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Keir Starmer


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2 hours ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

He needs to pipe down and stop being a tit as well. It’s only him that’s arsed about it. 

 

He was laying into Starmer for not supporting Rayner over the recent abuse she's allegedly received. I think there was about 11 minutes between Rayner's tweet about it and Starmer's tweet in support of her. Bear in mind he has no idea what support Starmer has given Rayner away from Twitter. His problem is very much that his world essentially begins and ends with Twitter, and if it's not happening on Twitter, then for Owen, it's not really happening.

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5 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

He was laying into Starmer for not supporting Rayner over the recent abuse she's allegedly received. I think there was about 11 minutes between Rayner's tweet about it and Starmer's tweet in support of her. Bear in mind he has no idea what support Starmer has given Rayner away from Twitter. His problem is very much that his world essentially begins and ends with Twitter, and if it's not happening on Twitter, then for Owen, it's not really happening.

It's not even as if Starmer is a major Twitter user anyway. You barely get a tweet a day out of him (which is not necessarily a bad thing). If something happens, you don't expect Starmer's first instinct to be Twitter, so you don't read anything into it when he doesn't tweet.

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11 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:


Im going to guess…

 

Starners membership of the trilateral commission which makes him a deep state stooge/illuminate member*.

 

*delete has appropriate.

I think Spanner fully understands; its a Labour leader blocks the thoughts of left wing journalist. A Labour leader who has recently started writing columns for right wing newspapers ( The Sun ). A lot of right wing Labour Party members seem to embrace the Labour leader blocking left wing journalist whilst pretending no-one  is remotely interested in left wing journalists/twitter anyway.

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12 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

That "unite the party" project is going swimmingly.

 

 

He's doing his job, he's gutting the party of those left wing/Corbyn/anti Israel types. That's the goal and the goal is being achieved. Labour's rank and file members are irrelevant as is the next general election. Socialism must be slain.

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20 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

He's doing his job, he's gutting the party of those left wing/Corbyn/anti Israel types. That's the goal and the goal is being achieved. Labour's rank and file members are irrelevant as is the next general election. Socialism must be slain.

Yes, and if they're neck and neck with the Green Party in the polls by the end of 2022 so be it.

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3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

He's doing his job, he's gutting the party of those left wing/Corbyn/anti Israel types. That's the goal and the goal is being achieved. Labour's rank and file members are irrelevant as is the next general election. Socialism must be slain.

Who is anti Israel ????? People aren’t  anti Israel they are anti murdering cunts who hide behind the phrase “anti-Semite” whenever the idf get called out for their murderous racist regime. 

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I also think if you annoying the likes of the mail and the rag hou are doing something right, so I guess the fact that they see him as an irrelevance is telling.

The issue is if raynor or Burnham were in power would they.survive the daily onslaught that corbyn got?

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40 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I also think if you annoying the likes of the mail and the rag hou are doing something right, so I guess the fact that they see him as an irrelevance is telling.

The issue is if raynor or Burnham were in power would they.survive the daily onslaught that corbyn got?

Isn't our democracy wonderful!

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1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Who is anti Israel ????? People aren’t  anti Israel they are anti murdering cunts who hide behind the phrase “anti-Semite” whenever the idf get called out for their murderous racist regime. 


No, plenty of people on the left are opposed to the existence of the state of Israel full stop, and would still be even if the violence and occupation ended. 

 

They say Israel is a racist project as it grants any Jew in the world the right to live there while denying the same right to millions of exiled Palestinians whose families have lived there for centuries. Many of them argue for a binational state which protects the rights of Jews and Palestinians equally and isn’t based on one group being the majority of the population.

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20 minutes ago, Neil G said:


No, plenty of people on the left are opposed to the existence of the state of Israel full stop, and would still be even if the violence and occupation ended. 

 

They say Israel is a racist project as it grants any Jew in the world the right to live there while denying the same right to millions of exiled Palestinians whose families have lived there for centuries. Many of them argue for a binational state which protects the rights of Jews and Palestinians equally and isn’t based on one group being the majority of the population.

I don't know a single person who is opposed to Israel existing. Don't conflict opposing oppression with something entirely different because thats the tactic the liars use. 

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1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

I don't know a single person who is opposed to Israel existing. Don't conflict opposing oppression with something entirely different because thats the tactic the liars use. 

 

“I don’t know anyone who...” is rarely a winning argument Stig. For starters there are several posters on here, I can name Stringvest and Torahboy off the top of my head.

 

Lots of people on the left don’t think Israel should exist at all, that’s a fact. Most of them don’t advocate it being destroyed or the Jews being forced out, but they are opposed to its existence on the grounds that it’s an ethnostate which officially favours one ethnic group and discriminates against another.

 

I wasn’t even commenting on what’s happening with Labour, just pointing out a basic fact it would be useful for you to be aware of.

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2 minutes ago, Neil G said:

 

“I don’t know anyone who...” is rarely a winning argument Stig. For starters there are several posters on here, I can name Stringvest and Torahboy off the top of my head.

 

Lots of people on the left don’t think Israel should exist at all, that’s a fact. Most of them don’t advocate it being destroyed or the Jews being forced out, but they are opposed to its existence on the grounds that it’s an ethnostate which officially favours one ethnic group and discriminates against another.

 

I wasn’t even commenting on what’s happening with Labour, just pointing out a basic fact it would be useful for you to be aware of.

Ok Neil. 

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Ok Neil. 


What’s that supposed to mean? Are you genuinely saying you think everyone on the left accepts Israel’s right to exist?

 

I’m not trying to be provocative, there’s nothing wrong with supporting a binational state instead of a two-state solution. I genuinely don’t know where you’re coming from here though, you’re acting as if acknowledging what I’ve said is somehow surrendering ground to the anti-Corbyn / anti-left crowd.

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