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3 minutes ago, Numero said:

Mind? I honestly couldn’t care less what you listen to. That singer and other  Corbyn sycophants are a bunch of Trump supporter-like cultists. They, like you did a post or two ago, try to equate Corbyn with Socialist. They are not. 

Well it's an easy bracket to lever people into, erm, you like this so you must be like them etc. In reality it's best to offer some substance of argument to the original claim, iie some semblance where the person accused is at the scene of the crime/issue being alleged would help. 

 

 Otherwise its difficult to equate the two with a degree of seriousness so it becomes the piss take that had unfolded above  

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Just now, Paulie Dangerously said:

Never has a government performed so poorly and been given such an easy time by the opposition. 

You want to put a tin hat on for saying that on here. How dare you!

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1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:


I would if I could find him, but he’s somewhat missing in action...


There he is, good lad.

 

Calling for full lock down.

 

Back to weeks of arguments on here!

 

Oh, the joy...

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17 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

You want to put a tin hat on for saying that on here. How dare you!

More strawmannery. 

 

Fair reasons to call out Starmer: Not performing well as leader of the opposition 

Unfair reasons to call out Starmer: Being a Sir, being secretly called Keith, not being Corbyn 

 

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Not as far as aid like over schools but he’s squeezed one out there, which is good. Lock everything down which isn’t essential. One month. And....

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4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

More strawmannery. 

 

Fair reasons to call out Starmer: Not performing well as leader of the opposition 

Unfair reasons to call out Starmer: Being a Sir, being secretly called Keith, not being Corbyn 

 

Er you brought Corbyn into this debate although he has pretty much zero to do with it. You just cant miss the chance for a free kick in the bollocks. Not a cult though.

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46 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

The Jimmy Cagney wannabe negs me  again without ever giving a rationale idea of what differential view to mine is in his head. Top of the world ma.

You're just so tiresome. You're all over politics threads being wrong in a very loud voice.

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11 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Er you brought Corbyn into this debate although he has pretty much zero to do with it. You just cant miss the chance for a free kick in the bollocks. Not a cult though.

You'd have a point if I hadn't actually written different words in completely different sentences.

 

I said Starmer got grief for not being Corbyn or Corbyn's heir by the people who are loyal to him, I don't dislike Corbyn at all, I think there's a place for him in British politics, I just don't want anyone who follows him fucking with Labour's election chances, my views on it are really that simple.

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1 minute ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

You're just so tiresome. You're all over politics threads being wrong in a very loud voice.

You forget to disclose in your own opinion ma, because it is your own opinion unless you now have alleviated yourself to some kind of pinnacle on this here forum, or are you one of these first class nut jobs who delve into and become their own persona? Want my opinion ma,  my opinion is I'm on top of the world ma. Fuck off and do one 

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7 minutes ago, Rocky Sullivan said:

You're just so tiresome. You're all over politics threads being wrong in a very loud voice.

Pointless engaging. Use the ignore function, makes the politics threads shorter.

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1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

You forget to disclose in your own opinion ma, because it is your own opinion unless you now have alleviated yourself to some kind of pinnacle on this here forum, or are you one of these first class nut jobs who delve into and become their own persona? Want my opinion ma,  my opinion is I'm on top of the world ma. Fuck off and do one 

Are you Yvette Cooper by any chance? 

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1 minute ago, Section_31 said:

You'd have a point if I hadn't actually written different words in completely different sentences.

 

I said Starmer got grief for not being Corbyn or Corbyn's heir by the people who are loyal to him, I don't dislike Corbyn at all, I think there's a place for him in British politics, I just don't want anyone who follows him fucking with Labour's election chances, my views on it are really that simple.

For some strange reason you brought  Jeremy Corbyn into a debate that wasnt about Jeremy Corbyn. It seemed the only reason you brought Jeremy Corbyn into a debate that had nothing at all to do with Jeremy Corbyn was because you may not be to fond of Jeremy Corbyn. It seems to the untrained eye that the reason you mention Jeremy Corbyn is because someone criticised Kier Starmer. I hope the above post shows how easy it is to mention/blame Jeremy Corbyn when Jeremy Corbyn has very little to do with a subject that doesn't concern Jeremy Corbyn and Jeremy Corbyn has not offered an opinion on.

 

Make of that what you will.

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1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

For some strange reason you brought  Jeremy Corbyn into a debate that wasnt about Jeremy Corbyn. It seemed the only reason you brought Jeremy Corbyn into a debate that had nothing at all to do with Jeremy Corbyn was because you may not be to fond of Jeremy Corbyn. It seems to the untrained eye that the reason you mention Jeremy Corbyn is because someone criticised Kier Starmer. I hope the above post shows how easy it is to mention/blame Jeremy Corbyn when Jeremy Corbyn has very little to do with a subject that doesn't concern Jeremy Corbyn and Jeremy Corbyn has not offered an opinion on.

 

Make of that what you will.

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9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

You'd have a point if I hadn't actually written different words in completely different sentences.

 

I said Starmer got grief for not being Corbyn or Corbyn's heir by the people who are loyal to him, I don't dislike Corbyn at all, I think there's a place for him in British politics, I just don't want anyone who follows him fucking with Labour's election chances, my views on it are really that simple.

 

The one thing I don't understand is that it was largely the same membership that voted in Starmer that voted in Corbyn, so there must be a lot of members that voted for both? 

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2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

It doeth upthear to thou thatt a defeneduthh ove onth St Jeremiah ov Corbain willeth  nott be eth toleration on thieth here site.   

 

I'd love to ride you.

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4 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

The one thing I don't understand is that it was largely the same membership that voted in Starmer that voted in Corbyn, so there must be a lot of members that voted for both? 

That's a fair point and I believe you are right and and awful lot of members who supported Corbyn voted and supported Starmer. 

 

I didn't have a vote as I'm not a member but I would probably have been one of these said people who supported Corbyn but voted Starmer. I still believe Starmer is our (when I say our i mean anti tory party, not something I'm going to subscribe to like a gratton catalogue) 

 

best chance of getting the tory incumbent out and as such I believe he deserves support although I believe his handling of the Corbyn situation has been a ridiculous over reaction which was neither warranted or needed. So there.

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Aside from using his own private army to oust the government in a bloody coup there is nothing of any consequence that Starmer can say or do to change the current situation. 

 

There is actually no point in Labour MPs attending any commons sitting, such is the futility of fighting an 80 seat majority who also control the levers of national media.  

 

If anything, their presence in the commons gives an air of respectability to proceedings but sadly they offer themselves up as cheap targets for witless and clumsy Tory banter when Ministers are faced with an awkward situation.  

 

They need to not be there.  Let the public see the charade for what it is, and let the public be under no illusions as to who are to blame. 

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