Tory Cabinet Thread

[Bruce Spanner]

They’ve shelved the policing bill.

 

Be quietly forgotten about and changed due to backlash.

 

Thats a huge rebellion.

[Mudface]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

They’ve shelved the policing bill.

 

Be quietly forgotten about and changed due to backlash.

 

Thats a huge rebellion.

I thought it got through its second reading last night?

[Bruce Spanner]

1 minute ago, Mudface said:

I thought it got through its second reading last night?

Should have gone to committee Monday, but, apparently, it’s toast due to the kick back.

 

We’ll see...

 

Don’t shoot the messenger and all that.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The Crypt Creeper Tebbitt has finally admitted that the Thatcher Government had the intelligence services spying on trade union activists.

 

Tebbit lifts lid on government involvement in spying on trade unionists

 

Lord Norman Tebbit

 

by Bethany Rielly

CAMPAIGNERS have been left “gobsmacked” by Tory peer Norman Tebbit’s admission that he received regular briefs from special branch on the activities of trade unionists while he was a minister.

The former employment secretary, a senior figure in Margaret Thatcher’s government, said the information was so detailed that he knew where trade unionists had gone on holiday.

He was speaking during a parliamentary Zoom meeting on Tuesday, hosted by Labour MP Richard Burgon to discuss the ongoing Undercover Policing Inquiry.

The probe, which is investigating abuses by officers in two secret police units, is also seeking to determine the extent to which spycops targeted and infiltrated trade unions and what was done with the intelligence gathered, including whether it was used for blacklisting.

All MPs and peers are free to attend such Zoom meetings, but Lord Tebbit’s presence surprised many.

Replying to a contribution by Blacklist Support Group’s Dave Smith, the Tory peer also revealed that he had held private talks with a former general secretary of the now-defunct electricians’ union EETPU about how to tackle left-wing trade unionists in the movement.

The EETPU, which is now part of Unite, was expelled from the TUC following its role in undermining the print unions in the Wapping dispute of 1986.

“Tebbit revealed what many of us had suspected for years: that senior officials in [the EETPU] had been colluding with the Tories and the British state security services to effectively spy on other trade unionists,” Labour MP John McDonnell, who attended the meeting, told the Morning Star.

“It was disgraceful treachery and betrayal of our movement, but not unexpected given the way in which the leaders of this union had done all they could to undermine working-class struggle in our country.”

Unite has called for Lord Tebbit’s admissions to be fully investigated, claiming they reveal the “first definite link” between undercover police officers and the government.

“This is why we are so gobsmacked over it,” Mr Smith told the Star. “For the last 10 years we’ve been doing this campaign, one of our key questions is, if the police were doing this … how high up the chain did it go?

“And clearly [Mr Tebbit] has been the first who has broken ranks and said: ‘Yes I was a member of the Cabinet and I was getting information supplied to me about union members’.”

Responding to the revelations, Unite said Lord Tebbit’s comments also raise further questions as to whether other secretary’s of state received similar briefings.

Unite assistant general secretary Howard Beckett said: “In the first instance the Mitting's Inquiry into undercover policing has a clear duty to investigate exactly what information was passed to the government, about whom and for how long.

“Former ministers including Norman Tebbit need to account for their actions and explain why they approved of spying on entirely lawful organisations.”

Mr Beckett described the alleged collusion between the EEPTU and Lord Tebbit as “equally disturbing” and said that any official found to have colluded with blacklisters would be “subject to the union’s disciplinary process.”

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Lengthy, but absolutely stunning.  Trust me. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/mar/18/all-hail-the-clown-king-how-boris-johnson-made-it-by-playing-the-fool

[Harry's Lad]

2 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Lengthy, but absolutely stunning.  Trust me. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/mar/18/all-hail-the-clown-king-how-boris-johnson-made-it-by-playing-the-fool

An excellent piece.

A more sustained attack on the bastard is needed though, from all sides, the press as well as opposition parties if we're ever to be rid of him.

He's a fucking menace.

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

AMAZING!!!

 

;Tutors in Sri Lanka who are as young as 17 and earning as little as £1.57 an hour have been used by the government’s flagship national tutoring programme to teach maths to disadvantaged primary school children in England, the Guardian has learned.

 

The Department for Education announced the immediate suspension of the use of under-18s as tutors for the £350m national tutoring programme (NTP) after being approached about the revelations, and pledged a review of the use of overseas-based tutors in the coming year.

 

Critics condemned another example of the government outsourcing support and services in its pandemic response, and said the funding – which is part of a £1.7bn catch-up fund announced last year – should have gone directly to schools to source their own tutors rather than through a complex system of private providers.

 

Mary Bousted, joint general secretary of the National Education Union, said: “First of all there’s a question about whether it’s ethical to be paying £1.57 to £3.07 an hour, outsourcing in this way. It also raises a bigger issue about why this money is being paid to the private sector whose objective in life must be to make a profit.” The catch-up fund to help schools tackle learning loss during the pandemic was unveiled last year following the mass closure of classrooms to all but the most vulnerable pupils and the children of key workers. The Sri Lanka-based tutors were provided through Third Space Learning (TSL), one of 33 tuition providers approved by the NTP to deliver one-to-one and small group tuition. An NTP spokesperson told the Guardian TSL was “one of the most popular providers”, supporting more than 800 schools since the programme was launched in November, with positive testimonials from school leaders on their website.

 

Research by the Guardian revealed that TSL, which works with one tutor centre in Sri Lanka, as well as two partner centres in India, had a minimum age requirement of 17 with pay per tuition session as low as 425 Sri Lankan rupees, the equivalent of £1.57, rising to an average of £3.07. The £350m national tutoring programme promises high quality subsidised tuition for disadvantaged children. Schools can choose from the approved tuition partners and pay 25% of the cost while government picks up the rest of the bill. The TSL founder and chief executive, Tom Hooper, said: “Using tutors in India and Sri Lanka is a part of the solution to try and make tutoring more accessible to children from disadvantaged backgrounds. They are all Stem [science, technology, engineering and mathematics] graduates and receive training and ongoing professional development which is overseen by our UK-based team of teachers.”

After being confronted with details from the website of Third Space Global, TSL’s wholly owned subsidiary in Sri Lanka, Hooper corrected himself and said tutors were in fact a mix of graduates and undergraduates. Asked in FAQs on the Third Space Global website about the minimum qualification to apply, it says: “You should be skilled in maths and English and pass our initial online test.” Another question – “Why is the payment only 425 rupees?” – appears to have been removed.

 

Hooper said £1.57 was the guaranteed minimum pay per session booked, whether the session takes place or is cancelled, but average pay was £3.07 an hour which is “2.5 times the estimated equivalent graduate salary” in Sri Lanka. “It is also 15 times the minimum wage in Sri Lanka, though clearly we hold ourselves to a much higher threshold than this,” he said. Of the £1.57 minimum pay per session, Hooper added: “This ensures a minimum and predictable income for our tutors, which is clearly important.” A Department for Education spokesperson said: “We set high standards for the national tutoring programme and do not hesitate to take action where it becomes clear those standards are not being met. “Third Space has now suspended the use of anyone under 18 as tutors within the programme. Stringent ongoing monitoring of all organisations involved in the programme is in place to make sure tutoring is of a high quality.” The department confirmed that three 17-year-old undergraduate tutors had been employed.

 

According to Hooper, every TSL session for the national tutoring programme costs £18.33, £9.50 of which pays for programme design, customer support, technology and finance in its London office, with £5.36 for tutor training and development at the Colombo office, and on average £3.07 per tutor per session. Hooper said the company makes 2% profit on each NTP session, which equates to 40p. “Our model for tutoring is supported by the NTP and was detailed in our proposal to join the NTP programme,” said Hooper, adding that the average age of his tutors was 24.

 

The Department for Education said tuition providers must follow all applicable laws and regulations, pay their tutors fairly and make sure high minimum standards of tutor qualifications are in place, warning they would intervene if tuition providers failed to meet required standards. TSL has been providing online tuition sessions using tutors in India and Sri Lanka since 2013, working with more than 75,000 children in 2,500 English state primary schools. A spokesperson from the NTP said: “Third Space Learning employ specialist maths tutors who have all completed a full-time three-week training programme, designed in partnership with University College London. All tutors receive ongoing professional development, frequent lesson evaluations and personalised feedback.”'

[Stickman]

[Harry's Lad]

25 minutes ago, Stickman said:

I've just sicked a bit. 

[Bruce Spanner]

Action Pritti, yes or no?

 

 

If it helps you get off to it she's just personally stod on the heads of several drowners.

[Anubis]

Love Phil Mitchell lurking in the background.

[Anubis]

22 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Lengthy, but absolutely stunning.  Trust me. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/mar/18/all-hail-the-clown-king-how-boris-johnson-made-it-by-playing-the-fool

 

19 hours ago, Harry's Lad said:

An excellent piece.

A more sustained attack on the bastard is needed though, from all sides, the press as well as opposition parties if we're ever to be rid of him.

He's a fucking menace.

 

 

He’s always been a nasty, insidious little man of low cunning, who disguised himself as a buffoon.

 

However , I’m pretty sure the time for sustained attacks has passed. He’s almost served his purpose, and I’m sure he’ll find the right moment to fuck off once the vaccine has done. It’s what comes after that we need to anticipate and attack. Sunak, Gove, Hunt - these are the people who’ll be vying to take over. 

[Anubis]

9 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Action Pritti, yes or no?

 

 

If it helps you get off to it she's just personally stod on the heads of several drowners.

Why is Gove dressed up as a policeman?

[Gnasher]

On 18/03/2021 at 21:52, Bruce Spanner said:

They’ve shelved the policing bill.

 

Be quietly forgotten about and changed due to backlash.

 

Thats a huge rebellion.

Let's not let facts get in the way eh?

 

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/policing-bill-vote-passes-heated-debate-protests

[Gnasher]

On 18/03/2021 at 21:52, Bruce Spanner said:

They’ve shelved the policing bill.

 

Be quietly forgotten about and changed due to backlash.

 

Thats a huge rebellion.

No link? 

 

Here you go.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/bill-that-curtails-ability-to-protest-in-uk-passes-its-second-reading

[Harry's Lad]

16 minutes ago, Anubis said:

 

He’s always been a nasty, insidious little man of low cunning, who disguised himself as a buffoon.

 

However , I’m pretty sure the time for sustained attacks has passed. He’s almost served his purpose, and I’m sure he’ll find the right moment to fuck off once the vaccine has done. It’s what comes after that we need to anticipate and attack. Sunak, Gove, Hunt - these are the people who’ll be vying to take over. 

Gove is the one that worries me most.

[Anubis]

Gove is heavily tied to Cummings and I did wonder if Classic Dom’s call for an inquiry last week was some pro-Gove manoeuvring.

[Harry's Lad]

20 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Gove is heavily tied to Cummings and I did wonder if Classic Dom’s call for an inquiry last week was some pro-Gove manoeuvring.

I would be surprised if it wasn't. Gove is very clever and nasty with it. 

I wouldn't put anything past him to be honest.

[Bruce Spanner]

On 18/03/2021 at 21:57, Mudface said:

I thought it got through its second reading last night?

 

On 18/03/2021 at 21:58, Bruce Spanner said:

Should have gone to committee Monday, but, apparently, it’s toast due to the kick back.

 

We’ll see...

 

Don’t shoot the messenger and all that.

 

The Scotsman are running with it today, so there's definately something in it.

 

https://www.scotsman.com/read-this/controversial-policing-bill-has-been-delayed-after-backlash-what-you-need-to-know-3171419

[Moo]

37 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

The Scotsman are running with it today, so there's definately something in it.

 

https://www.scotsman.com/read-this/controversial-policing-bill-has-been-delayed-after-backlash-what-you-need-to-know-3171419

I'm suspicious, they brazen everything out, why not this?  The have no shame or conscience.  If it is delayed it will have nothing to do with scrutiny or public reaction.

[Bruce Spanner]

Just now, Moo said:

I'm suspicious, they brazen everything out, why not this?  The have no shame or conscience.  If it is delayed it will have nothing to do with scrutiny or public reaction.

 

No idea, they've passed worse over their term so far.

 

My only thought is the back bench headbangers giving them a kicking in public view.

 

If it is delayed, like I heard it would be almost indefinately, maybe it's to see off a rebellion without losing face.

 

It'll be quickly forgotten if it is as they're sure to come up with something worse sooner rather than later.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

On 20/03/2021 at 08:17, Harry's Lad said:

I would be surprised if it wasn't. Gove is very clever and nasty with it. 

I wouldn't put anything past him to be honest.

Gove is insidious. The way he moves chess pieces around but stays our of the light in his Lancaster role.  

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Upon him winning a leadership contest, which he will, there will be a snap election called which they will walk on the back of the vaccine bounce.  So all them promises made two years ago will be dropped or the timer reset on them. 

It was no accident that local and PCC elections weren't postponed this May, it's a dry run for a GE. 

[Gnasher]

On 20/03/2021 at 11:06, Moo said:

I'm suspicious, they brazen everything out, why not this?  The have no shame or conscience.  If it is delayed it will have nothing to do with scrutiny or public reaction.

I thought it had passed. Its had its second reading but is now due up on the 24th of June.

 

 

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/2839/news