Keir Starmer

[sir roger]

22 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

Dan Jarvis, Yvette Cooper and Ed Miliband among others would lose their seat if the swing was far less than in the Hartlepool early Survation polling. If the BXP votes goes Tory like it is looking in Hartlepool. Will the BXP be like a gateway drug for former Labour voters?. Very early days but not looking good. 

Be a pity for Ed , that.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Don’t tell me the GF is going to disappoint and not have the knowledge of pegging.

 

Gone to the dogs this place. Would have had its own thread back in the day. 

[Anubis]

Is this your way of announcing to the forum that your wife has pegged you?

[Duff Man]

Strong mid-noughties WKD ad energy to the last few pages.

[Bruce Spanner]

8 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Don’t tell me the GF is going to disappoint and not have the knowledge of pegging.

 

Gone to the dogs this place. Would have had its own thread back in the day. 

 

We've moved on to space docking now...

[Captain Howdy]

9 hours ago, RedKnight said:

Same old Labour. Always chasing itself in opposition.

They are completely unelectable, the leader can’t even do something as simple as visiting a church without the whole party ripping itself to pieces. I’ve honestly never seen anything like it, they are a complete fucking shambles.

[Duff Man]

1 hour ago, A Red said:

They say reformed smokers are the most vocal anti smokers. 

 

You were quite vocal about what activities and who you considered to be gay. Take superman for example -

 

Obviously when I said "gay" I was inferring he was a soft, mincey, spandex wearing twat. I don't really know which way he butters his bread to be honest but I'm willing to bet he drops anchor in poo bay. That's besides the point anyway. I just think he's lame.

 

Sure, that's definitely an example of what I'm talking about, and it's painful reading that back. I was 23 and clearly a clueless bell-end, prone to casual homophobia. What's your point?

[Neil G]

7 hours ago, Section_31 said:

While I agree with you Neil, doesn't it also show how fucked up the current situation is? The Labour leader has got to navigate a minefield of going to a church that's espoused anti LGBT views with the ensuing fallout set to tie him and everyone else involved up for days if not weeks, yet meanwhile the country is led by a man who once called gay people 'tank-topped bumboys'. It's almost like the playing field is not entirely level.

It’s not hard to navigate a minefield if all the mines are marked with big red flags. All Labour has to do to avoid situations like this is to google the name of any organisation they’re considering visiting or working with, together with the words controversy, racism, homophobia, antisemitism and any other terms linked with kinds of discrimination and bigotry. It’s a few minutes extra work to add to all the hours of prep that should go into any partnership or PR event - not a big ask for a professional outfit.

 

There are lots of areas where the Tory easy mode makes it an uphill struggle for Labour, but this needn’t be one of them.

[Neil G]

6 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Did LGBT+ Labour ever publicly criticise the last leader for, let's be honest, continual hobnobbing with people and states who are hostile to gay rights?

I don’t know, if they didn’t then they should have done. I’m sure that if he’d done it while he was leader, warmly endorsed the homophobes and then dragged his feet over publicly apologising, they’d have had something to say.

 

In any event, your efforts to delegitimise them don’t detract from the criticism of Starmer. Unless senior Labour politicians failing to adequately distance themselves from extremist views isn’t a Bad Thing any more.

[Neil G]

5 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

This is the Starmer thread, therefore a question about whether LGBT+ Labour are breaking with precedent by criticising Starmer publicly is completely relevant.

If you can provide a precedent for a serving Labour leader ignoring their requests for a public apology and deletion, we’ll be able to judge won’t we.

[Rico1304]

9 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Sure, that's definitely an example of what I'm talking about, and it's painful reading that back. I was 23 and clearly a clueless bell-end, prone to casual homophobia. What's your point?

Seeing as you are in your late 30’s now you’d think that you’d understand the butt of the joke in the ‘pushing back’ joke is the repressed ‘straight’ guy who tries to justify sex with a man that despite enjoying it he can’t be gay because (drum roll please) he didn’t push back. 

[Duff Man]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

Seeing as you are in your late 30’s now you’d think that you’d understand the butt of the joke in the ‘pushing back’ joke is the repressed ‘straight’ guy who tries to justify sex with a man that despite enjoying it he can’t be gay because (drum roll please) he didn’t push back. 

Pitiful.

[A Red]

21 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Sure, that's definitely an example of what I'm talking about, and it's painful reading that back. I was 23 and clearly a clueless bell-end, prone to casual homophobia. What's your point?

The fact that you were once homophobic and now you consider yourself not, making you quite quick to jump on it when you think you see it. Bit like the anti smoking ex smoker.

[Duff Man]

Just now, A Red said:

The fact that you were once homophobic and now you consider yourself not, making you quite quick to jump on it when you see it. Bit like the anti smoking ex smoker.

Yes a perfect simile. You are very smart.

[Rico1304]

9 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Pitiful.

Hey, I can’t understand it for you.  
 

 

[Duff Man]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

Hey, I can’t understand it for you.

You can barely understand anything. The connotations of that joke are well established and understood, and your google-sourced equivocation doesn't change that.

[A Red]

6 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Yes a perfect simile. You are very smart.

Thats very kind, thank you. You've grown up a fair bit.

[Rico1304]

11 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

You can barely understand anything. The connotations of that joke are well established and understood, and your google-sourced equivocation doesn't change that.

I’ve not googled anything, it’s just the way the joke has always been used.  
 

Look I’m sorry that when you were a homophobic cunt I was dancing the night away in Heaven and Paradise.  

[Duff Man]

7 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’ve not googled anything, it’s just the way the joke has always been used.  
 

Look I’m sorry that when you were a homophobic cunt I was dancing the night away in Heaven and Paradise.  

Yeah sure, and so confident were you in its positive message for the gay community, you immediately articulated that rather than searching through all my old posts.

 

And again, it absolutely isn't the way that joke's always been used. At all.

[Denny Crane]

1 hour ago, Duff Man said:

If I had to bet, I'd put money on Labour holding, but yeah the polls are pretty eye-opening.

I thought about putting a few quid on Labour but seeing UKIP getting 28% in 2015 spooked me out. If I was the Conservative candidate I'd just post a pic of Starmer waving an EU flag and a pic of Macron. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Grace is unimpressed.

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/04/keir-starmers-first-year-has-been-a-disaster-for-progressives?fbclid=IwAR3Kv9NSKK6eE7xlm8jODlt322eovpGBR0VZE9z0XNrl3bV7brfgy_CRlhc

 

In reality, Starmer has no one to blame for his first year as leader of the opposition but himself. He has alienated socialists by waging a campaign against the Left and suspending Jeremy Corbyn from the party, while simultaneously losing liberals by refusing to oppose one of the most corrupt and authoritarian governments in living memory.

[Rico1304]

10 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Yeah sure, and so confident were you in its positive message for the gay community, you immediately articulated that rather than searching through all my old posts.

 

And again, it absolutely isn't the way that joke's always been used. At all.

Oh, I searched it straight away.  You know how when you are accused of something you think ‘hold on, who’s this cunt?’ So that’s what I did, glass houses and all that. 

[Duff Man]

4 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

I thought about putting a few quid on Labour but seeing UKIP getting 28% in 2015 spooked me out. If I was the Conservative candidate I'd just post a pic of Starmer waving an EU flag and a pic of Macron. 

An ardent remainer certainly doesn't seem like the best candidate, on the face of it.

[Duff Man]

1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Oh, I searched it straight away.  You know how when you are accused of something you think ‘hold on, who’s this cunt?’ So that’s what I did, glass houses and all that. 

Uh-huh. And do tell how the threat of gay sex as an intimidation tactic also has no negative connotations

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 hour ago, Anubis said:

Is this your way of announcing to the forum that your wife has pegged you?

A gentleman never tells.