Keir Starmer

[Gnasher]

36 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Thinking about the reaction to this though and it kind of shows Starmer's (or any new leader's) dilemma. Has there been a labour leader in modern times with so many people personally devoted to him? If Ed Miliband, Brown or dare I say it - Blair been suspended by their successor, would the fallout have been anywhere near as ferocious?

 

It's almost a party within a party. People who are personally loyal to one man. The only leaders they would have accepted would be Abbott, McDonnell or RLB. 

But thats simply not true,  up until now they did seem to accept Starmer. It was Starmer that sacked long Bailey and has now thrown out Corbyn. Compared to years gone by the left has been very quiet, not sure after today though.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

While I share your belief, only time will tell. 

 

But, I do find it strange that people who go on about the cult of Corbyn etc, etc now seem to be cocksure that the cult members will, in the future, happily vote for a party lead by the man who tried to kick out their dear spiritual leader. 

Who is cocksure about the cult members voting for Starmer? I think it’s more of a case that those cult members are a very vocal minority that doesn’t have the power to chose who wins the election. If they are, they should have chosen Corbyn last time. 

[Bruce Spanner]

 

1 minute ago, Anubis said:

Spanner by name, spanner by nature.

What the fuck I done? 

[Jairzinho]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

I expected worse in all honesty.

Give it time.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

What the fuck I done? 

Something something nuts, something something bolts. Something something screwed! 

[Gnasher]

26 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

Always good to get Luke's point of view on things.

I' ll pass on that.

[Rico1304]

What’s with all this “party within a party” stuff? Who’s giving it momentum? 

[Red Phoenix]

Twitter had better be careful, they had Zionist trending.

 

But don't worry, once I clicked on the trend and started reading tweets it'd already disappeared from the list.

 

Anyway, about antisemitism in the Labour Party...

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Red Phoenix said:

Twitter had better be careful, they had Zionst trending.

 

But don't worry, once I clicked on the trend and started reading tweets it'd already disappeared from the list.

 

Anyway, about antisemitism in the Labour Party...

You seem to be making a point here? 

[Megadrive Man]

18 minutes ago, The Guest said:

I think some people are going to be in for a massive shock when Starmer reveals his hand in a few years and loses by a fucking landslide regardless of how this Corbyn situation plays out.

 

The Labour party have alienated the Scots and the working class, and now seem set on alienating the Youth, student, socialist vote. 

 

Who the fuck is going to vote for them?

 

[Jairzinho]

2 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

The Labour party have alienated the Scots and the working class, and now seem set on alienating the Youth, student, socialist vote. 

 

Who the fuck is going to vote for them?

 

Floating voters in the marginals.

 

That, presumably, is the plan.

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

You seem to be making a point here? 

 

Mainly about twitter because I think they manipulate the trends. Was going on about the same thing in the coronavirus thread the other day.

[Gnasher]

 I think Starmers made a fucking howler of that today, up until now hes been fairly safe. He's got a shitstorm heading his way and it could have been avoided. 

 

The Tories ain't going to forget this or the fact he was happy to serve under Corbyn. Here we go, heres the first cunt out of the blocks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Floating voters in the marginals.

 

That, presumably, is the plan.

Or the entire north that was lost at the last election where Labour were decimated, maybe claw some of that back for a start.

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Indeed, might as well long him up for pre-crimes, the warmongering CUNT.

 

In other news, he has pledged to introduce a Prevention of Military Intervention Act to prevent illegal wars and put human rights at the heart of foreign policy. 
 

This is one of the worst cases of ‘did something to somebody I like so must be bad’ I’ve seen in a while. 
 

Enjoy your game. 

 

Was going to quote this along with the last quote I responded to in one message but again I can't get the html to copy/paste/edit. If I click on code now I get an empty box showing up. Wasn't there a simple html button before to show it? Maybe it's only if you're a paid member or it's just broken at the moment.

 

I didn't say anything about pre-crimes or what he's pledged either. Didn't he say he was after party unity too? Don't think that's working out so well at the moment for obvious reasons.

 

And thanks, the game seems cool so far, the London they've created looks awesome too. I guess I'll end up messing around in it with a team of npc's I get together and not really caring about the main story but might still have some fun for a while doing that. At least I hope I do after spending 50 quid on it.

[Jairzinho]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Or the entire north that was lost at the last election where Labour were decimated, maybe claw some of that back for a start.

It seems less likely.

[Megadrive Man]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 I think Starmers made a fucking howler of that today, up until now hes been fairly safe. He's got a shitstorm heading his way and it could have been avoided. 

 

The Tories ain't going to forget this or the fact he was happy to serve under Corbyn. Here we go, heres the first cunt out of the blocks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

Imagine allowing Michael Gove to take the moral high ground! 

[skend04]

13 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

The Labour party have alienated the Scots and the working class, and now seem set on alienating the Youth, student, socialist vote. 

 

Who the fuck is going to vote for them?

 

I can't believe the students that helped Labour win the last 2 elections won't vote for Starmer. We need to keep the Tories out of government. Starmer out!

[clockspeed]

15 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

But thats simply not true,  up until now they did seem to accept Starmer. It was Starmer that sacked long Bailey and has now thrown out Corbyn. Compared to years gone by the left has been very quiet, not sure after today though.

Long Bailey and Corbyn would still be in respective positions if they had just shut the fuck up. More over they would have been  brilliant at attacking an inept racist elitist government if they had stopped concentrating on defending positions they were never going to win. Were is their big picture thinking every labour MP right left or center has one objective get the conservatives out. Bit like this thread only thinking about themselves and what reputation they have lost . I have had my fill of it. Maybe Starmer is not the man fuck knows who is but tell you what let's keep the anti semetic Corbyn and right leaning undercover conservative Starmer narrative/argument going while the country crashes and burns and millions suffer at the hands of the elitist overlords. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

He has failed to unite the party.

Fucking hell, man! He has been there for six months. Any suggestion he should or could have United the party is actually beyond ridicule. How? Answer that question and you’ve got my vote. How, in six months after inheriting a party waiting for a report on antisemitism, that is more divided than at any point in generations, was he meant to unite the party in six months? Not what he shouldn’t do, but what he should have done that would have United the party by now.  

 

First step is cleaning up the mess he inherited. We now know that mess is unlawful discrimination and political interference. He drew a line in the sand for everyone to see and anybody who crosses it will meet the same fate. That’s not partisanship or forcing the left out or any other brainless claim that has been made today, it’s taking back control. That’s the second step to uniting. 
 

Corbyn faced a report today that found the LOTO office unlawfully politically interfered and discriminated. Not one word of remorse. Under his leadership that happened and he chose to belittle the report and not to apologise.

 

The third step is painting the picture of the future and selling that well enough to the party and the country. 

He has, in my view, shown proper leadership today. He faces this report, he met it head on with solutions, he apologised, and it allows the party to move on. Now Corbyn reacted disgracefully, and has been dealt with. This isn’t bad leadership, it’s leadership. Something the Labour Party hasn’t seen for a long time. 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

Yeah, fuck you students.

[Numero Veinticinco]

12 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Mainly about twitter because I think they manipulate the trends. Was going on about the same thing in the coronavirus thread the other day.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarity. I wouldn’t put anything past Twitter. 

[Bruce Spanner]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

Yeah, fuck you students.

They’ll be the unemployed by the next election.

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, MegadriveMan said:

Agreed.

 

Imagine allowing Michael Gove to take the moral high ground! 

 

One of those moments where I'd love to make an account just to tell someone to fuck off. Baron Adonis has been at it today as well and I had the same urge, another twat that loves trolling.

[clockspeed]

10 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 I think Starmers made a fucking howler of that today, up until now hes been fairly safe. He's got a shitstorm heading his way and it could have been avoided. 

 

The Tories ain't going to forget this or the fact he was happy to serve under Corbyn. Here we go, heres the first cunt out of the blocks 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Genuine question. Faced with the findings of the report Starmer apologized on behalf of the Labour party. What should he have done ?