Keir Starmer

[Numero Veinticinco]

7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

This was rumbling in the week before the council elections, you'd have thought he'd be prepared for all possible scenarios and been ready to instantly react, but he's got there and done the right thing so good on him.

They didn’t announce they were investigating it until Friday though, so I don’t think he could really have said ‘if an investigation I don’t know about happens and that investigation fines me, then I’ll step down’, he reacted pretty much the best working day. I only raise it because it seems to be a thing on Twitter on the left with lots of people hammering him for it, when really it’s nothing. That said, I’m not sure they’re looking for sensible criticism, anything that works is what they’ll go with. 

[Manny]

The Tory press has typically been too greedy and overreached themselves on this. "Beergate" could have been a convenient little card to play here and there when "Partygate" rears its head occasionally. Not something that's a complete ace card as it was too easily batted away, but just something to muddy the waters a bit and stop Labour going all in on the Downing Street parties.

 

But they've managed to convince themselves that a great victory is in their grasp, that Starmer can be hoisted on a petard of his own hypocrisy so they've pushed this to the point of crystallisation, and all that's done is hand the initiative back to Labour. Like most I doubt Starmer has done this without some pretty secure knowledge that he's unlikely to meet the threshold for a FPN or worse, but effectively the Tory press have allowed him to look decisive (a common accusation at him), whilst also letting him either take the proven moral high ground if found to have broke no rules, or at the very worst damage Johnson on his way out if he did break them.

 

They've overplayed this because they're arrogant and are used to getting their own way with a minimum of effort. This needed a bit of thought but they couldn't fucking do it.

[skend04]

I think it's got lost in the reporting but apparently the youth that filmed Starmer is Ivo Delingpole. Son of James Delingpole. Contributor to Brietbart and columnist for upstanding print media such as The Daily Mail, The Telegraph and the Spectator amongst others. 

 

Allegedly he didn't want anyone to see the video so I'm not sure how half the country has now seen the video.

[Creator Supreme]

What kind of name is Ivo to give to your kid? Fucks sake!

[Gnasher]

55 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

They didn’t announce they were investigating it until Friday though, so I don’t think he could really have said ‘if an investigation I don’t know about happens and that investigation fines me, then I’ll step down’, he reacted pretty much the best working day. I only raise it because it seems to be a thing on Twitter on the left with lots of people hammering him for it, when really it’s nothing. That said, I’m not sure they’re looking for sensible criticism, anything that works is what they’ll go with. 

 

I'd have thought Starmer would have been prepared for all the possible scenarios regarding what action the police might or might not take and so would have issued a response within hours, the story had been gaining traction for days if not weeks.

[Gnasher]

Fair article thi imo. Amongst other things it points out how a lot of recently university educated people look down on those in traditional Labour heartlands and have little empthy or understanding of the problems they've been facing.

 

Not a criticism of Starmer just a general observation on a certain section of the country as a whole. The collective shrug and lack of enthusiasm when unemployment fell and certain low paid workers in sectors like hospitality and agriculture received wage rises recently was an obvious example.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/10/starmer-working-class-voters-labour-leader-brexit

[AngryOfTuebrook]

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[AngryOfTuebrook]

16 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

But, specialist counter terrorism units aside, the Met police deal with crimes in Greater London. I know London is big, but I don’t think it stretches to Durham. 

Dominic Cummings is currently regretting that he never tried that line of argument - "What are you on about? I never even left London."

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Fair article thi imo. Amongst other things it points out how a lot of recently university educated people look down on those in traditional Labour heartlands and have little empthy or understanding of the problems they've been facing.

 

Not a criticism of Starmer just a general observation on a certain section of the country as a whole. The collective shrug and lack of enthusiasm when unemployment fell and certain low paid workers in sectors like hospitality and agriculture received wage rises recently was an obvious example.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/10/starmer-working-class-voters-labour-leader-brexit

Labour and Manchester are both working class cities yet both have remained solidly Labour,so not all of the north have switched to the tories .

[Creator Supreme]

3 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Labour and Manchester are both working class cities yet both have remained solidly Labour,so not all of the north have switched to the tories .

Labour have their own city?

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Fair article thi imo. Amongst other things it points out how a lot of recently university educated people look down on those in traditional Labour heartlands and have little empthy or understanding of the problems they've been facing.

 

Not a criticism of Starmer just a general observation on a certain section of the country as a whole. The collective shrug and lack of enthusiasm when unemployment fell and certain low paid workers in sectors like hospitality and agriculture received wage rises recently was an obvious example.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/10/starmer-working-class-voters-labour-leader-brexit

I take issue with them being called 'working class' or talk of how Labour has 'lost the working class'. 

 

There's different facets of the working class. Plenty are in union jobs and/or would rather set themselves on fire than vote Tory. 

 

A lot of the vote went to Johnson for the same reason it went to Brexit, some kind of bizarre scorched Earth approach where they see him as some kind of agent of chaos, and that's seemingly what they want.

 

Michael Moore said when Trump was elected that he'd been coming for 20 years due to the right wing media talking about the 'Washington elite' or the Federal Government even being referred to as 'the beast' for fuck's sake. 

 

Same here. You'll hear Nick Ferrari and all these other gobshites talking about 'MPs' having snouts in the trough. Not the Tory MPs, but 'MPs'.

 

It's quite incredible that what seems to have happened, is the people who would previously have voted for Conservative movements have moved towards the centre, so Conservatism has replaced them with the disgruntled and broken working class - even though it was THEM that broke them in the first place.

 

You have to look with cynicism at the way our culture also encourages disinterest in things of importance, whether it's politics or reading an actual article in depth, or actively celebrates idiocy. Being seen to be an ignorant buffoon is actually seen as cool now in our celebrity culture. 

 

This is why it baffles me that some people don't believe people are being indoctrinated by the media. It's psyops, nothing less.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

Dan's lost the plot again, he's linking Starmer to the grassy knoll. Starmers been bumping people off.

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

5 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Dan's lost the plot again, he's linking Starmer to the grassy knoll. Starmers been bumping people off.

 

 

Have all the people who were on that trip died or disappeared! That should be headline news or have they just changed roles and are still easy to contact.

[skend04]

5 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Dan's lost the plot again, he's linking Starmer to the grassy knoll. Starmers been bumping people off.

 

 

Apart from the fact that Kennedy was shot in public. Hodges is a weapon, was his dad the dunce because he doesn't appear to be anything like his mum.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Don’t we need to change the thread title to “Should Stermer remain as the Labour Leader?” 
 

 

 

 

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, skend04 said:

Apart from the fact that Kennedy was shot in public. Hodges is a weapon, was his dad the dunce because he doesn't appear to be anything like his mum.

He's another talentless grifter. Being a Twitter bum is an actual career now. 'shocking' people with things you don't even believe is cash money. See Laurence Fox and Toby Young also. Not a brain cell or ounce of talent between them, but can smell clickbait like a fat truffle pig.

[Numero Veinticinco]

15 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

He's another talentless grifter. Being a Twitter bum is an actual career now. 'shocking' people with things you don't even believe is cash money. See Laurence Fox and Toby Young also. Not a brain cell or ounce of talent between them, but can smell clickbait like a fat truffle pig.

The one who gets me is that Rachael Swindon. Just taps into a certain group then asks for handouts for her family over twitter. 

[Gnasher]

56 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

He's another talentless grifter. Being a Twitter bum is an actual career now. 'shocking' people with things you don't even believe is cash money. See Laurence Fox and Toby Young also. Not a brain cell or ounce of talent between them, but can smell clickbait like a fat truffle pig.

Hodges is paid a shit load of cash to write shit for the Daily Mail, he's also over various TV stations earning a pretty penny spouting the same nonsense. 

[Gnasher]

43 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

The one who gets me is that Rachael Swindon. Just taps into a certain group then asks for handouts for her family over twitter. 

Never heard of her but I'm guessing unlike Hodges and Co she's left wing and I'm guessing she doesn't have the luxury of being paid by the main newspapers or TV channels.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Never heard of her but I'm guessing unlike Hodges and Co she's left wing and I'm guessing she doesn't have the luxury of being paid by the main newspapers or TV channels.

She’s a grifter. She’s a Corbynista to the extreme and posts all day in an effort to undermine Starmer, then posts how she’s doing it for her family and please send her money. I’m not sure why I’d want to pay her for Skwakbox retweets, but whatever. Takes all sorts. 

[Strontium]

3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

The one who gets me is that Rachael Swindon. Just taps into a certain group then asks for handouts for her family over twitter. 

 

Girl gotta pay her country club fees somehow. 

[sir roger]

4 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

Girl gotta pay her country club fees somehow. 

Maybe she’ll get shot in the head with any luck

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Maybe she’ll get shot in the head with any luck

 

Most random response, ever.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

The one who gets me is that Rachael Swindon. Just taps into a certain group then asks for handouts for her family over twitter. 

Didn’t she get called out for being a fraud?

 

Those like her, are all self proclaimed political commentators/analysts. When reality they are all chancers. 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Didn’t she get called out for being a fraud?

 

Those like her, are all self proclaimed political commentators/analysts. When reality they are all chancers. 

 

 

There was a bizarre misogynistic campaign to claim that her husband writes all her content.