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6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Don’t worry he disappears when he knows he has been pulled up for being a cunt. Then he walzes back in as if nothings happened judging everyone. 

Not letting myself get drawn in mate. Hard enough keeping up with WhatsApp. He's clearly a dickhead but the only person who doesn't recognise it, is him. More important things to worry about. I hope everyone stays safe and well including SD.

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Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

Everyone listen to the guy with a rep score of 46, he clearly speaks for everyone. 

Haha, evidence if it was even needed. Think I'm up there with you with posts to rep ratio, you absolute melt. I couldn't give two shits about rep either

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2 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

What a few spiteful keyboard warriors amply demonstrate is that they can read Shankly's words, but they sure as hell don't understand them.

 

For a couple of years in the 70s, shortly after my uncle lost his seat as Conservative councillor for Speke, Shankly and my uncle lunched together most Fridays in a cafe in Eaton Road, West Derby.

 

They would talk about lots of things, especially politics, because Bill was a decent person who was happy to rub along with people with whom he didn't agree about everything and he was interested in what you had to say.

 

For Bill, being a Tory wasn't a hanging offence, it didn't make you scum, it wasn't a conspiracy against the poor; it just meant - like @Barnesey alluded to - that you have a different idea about how we achieve the best outcomes for everyone.

 

I'm not a Tory, I've never voted Tory, but if you want to truly honour Bill Shankly, you could try being a bit more Shanklyesque in the way you treat other people.


Were these 70’s Tories you speak so highly of also responsible for a decade of austerity leading to ‘excess deaths’ and a boom in food bank usage?
 

Genuine question. I know fuck all about the political landscape back then. 

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25 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


Were these 70’s Tories you speak so highly of also responsible for a decade of austerity leading to ‘excess deaths’ and a boom in food bank usage?
 

Genuine question. I know fuck all about the political landscape back then. 

Post war to late 70s and late 70s to now were broadly (with an obvious period of transition) two different economic models. However cunty Tories wanted to be up until the late 70s, and I've no doubt they wanted to be 100 carrot cunty, they were limited by the economic model of the day. Trying to privatise the NHS in the late 50s, or lower the top rate of tax to 45%, for example, would have been laughed out of town.

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7 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Post war to late 70s and late 70s to now were broadly (with an obvious period of transition) two different economic models. However cunty Tories wanted to be up until the late 70s, and I've no doubt they wanted to be 100 carrot cunty, they were limited by the economic model of the day. Trying to privatise the NHS in the late 50s, or lower the top rate of tax to 45%, for example, would have been laughed out of town.


So you’re telling me that essentially the kind of Tories that Shanks would ‘lunch with’ before the Thatcher years were different to the kind of Tories ruling over us today. Well I’m shocked. 

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17 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


So you’re telling me that essentially the kind of Tories that Shanks would ‘lunch with’ before the Thatcher years were different to the kind of Tories ruling over us today. Well I’m shocked. 

Find a bio of someone like Macmillan (wiki will give you enough of an idea), for example, and compare it to the current collection of excrement on the front bench.

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40 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Post war to late 70s and late 70s to now were broadly (with an obvious period of transition) two different economic models. However cunty Tories wanted to be up until the late 70s, and I've no doubt they wanted to be 100 carrot cunty, they were limited by the economic model of the day. Trying to privatise the NHS in the late 50s, or lower the top rate of tax to 45%, for example, would have been laughed out of town.

Pretty much in a nutshell. Probably the equivalent of today's Lib Dems.

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3 hours ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

What a few spiteful keyboard warriors amply demonstrate is that they can read Shankly's words, but they sure as hell don't understand them.

 

For a couple of years in the 70s, shortly after my uncle lost his seat as Conservative councillor for Speke, Shankly and my uncle lunched together most Fridays in a cafe in Eaton Road, West Derby.

 

They would talk about lots of things, especially politics, because Bill was a decent person who was happy to rub along with people with whom he didn't agree about everything and he was interested in what you had to say.

 

For Bill, being a Tory wasn't a hanging offence, it didn't make you scum, it wasn't a conspiracy against the poor; it just meant - like @Barnesey alluded to - that you have a different idea about how we achieve the best outcomes for everyone.

 

I'm not a Tory, I've never voted Tory, but if you want to truly honour Bill Shankly, you could try being a bit more Shanklyesque in the way you treat other people.

Don't pretend that being a Tory in the 70s (the era of the Keynesian/Beveridgian consensus) is really the same as being a post-Thatcher Tory.

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I think its a similar,but not entirely the same situation as say has recently happened with Trump in America. Two fellas,one white and one black could work together and socialise together yet the white guy goes and votes for Trump while the black guy sees all the language Trump uses about Mexicans as the same stuff previously used about African Americans. Its been used on Jews,Arabs and so on in the past and is used to dehumanise certain communities of people into unimportant and a subhuman species yet the White fella just shrugs it off as he maybe from a community where he believes he hasnt experienced this.Transpose this to what has been said and done about Scousers and Merseyside over the years,particularly in the last 40/50 years and you will see a similar situation. Merseysiders and LFC fans see what the black guy sees and outsiders simply shrug.

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