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Tory Cabinet Thread


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6 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

It's starting to come out now and will become more apparent soon.

 

The Brexit end game is corporation welfare, like the American system, whereby companies can claim welfare from the state to 'help' them to succeed/compete in an ever 'threatening atmosphere'.

 

Effectively the state pays business to operate in countries and the state picks up the tab for costs and losses, or wealth transfer from public purse to private bodies without the pesky law standing in the way.

 

The EU were working on laws for 'state aid' which would have outlawed this, but Blighty gonna Blightly.

 

Winter just started to look a little colder.

 

East India Company 2.0.

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25 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

GMB TV went to town on Twatt Hancock this morning. They were even using footage of interviews he's given to Sky news.

 

It's now been something like 145 days since a Tory minister last appeared on GMB TV to answer questions about the pandemic. 

They absolutely hate being questioned on their incompetence. Fucking cunts the lot of them. 

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They have effectively boycotted, or refused to send a minister to any show/programme where they might be shown up.

 

So C4 news, Today (Radio 4), GMB, Newsnight ETC.

 

A genuine scandal that we have just come to expect from these fucking spivs. 

 

The fact the PM communicates to the UK every Sunday behind a pay wall shows you the utter fucking contempt they have for us.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

They have effectively boycotted, or refused to send a minister to any show/programme where they might be shown up.

 

So C4 news, Today (Radio 4), GMB, Newsnight ETC.

 

A genuine a candle that we have just come to expect from these fucking spivs. 

 

The fact the PM communicates to the UK every Sunday behind a pay wall shows you the utter fucking contempt they have for us.

 

 

Johnson wouldn't go on Andrew Neil before the election because Neil had been hammering the other candidates and they knew he would make a massive cunt of Johnson. Shit-bags and as a nation we let them get away with it. 

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5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Johnson wouldn't go on Andrew Neil before the election because Neil had been hammering the other candidates and they knew he would make a massive cunt of Johnson. Shit-bags and as a nation we let them get away with it. 


What’s the quote...

 

‘Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt’

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Britania Unchained, 2012.

 

'The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor. Whereas Indian children aspire to be doctors or businessmen, the British are more interested in football and pop music.'  Author Kwasi Kwarteng, Priti Patel, Dominic Raab, Chris Skidmore & Elizabeth Truss.

 

Fuck you.

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8 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Britania Unchained, 2012.

 

'The British are among the worst idlers in the world. We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor. Whereas Indian children aspire to be doctors or businessmen, the British are more interested in football and pop music.'  Author Kwasi Kwarteng, Priti Patel, Dominic Raab, Chris Skidmore & Elizabeth Truss.

 

Fuck you.

Thats the problem we forget that we are cattle to be worked to death for the benefit of the privileged few.

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Cool society we're building for ourselves, here. Love for pretty much every govt agency thinkable to have the ability to "authorise secret crimes". And overall I'm just really excited to see how the rest of this decade pans out, tbh, given the awesome trajectory we're on

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54274605

 

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New rules for MI5 and police to authorise crimes

  • 24 September 2020

Undercover informants working for the police and MI5 are going to be explicitly permitted for the first time under British law to commit crimes.

The unprecedented legislation to authorise and oversee crimes comes after years of unclear rules over when these agents can break the law.

 

The law will not specify exactly which crimes can be committed.

 

And critics are urging MPs to amend the proposed law to rule out murder and serious violence.

 

The highly unusual decision to create a law that sanctions crime comes after a legal battle to force MI5 and the government to reveal secret rules governing when an informant can break the law.

 

Informants - also known as agents - are recruited to gather intelligence on targets, including terrorist organisations, major drugs gangs and child abuse networks.

 

These agents are often already involved in the networks being targeted and need to maintain a cover in order to gather critical evidence for investigators.

Court challenge

However, a major court ruling last year found that while MI5 had an "implied" power to authorise crimes - it did not mean anyone involved was immune from prosecution.

 

That judgement, only narrowly in the government's favour, prompted the decision to create the new law.

 

Under the legislation going before Parliament on Thursday, MI5, the police, the National Crime Agency and other agencies that use informants or undercover agents will be able to explicitly authorise them to commit a specific crime as part of an operation.

 

The law will require MI5 officers and others to show the crime is "necessary and proportionate".

 

Security officials will not say which crimes they will consider authorising because that could lead to terrorists and other serious criminals working out who is working undercover.

 

But the legislation stresses agencies must not breach the Human Rights Act, which requires the government to protect life.

 

While the security service's watchdog, a senior judge, will report on how the power is used, there will be no role for the Crown Prosecution Service in reviewing the crimes.

27 plots foiled

Ken McCallum, the new Director General of MI5, said agents working deep undercover had played a critical role in stopping many of the 27 terror plots that have been uncovered in the last three years.

 

"Without the contribution of human agents, be in no doubt, many of these attacks would not have been prevented," he said.

 

And Security Minister James Brokenshire said the new law had in-built guarantees.

 

"This is a critical capability and is subject to robust, independent oversight. It is important that those with a responsibility to protect the public can continue this work, knowing that they are on a sound legal footing."

 

But Maya Foa, director of Reprieve, a legal and human rights campaign group that challenged the secrecy around the rules, said: "We are seriously concerned that the bill fails to expressly prohibit MI5 and other agencies from authorising crimes like torture, murder and sexual violence.

 

"Our intelligence agencies do a vital job in keeping this country safe, but there must be common sense limits on their agents' activities, and we hope MPs will ensure these limits are written into the legislation".

Which agencies will be able to authorise secret crimes?

  • MI5 and other intelligence bodies
  • Police forces and the National Crime agency
  • Immigration and Border Officers
  • HM Revenue and Customs, Serious Fraud Office
  • UK military forces
  • Ministry of Justice (investigations in prisons)
  • Competition and Markets Authority, Environment Agency, Financial Conduct Authority, Food Standards Agency, Gambling Commission and Medicines and Healthcare Regulation Authority

 

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8 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:


He’s got some wonky views, friend of yours? 

A dentist who's pro brexit and considers BLM a Marxist organisation that want to destroy our way of life, it's like shitbag bingo.

 

Besides, can't believe a dentist would ever do anything purely for money.

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7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

A dentist who's pro brexit and considers BLM a Marxist organisation that want to destroy our way of life, it's like shitbag bingo.

 

Besides, can't believe a dentist would ever do anything purely for money.

Hes also got a good point, try this fella if the previous one upsets you

 

 

You can of course put forward your own veiws on the bailout.

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