Keir Starmer

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Hearing he just called Johnson a cunt and said he'd kick crap out of him after next week's PMQs. Nice to see some spirit.

Just to get up mid-Johnson speak, lean on the dispatch box, and shout 'fuck off, you fat cunt. Brush your fucking hair... I'm ahead in the fucking polls' then sit back down laughing his fucking head off would be... worth another 5 years of Boris the bullet dodger. 

[Bjornebye]

"Only one question this week mr Speakaaar!!!!! Oy soft ollies, can your bit on the side play Scatman on the violin?" 

[sir roger]

3 hours ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Just to get up mid-Johnson speak, lean on the dispatch box, and shout 'fuck off, you fat cunt. Brush your fucking hair... I'm ahead in the fucking polls' then sit back down laughing his fucking head off would be... worth another 5 years of Boris the bullet dodger. 

Or just start pissing on the floor in front of the despatch box, whistling, while Johnson is sluttering on.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, sir roger said:

Or just start pissing on the floor in front of the despatch box, whistling, while Johnson is sluttering on.

Does a shit in his own hand and slaps it into Johnson's face. Probably the most serious politics government has done in many a year. 

[Rico1304]

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/yougov-polling-on-labour-keir-starmer-141480

[Bruce Spanner]

6 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/yougov-polling-on-labour-keir-starmer-141480

You’re well voting for him, ain’t you, Rico?

[Rico1304]

8 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

You’re well voting for him, ain’t you, Rico?

I’ve always said I like him.  Call me an early adopter. Voted LD this time, the Tories are fucking useless and it may benefit me more this time to vote Labour. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’ve always said I like him.  Call me an early adopter. Voted LD this time, the Tories are fucking useless and it may benefit me more this time to vote Labour. 

I wish you’d take a wider view on what benefits you than taxes or whatever. There are different markers of what’s better for you, and the Tory version is, as you seem to have learned, a fucking con. 

[Section_31]

3 hours ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

I wish you’d take a wider view on what benefits you than taxes or whatever. There are different markers of what’s better for you, and the Tory version is, as you seem to have learned, a fucking con. 

I just never understand why people vote Tory, I mean I genuinely don't understand it. 

 

If you grew up in the 80s you remember dole queues, homelessness, collapsing infrastructure.

 

When Cameron got in in 2010 any of us who'd lived through it last time must have been filled with dread about what would come. And sure enough we were treated to an austerity bukake fest.

 

When a Tory votes Tory and the Tories get in, what do they feel? 

 

When Blair got in I felt optimism because I knew labour would build, spend money on the NHS and the rest. 

 

When the Tories get in, what optimism do even their most ardent supporters feel? What do they think is going to happen? Or is it all purely about their own tax rates? It can't be that simple surely?

[Numero Veinticinco]

29 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I just never understand why people vote Tory, I mean I genuinely don't understand it. 

 

If you grew up in the 80s you remember dole queues, homelessness, collapsing infrastructure.

 

When Cameron got in in 2010 any of us who'd lived through it last time must have been filled with dread about what would come. And sure enough we were treated to an austerity bukake fest.

 

When a Tory votes Tory and the Tories get in, what do they feel? 

 

When Blair got in I felt optimism because I knew labour would build, spend money on the NHS and the rest. 

 

When the Tories get in, what optimism do even their most ardent supporters feel? What do they think is going to happen? Or is it all purely about their own tax rates? It can't be that simple surely?

I think they buy the bullshit. I think they believe they’re the party of law and order and a party of sensible economics. The truth is they’re a party of small state, small taxes; ya pay less (or not), we get less. I think they believe they’re the party that’ll support the troops and bring social justice in the form of benefits being taken away from oiks. Truth is, they’re the party of the few, and not even the Ricos, and they are in it for themselves and their donors. They’re the anti-Robin Hood. Fuck them and fuck their cunt voters. They voted in because they are in league with election winners. 
 

Eton/Clone

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[Rushies tash]

27 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I just never understand why people vote Tory, I mean I genuinely don't understand it. 

 

If you grew up in the 80s you remember dole queues, homelessness, collapsing infrastructure.

 

When Cameron got in in 2010 any of us who'd lived through it last time must have been filled with dread about what would come. And sure enough we were treated to an austerity bukake fest.

 

When a Tory votes Tory and the Tories get in, what do they feel? 

 

When Blair got in I felt optimism because I knew labour would build, spend money on the NHS and the rest. 

 

When the Tories get in, what optimism do even their most ardent supporters feel? What do they think is going to happen? Or is it all purely about their own tax rates? It can't be that simple surely?

I think it is that simple. It's a massive "fuck you" to anyone who isn't them. They'll justify it to themselves with shite about scroungers and wealth creators, but essentially it's because they couldn't give two fucks about anything beyond their own front door (apart from the fear that some bogeyman is going to come along and take it all away). Funny thing is, the current crisis has them all screaming for socialism and bail outs. Cunts.

[Mudface]

I did feel Schadenfreude when the initial furlough scheme kicked in and there were people complaining to the Mail that their mortgage and outgoings meant they couldn't live on the maximum amount available (£25K was it?) and it wasn't their fault that this was happening. Well, now you know how millions have felt over the years when their livelihoods were stripped away because of Tory ideology and they were then demonised for having to rely on handouts or for having kids dependent on benefits.

[Mudface]

Also, there was a report in the Guardian yesterday that hundreds of thousands have been denied Universal Credit as they either had a partner working or their saving were over the £16K threshold. A number were quoted saying they were shocked at how little is actually available, and how perverse it is that people who don't save get the full amount while they had to run down inheritances and savings for deposits. Maybe people will finally realise that benefits aren't a gravy train or even a safety net, they're used to punish.

[Section_31]

9 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I did feel Schadenfreude when the initial furlough scheme kicked in and there were people complaining to the Mail that their mortgage and outgoings meant they couldn't live on the maximum amount available (£25K was it?) and it wasn't their fault that this was happening. Well, now you know how millions have felt over the years when their livelihoods were stripped away because of Tory ideology and they were then demonised for having to rely on handouts or for having kids dependent on benefits.

 

Yeah, a lot of these people don't value the state until they need it. Same when these people down south get flooded and start demanding the army come in and put some sandbags down. According to their philosophy I should begrudge my hard earned tax dollars being spent on that because I live on a hill. But I don't because I'm not an arsehole.

 

The idea that it's every man for himself is all well and good until you realise the people espousing this social darwinism have often never done a real day's work in their lives and have had everything handed to them on a plate. Connections got them jobs, mum and dad pick up the tab when times are tough.

[Bruce Spanner]

4 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Also, there was a report in the Guardian yesterday that hundreds of thousands have been denied Universal Credit as they either had a partner working or their saving were over the £16K threshold. A number were quoted saying they were shocked at how little is actually available, and how perverse it is that people who don't save get the full amount while they had to run down inheritances and savings for deposits. Maybe people will finally realise that benefits aren't a gravy train or even a safety net, they're used to punish.

There’s also a really precarious storm coming in that these new claimants would not be eligible free school meals as their previous earning will be taken in to the calculation.

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I did feel Schadenfreude when the initial furlough scheme kicked in and there were people complaining to the Mail that their mortgage and outgoings meant they couldn't live on the maximum amount available (£25K was it?) and it wasn't their fault that this was happening. Well, now you know how millions have felt over the years when their livelihoods were stripped away because of Tory ideology and they were then demonised for having to rely on handouts or for having kids dependent on benefits.

The crazy thing is that people in families with both adults working assume that the Tories must be for them. If you have any aspiration then it’s the Tories, if you’re a poor-chavvy scumbag then it’s Labour who keep you there, drip-fed by the state. Labour need to win back the working people. If you don’t own a multiple million pound business, fuck the Tories off. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

51 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I just never understand why people vote Tory, I mean I genuinely don't understand it. 

 

If you grew up in the 80s you remember dole queues, homelessness, collapsing infrastructure.

 

When Cameron got in in 2010 any of us who'd lived through it last time must have been filled with dread about what would come. And sure enough we were treated to an austerity bukake fest.

 

When a Tory votes Tory and the Tories get in, what do they feel? 

 

When Blair got in I felt optimism because I knew labour would build, spend money on the NHS and the rest. 

 

When the Tories get in, what optimism do even their most ardent supporters feel? What do they think is going to happen? Or is it all purely about their own tax rates? It can't be that simple surely?

I've got a feeling some people are going to think they've been in a time machine in a few months time.

[Mudface]

Just now, Nummer Neunzehn said:

The crazy thing is that people in families with both adults working assume that the Tories must be for them. If you have any aspiration then it’s the Tories, if you’re a poor-chavvy scumbag then it’s Labour who keep you there, drip-fed by the state. Labour need to win back the working people. If you don’t own a multiple million pound business, fuck the Tories off. 

Well, quite. The Tories aren't even for millionaires or aspiring businessmen. They're for keeping the money flowing to the very, very top, while allowing enough crumbs to fall to fool people that they too can get on.

 

I'm also convinced the Cummings affair was used to drive a wedge between people, in true Tory divide and conquer style- he didn't mean to be found out, but once he was they grasped the opportunity. Before that, people were generally glad to work together in a common endeavour, belatedly recognising that most of the actual important jobs that keep things running were done by workers on precarious contracts and in poorly paid conditions. That horrible cunt then blows everything up and makes it abundantly clear that rules are for mugs, and you might as well just do what you want as there'll be no consequences if you're powerful enough.

[Strontium]

4 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

I’ve always said I like him.  Call me an early adopter. Voted LD this time, the Tories are fucking useless and it may benefit me more this time to vote Labour. 

 

Not in Hazel Grove it won't, they're a very distant third.

[Rico1304]

44 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Not in Hazel Grove it won't, they're a very distant third.

Hence why I went LD.  But Wragg is so fucking hopeless and getting a lot of stick it may be different in 4 years.  

[Vincent Vega]

1 hour ago, Mudface said:

Well, quite. The Tories aren't even for millionaires or aspiring businessmen. They're for keeping the money flowing to the very, very top, while allowing enough crumbs to fall to fool people that they too can get on.

A business woman who sees exactly that.

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

A business woman who sees exactly that.

 

I’m in. 

[Mudface]

6 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

A business woman who sees exactly that.

 

Exactly- is she off Dragon's Den? I recognise the name. I'd add rentiers to that too. 

[Vincent Vega]

1 minute ago, Mudface said:

Exactly- is she off Dragon's Den? I recognise the name. I'd add rentiers to that too. 

Yeah that’s her mate. She speaks a fair amount of sense on Twitter, sees exactly how idiotic Brexit is.

[Section_31]

9 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

A business woman who sees exactly that.

 

 

They're the party of patriots that puts the sons of KGB agents in the house of Lords, the party of the armed forces that spent the early stages of the war trying to shaft Churchill and do a separate peace with the nazis and built aircraft carriers with no money for planes, the party of law and order that cut policing to the bone and sold off the probation service, the party of business that's headed for a no deal Brexit.

 

Basically if you fall for the shite they peddle despite the overwhelming evidence of your eyes and ears you're a grade A spastic and deserve your fate.