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Keir Starmer


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2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Doubtless a lot of them looked at what the alternative was. People like Boris Johnson don't get elected in a vacuum.

Just to clarify. 

You are saying people voted in boris Johnson because there was no alternative?

When did we move to a 2 party state?

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6 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Just to clarify. 

You are saying people voted in boris Johnson because there was no alternative?

When did we move to a 2 party state?

 

We have always had a two party system. Our electoral system will tend to produce a two party system, as Duverger's law says it will.

 

Fortunately Starmer, unlike his predecessor, is sympathetic to the real democracy of a proportional system.

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30 minutes ago, Neil G said:

When has he said anything to this effect?

 

He made a comment in support of electoral reform last year. 

 

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-news-and-research/media-centre/press-releases/keir-starmer-announces-support-for-constitutional-convention-and-proportional-representation/

 

Worth noting that support for PR would already be Labour Party policy had the unions not killed the policy at conference.

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1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:


During his leadership campaign. We can take that to the bank then.

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2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

He made a comment in support of electoral reform last year. 

 

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/latest-news-and-research/media-centre/press-releases/keir-starmer-announces-support-for-constitutional-convention-and-proportional-representation/

 

Worth noting that support for PR would already be Labour Party policy had the unions not killed the policy at conference.

He made lots of comments last year. I wouldn't advise you to pin your hopes on him following through on any of them.

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3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

Oh yeah a completely relevant question 2 years after the election. Not an obsession with Corbyn and deflecting at all, none whatsoever. 

 

Oh and you're a troll for mentioning Corbyn on a thread that isn't the Corbyn thread. 

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52 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

He should have just said "Yeah, absolutely, because that also would have meant a Labour government and not the shower of cunts we have now". Or words to that effect.

That's literally all he had to say?

Isnt this fella supposed to be hugely intelligent?

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54 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

He should have just said "Yeah, absolutely, because that also would have meant a Labour government and not the shower of cunts we have now". Or words to that effect.

That's literally all he had to say?

Isnt this fella supposed to be hugely intelligent?

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55 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

He should have just said "Yeah, absolutely, because that also would have meant a Labour government and not the shower of cunts we have now". Or words to that effect.

Yep, it's really not that hard; he could have then listed every Johnson lie and broken promise. 

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2 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

That's literally all he had to say?

Isnt this fella supposed to be hugely intelligent?

Yeah but then it would have been spun that he is Pro-Corbyn and all the slander that will come with that. Corbyn (because of the lies they told about him) is a key weapon for the Tories. When they're up against it, out comes a Corbyn connection. Look at the headline today in the DM where Priti Patel has labelled the political wing of Hamas as terrorists. The headline is "Corbyn would now face 10 years in jail if he meets with his friend in Hamas" 

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3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah but then it would have been spun that he is Pro-Corbyn and all the slander that will come with that. Corbyn (because of the lies they told about him) is a key weapon for the Tories. When they're up against it, out comes a Corbyn connection. Look at the headline today in the DM where Priti Patel has labelled the political wing of Hamas as terrorists. The headline is "Corbyn would now face 10 years in jail if he meets with his friend in Hamas" 

You can't keep surrendering to spin and the readers of the daily mail, who nine out of ten are going to vote tory anyway. Labour with Corbyn as leader got 10 million people to vote for it at the last election, not enough granted but still a sizeable amount under the circumstances. For Starmer to even blink on a question of choosing between Johnson v Corbyn is fucking absurd.

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19 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah but then it would have been spun that he is Pro-Corbyn and all the slander that will come with that. Corbyn (because of the lies they told about him) is a key weapon for the Tories. When they're up against it, out comes a Corbyn connection. Look at the headline today in the DM where Priti Patel has labelled the political wing of Hamas as terrorists. The headline is "Corbyn would now face 10 years in jail if he meets with his friend in Hamas" 

That's why I was careful to say that it would have meant a Labour government rather than a Corbyn PM. I wish someone in Labour would grow some balls and call these fuckers out when they try their stupid gotcha journalism.

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