Keir Starmer

[sir roger]

56 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

He's sacked an MP from a PPS role tonight because she voted against a bill which introduced immunity for UK national perpetrators of war crimes. 

 

Go Kier! 

Its OK,  they only get immunity if they kill people abroad. Nice touch announcing the 3 pps were sacked on Guido before telling them

[Strontium]

Those three deserve everything they get for voting with the Lib Dems. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Three MPs – Beth Winter, Nadia Whittome and Olivia Blake – have resigned their roles as Shadow PPSs after voting against the government’s Overseas Operation Bill, against the party whip to abstain. Will the last Corbynista to leave the shadow front bench please turn the light off…

Nadia Whittome has told Peston she doesn’t consider herself resigned as it was a one-line whip, however a Labour spokesperson tells Guido all three are definitely gone as PPSs. Trust a Corbynista to not even resign properly…

 

https://order-order.com/

[Numero Veinticinco]

Labour MPs quit Keir Starmer's team to vote against bill condemned by Jeremy Corbyn

Three MPs who held junior roles supporting the Shadow Front Bench quit over the Overseas Operations bill - which the government say is intended to shield soldiers from prosecution

 

Three Labour MPs have resigned from junior roles supporting Keir Starmer's front bench after they broke the whip to vote against a bill condemned by former leader Jeremy Corbyn.

They voted against the Overseas Operations bill, which the Government says aims to shield British soldiers from prosecution.

Labour MPs were ordered to abstain on the vote for the bill's second reading.

Beth Winter, Nadia Whittome and Olivia Blake are understood to have been informed that if they voted against the Bill they would be resigning their roles.

All three of the MPs are members of the party's left who have been vocal in their opposition to the bill.

Beth Winter served as a Parliamentary Private Secretary (PPS) to Shadow Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster Rachel Reeves.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

How long until we see the return of the "Control Immigration" mugs?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Misstep from Starmer to abstain. It invites criticism from both sides: it gives hard of thinking idiots who think the bill (they’ve not read) gives carte Blanche for torture room to spew about it on twitter, and it gives the right room to crow how Labour don’t support the troops. Considering it wouldn’t have made a difference to the outcome, a side should have been picked. 

[Scooby Dudek]

2 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Misstep from Starmer to abstain. It invites criticism from both sides: it gives hard of thinking idiots who think the bill (they’ve not read) gives carte Blanche for torture room to spew about it on twitter, and it gives the right room to crow how Labour don’t support the troops. Considering it wouldn’t have made a difference to the outcome, a side should have been picked. 

Isn't this the point, not a dig, Labours agenda at the moment is to not have a position on anything controversial, so abstaining on the second reading makes sense as the bill will come back to the house, so take a position then.

Contradictory for the same reason, I believe people strongly opposed to the bill should have been allowed to vote against without being sacked.

[Numero Veinticinco]

9 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

Isn't this the point, not a dig, Labours agenda at the moment is to not have a position on anything controversial, so abstaining on the second reading makes sense as the bill will come back to the house, so take a position then.

Contradictory for the same reason, I believe people strongly opposed to the bill should have been allowed to vote against without being sacked.

I guess it’s a delay but it doesn’t avoid being controversial. I don’t have an issue with those three being removed, they know what they were doing. 

[Scooby Dudek]

7 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

I guess it’s a delay but it doesn’t avoid being controversial. I don’t have an issue with those three being removed, they know what they were doing. 

I think it is wrong to remove people who have an opinion on a bill you are abstaining on. If Labour are voting for/against and expect the same then fine but not on an abstaining tactic.

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

I think it is wrong to remove people who have an opinion on a bill you are abstaining on. If Labour are voting for/against and expect the same then fine but not on an abstaining tactic.

Fair enough. I think if you defy the whip then you’re going to be removed from any front-bench tomfoolery. They’re no longer PPS. Not the end of the world. 

[Dicko]

Cunts trick by Starmer that.

To publicly humiliate the girl by leaking her sacking to that fat drink driving nonce and not tell her before her interview with Peston is just vindictive shite.

All in the same week the words of a murderer of a Labour MP become a party slogan.

 

What a time to be alive.

[mattyq]

6 minutes ago, Dicko said:

Cunts trick by Starmer that.

To publicly humiliate the girl by leaking her sacking to that fat drink driving nonce and not tell her before her interview with Peston is just vindictive shite.

All in the same week the words of a murderer of a Labour MP become a party slogan.

 

What a time to be alive.

I'm inclined to agree.

Not handled well and Labour shouldn't be abstaining on this Bill

[Gnasher]

If Corbyn did this the parliamentary labour party would be up in arms,  Starmer is in danger of throwing the baby out with the bath water,

 

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/nadia-whittome-sacked-peston-show-093730045.html

[Numero Veinticinco]

1) Take front bench PPS position

2) Defy the whip

3) Pretend not to know what would happen

 

Almost like it was planned. If they were truly ignorant, they’re too stupid to act as PPS. 
 

In one of their statements they said it was a difficult decision to break the whip (showing she knew what she was doing) because it ‘effectively decriminalises torture’. No. Just no. 

[Duff Man]

Why the fuck are spokespeople talking to that fash cunt Guido? I mean for fuck sake

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Duff Man said:

Why the fuck are spokespeople talking to that fash cunt Guido? I mean for fuck sake

Did they? Didn’t anything other than what he posted on the site which mentions Peston. 

[Duff Man]

2 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Did they? Didn’t anything other than what he posted on the site which mentions Peston. 

I'm not clicking on that arsehole's site, but Guido tweeted out that the resignations were confirmed to him by a Labour spokesperson

[Dicko]

33 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

1) Take front bench PPS position

2) Defy the whip

3) Pretend not to know what would happen

 

Almost like it was planned. If they were truly ignorant, they’re too stupid to act as PPS. 
 

In one of their statements they said it was a difficult decision to break the whip (showing she knew what she was doing) because it ‘effectively decriminalises torture’. No. Just no. 

Labour originally opposed the bill, then abstained.

She isn't on the front bench she had a junior role supporting the front bench, she doesn't even attend cabinet meetings.

It wasn't a three line whip it was a one line, which is basically asking politely.

It was leaked to Guido Fawkes before she was told.

 

There is no justification for what happened to her.

[Dicko]

3 minutes ago, Duff Man said:

I'm not clicking on that arsehole's site, but Guido tweeted out that the resignations were confirmed to him by a Labour spokesperson

Peston is a client journalist now.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Duff Man said:

I'm not clicking on that arsehole's site, but Guido tweeted out that the resignations were confirmed to him by a Labour spokesperson

Oh, so he asked them for a comment and they told him? Maybe, unless he’s lying. Don’t care about that. Using him to brief the press would have been weird though. 

[Duff Man]

2 minutes ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Oh, so he asked them for a comment and they told him? Maybe, unless he’s lying. Don’t care about that. Using him to brief the press would have been weird though. 

Nobody should be talking to them, imo, no matter what the circumstances.

[Duff Man]

4 minutes ago, Dicko said:

Peston is a client journalist now.

Pesto is a complete and utter joke, and it's beyond depressing that he's taken seriously by so many people

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Duff Man said:

Nobody should be talking to them, imo, no matter what the circumstances.

Oh. I guess we disagree. 

[Duff Man]

Just now, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Oh. I guess we disagree. 

There's a surprise