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Tory Cabinet Thread


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1 hour ago, gkmacca said:

The obvious thing from the very beginning was that Johnson's only hope of not being a terrible disaster in Number Ten was to preside over an unusually competent Cabinet. And the Cabinet - or rather the succession of Cabinets - he did 'preside' over turned out to be exceptionally incompetent. And yet these very people are now deluded enough to think that, by removing Johnson, they stand a chance of forming an effective and vote-winning Government. It is so astoundingly naive and solipsistic as to be laughable if it wasn't contributing so much harm to ordinary people. 

 

A great problem is that so many people think politics is merely some kind of tribal game. That's why such a disgusting little shit as Dominic Cummings has been indulged by the Westminster establishment - he was, in the way that stupid people think they're being clever, the enemy of their enemy. But by indulging him, an unelected and unaccountable parasite, they have created their own unelected and unaccountable monsters to destroy them in the future. Absolute rank hypocrisy running through that place like a tapeworm. And to think that the Ramsay MacDonald of the century, the stunningly shallow Starmer, is now in a position of comparative strength. Pass the sick bag, Karl.

While this government and no doubt the conservative one following it are truly terrible it would be fairly difficult for any government to currently look competent. Britain has some long term issues that have been baked in by dreadful policy making over decades that has been exacerbated by Brexit and the pandemic.

 

- We have a significant ageing population that will require more support and services (which is one of the predominant reasons why the NHS and social care is under so much pressure)

- This also cannons into the number of workers/people who are actively earning in the population, which in turn leads to lower levels of productivity and domestic growth in the economy

- Tax is then raised on the working age population (as this is more politically amenable for the retired population) to fund the older population leading to even more economic stagnation

- This also in part leads to a trade in-balance and is one of the reasons why we have a significant issue with the national debt and debt servicing

- The country has had terrible wage growth with only Greece and Cyprus performing worse than us over the past decade within Europe

- We have terrible infrastructure (particularly in transport) for a country of our size and population

- Our economy is based around services which is one of the reasons why we have gross regional inequalities that will take generations and long term effective policy making to fix (if the political class even want to fix it)

- Our housing stock is poor and so expensive as to be prohibitive for people to attain, this is; reducing our birth rate, increasing homelessness, causing mental health issues, lowering productivity due to increased travel times as well as impairing mobility between regions and social mobility

- The Conservatives have cut the state so significantly as to reduce it's effectiveness (for ideological purposes), which in turn has caused worse outcomes in a number of health and economic productivity metrics

- We have a rabid insane right wing press with associated rabid insane right wing press proprietors who make political terrain outside of extreme/ineffective policy confines difficult to undertake

- We have major issues with lobbying and political donations and post-politics appointments that poison our system, along side the promulgation of terrible policy solutions from a network of dark money funded think tanks

-Our first past the post electoral system is consistently undemocratic in a multitude of different ways

- The country also faces industrial scale tax avoidance which narrows the tax base

- Because of climate change and a number of other factors the rest of the world is becoming politically destabilised causing further issues on a foreign policy and immigration front

 

It would take a government of considerable courage with a long term significant plan to start making inroads into this, none of that is present among our political parties currently to any great extent, so much like Italy when they were undergoing a state of long term decline our political system will continue to be volatile. Not even our equivalent of Berlusconi could stay in power for long.

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11 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Where the fuck do the BBC get their Tory supporters "he's done so much for us. Labour, the SNP and the liberals makes you shudder ". 

 

 

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The top group, as remember they're reading press that is telling them that he is doing a great job, they are in social media bubbles if accessing those platforms. The only time anyone challenges them is when their pink/green haired nephews/grandkids (delete as appropriate) shout at them for using outmode language when they come back from the college/university/city they reside in.

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Utter carnage and chaos.

And IF they're serious about upholding conventions and traditions then they MUST call for a GE to ratify their new leader, and their 53 new ministerial appointments.  

This is just the start, imagine the leaks all these bastards are going to instigate as they jostle for leadership.  

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When these Tories turn on each other, they PROPERLY turn on each other. No messing around. 
 

Tory MP (and a believable Fast Show character) Andrew Bridgen has just said it’d be best if Johnson just stepped down entirely and said he was too unwell to continue. 
 

The interviewed queried that he wasn’t unwell. 
 

Bridgen, with a snarky look on his face, replied “well, that depends who you ask.”

 

Meow!

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2 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Utter carnage and chaos.

And IF they're serious about upholding conventions and traditions then they MUST call for a GE to ratify their new leader, and their 53 new ministerial appointments.  

This is just the start, imagine the leaks all these bastards are going to instigate as they jostle for leadership.  

They are absolutely going to muller each other. And then act as great friends straight after. 

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22 minutes ago, Nelly-Matip said:

When these Tories turn on each other, they PROPERLY turn on each other. No messing around. 
 

Tory MP (and a believable Fast Show character) Andrew Bridgen has just said it’d be best if Johnson just stepped down entirely and said he was too unwell to continue. 
 

The interviewed queried that he wasn’t unwell. 
 

Bridgen, with a snarky look on his face, replied “well, that depends who you ask.”

 

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Liz Truss fucking off the G20 summit early to get back and start her leadership campaign. They're all fucking rats. 

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1 minute ago, johnsusername said:

Liz Truss fucking off the G20 summit early to get back and start her leadership campaign. They're all fucking rats. 

They keep telling us they are working in the national interest. The country's economy is going down the shitter, we don't have the brexit trade deals they promised, yet Lizzy can fuck off early from the G20. They're fucking disgusting every last one of them. 

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Not sure why Starmer isn't pushing hard for a vote of no confidence. At worst if would force Johnson out of office and at best it would trigger a general election that Labour would likely win.

 

Edit: I should have seen the Keir Starmer thread before posting.....

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Nothing sums the Tories up more than some cunt they were interviewing on the BBC. I didn't catch her name, but she was a junior minister under Zahawi. She went on to say "I am very loyal to Boris". Yet she quit yesterday. It's like they don't know the meaning of words. It's up there with raab the other day trying to pretend upholding a complaint isn't guilty. 

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At this point, I wonder how many of the UK's economic problems simply go away overnight if we rejoin the common market. 

 

For someone to say 'Boris got Brexit done' they need to explain which of the advertised benefits of Brexit have actually materialised.  I don't think it's done, and neither do cunts like Farage, so how exactly has Boris delivered it? 

 

Brexit will continue to rip the Tory party apart, many of them know we're fucked and unable to claw back any economic strength with both hands tied behind our back.  The chief storyteller's reputation is in tatters, and he sacked both the cunts he platformed with. 

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3 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

At this point, I wonder how many of the UK's economic problems simply go away overnight if we rejoin the common market. 

 

For someone to say 'Boris got Brexit done' they need to explain which of the advertised benefits of Brexit have actually materialised.  I don't think it's done, and neither do cunts like Farage, so how exactly has Boris delivered it? 

 

Brexit will continue to rip the Tory party apart, many of them know we're fucked and unable to claw back any economic strength with both hands tied behind our back.  The chief storyteller's reputation is in tatters, and he sacked both the cunts he platformed with. 

For this exact reason, even if there's a new leader bounce, it won't last as the country will just be in the same position with a new Tory leader. 2 years still of inflation and recession and they've got no way of remedying it that doesn't go against the lunatics in the party, membership and electorate. The best they've got is cut taxes. And that's it.

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7 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

For someone to say 'Boris got Brexit done' they need to explain which of the advertised benefits of Brexit have actually materialised.  I don't think it's done, and neither do cunts like Farage, so how exactly has Boris delivered it? 

I would call it "done" - for better or worse - when the Withdrawal Agreement and the trade deal are settled. Until then... Johnson hasn't actually achieved anything, has he.

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