Corbyn. 

Labour has made no real attempt to work with the massive proportion of Asian and Muslim voters who generally back the party , its interest in anti-racism appears to begin and end with anti-semitism. Lucky the many millions of Jewish voters will fill the gap.

[Gnasher]

2 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Labour has made no real attempt to work with the massive proportion of Asian and Muslim voters who generally back the party , its interest in anti-racism appears to begin and end with anti-semitism. Lucky the many millions of Jewish voters will fill the gap.

The main twitter voices (all previous lifelong Labour supporters of course, ie Lipman, Baddiel, Oberma, Riley, Barber etc) came out in force for Starmer at the Hartlepool/Council elections, not one of them came out in support of him.  This strategy of appeasement is basically a waste of time.

[sir roger]

Even before the Corbyn anti-semitism stuff I could never understand why so many Labour mp's were in the LFI. Obviously , they should agree with the two-state solution and stay even-handed in dealings with Israel and Palestine , but nominally as a socialist  why would you want to be 'Friends' with one of the most right wing governments in the world.

[Bjornebye]

27 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Even before the Corbyn anti-semitism stuff I could never understand why so many Labour mp's were in the LFI. Obviously , they should agree with the two-state solution and stay even-handed in dealings with Israel and Palestine , but nominally as a socialist  why would you want to be 'Friends' with one of the most right wing governments in the world.

Self preservation? 

[Gnasher]

45 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Self preservation? 

 

[sir roger]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Self preservation? 

 

18 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Just reading up on it and the oddity is it was a big thing with Blair but dipped under Milliband's leadership. It obviously snowballed  when Voldemort got voted in.

 

With referende to Gnasher's earlier post , it seems our supportive Jewish friends are after Jo Cox's sister now , which will obviously help.

 

Galloway now standing as an anti-Starmer candidate , and may take some leftist and brexit-labour voters.

[Gnasher]

7 minutes ago, sir roger said:

 

Just reading up on it and the oddity is it was a big thing with Blair but dipped under Milliband's leadership. It obviously snowballed  when Voldemort got voted in.

 

With referende to Gnasher's earlier post , it seems our supportive Jewish friends are after Jo Cox's sister now , which will obviously help.

 

Galloway now standing as an anti-Starmer candidate , and may take some leftist and brexit-labour voters.

Why are they after Jo Cox's sister?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Nice to see Galloway doing his bit for the Tories. The old left and the new left joining forces as the biggest asset to the Tories, seconded by only the Labour Party. 

[Strontium]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

The main twitter voices (all previous lifelong Labour supporters of course, ie Lipman, Baddiel, Oberma, Riley, Barber etc) came out in force for Starmer at the Hartlepool/Council elections, not one of them came out in support of him.  This strategy of appeasement is basically a waste of time.

 

Good to know that the only reason to oppose racism is if there is votes in it. Oh, and of course, "money".

[Gnasher]

9 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Good to know that the only reason to oppose racism is if there is votes in it. Oh, and of course, "money".

Some 'truth' in it would be nice.

[Gnasher]

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/batley-and-spen-by-election-winner

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