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Keir Starmer


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4 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I understand why people get despondent when they're looking for a genuine socialist option, and why people take their votes elsewhere. I've voted for non Labour candidates in council elections on occasion because I felt the incumbent was shite. But nationally, it is and always has been a two party state, even  that is hanging by a thread. 

 

In terms of national politics, you're either helping the Tories or hindering them. By playing into the constant narrative online of 'Labour at war' you're helping the Tories IMO, it's as simple as that. Sadly I think a lot of people out there aren't doing it for genuine reasons either, merely that they found a niche online as Corbyn outriders and are fearful of losing their followers, so stick the boot in regardless now. 

 

Tony Blair and New Labour were never in a million years as bad as any of the Tory governments we had before or since, not even a faction, but you'd never think that judging by a lot of the stuff these people churn out. 

Domestically Blair was superb, foreign policy not so much.

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4 hours ago, sir roger said:

I have voted Labour in every election for the 42 years I have been eligible and that won't change , and I suspect when push comes to shove most left leaning members will as well , but what you two seem to be disregarding is that there is bound to be ill-feeling when the supporters of Corbyns leadership are being patronised and held to different standards by people who constantly worked totally at odds with this advice that 'any Labour leader us better than a tory ' when it suited them.

In fairness prior to being elected leader Corbyn did nothing but agitate against the party leadership, it’s who he was so it’s a bit rich for him to then expect loyalty.

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2 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Fucking hell you seem angrier about him being compared to Hodgson than Hitler.

You seem to be making a point? I absolutely prefer Adolf to Woy. 
 

Reading it back it could be taken as angry but I was meaning it in the ol’ ‘down the pub’ gag way. To be fair, I’d liken Corbyn to Woy, so probably wind a few up with that. 

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It is getting bad, I feel the need to defend Starmer. 

 

Do people not understand nuance ? (Not sure I can spell it) Saying I support the government during a pandemic should not be controversial, don't want to be accused of trying to make political gain from this. 

By the same token, saying open schools when it is safe, then condemning the government for not putting measures in place to make it safe, is not Captain Hindsight when it all goes to shit. 

 

 

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