Centrists

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

Happy to discuss and exchange ideas NV, but I’m gonna subject myself to a patronising ask like that mate. Good night.

I'm trying to find the disconnect between what you see as democratically right and just and what I see. I'm not being patronising or playing games, I really am just trying to see your view on democracy. If you don't want to answer it (and you clearly don't, as you would have just said the answer already) that's fine. 

[aRdja]

16 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Nobody knew what they were voting for !!!! It should be null & void until every detail of the deal is on the table. Thats when democracy would prevail. 

To be honest, I don’t really feel quite right to discuss this issue as frequently and as passionately now that I have less skin in the game mate. Mook called me out on it a few weeks ago and I think he was right.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Its 10 past 3 in the afternoon 

Not passing judgement but...

 

[A Red]

15 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Its 10 past 3 in the afternoon 

Fucking right, colonial cunts going to bed when its still afternoon in blighty.

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

I actually find you quite horrible, to be honest. If I had to choose between you and James O'Brien as the template for my son to follow, it was - by a massive distance - be him. 

For the sake of your son, I hope JOB eats healthier breakfasts and snorts less coke.

[Bjornebye]

22 minutes ago, aRdja said:

To be honest, I don’t really feel quite right to discuss this issue as frequently and as passionately now that I have less skin in the game mate. Mook called me out on it a few weeks ago and I think he was right.

Well no,  you're entitled to an opinion mate. 

[mattyq]

Much as I hate & loathe the result I think it has to be carried out and we've left so it has been

The Tories have opted for such an extreme version that I think there needs to be another vote as to whether or not this is the way forward

On the O'Brien issue I find it a bit weird.

I'm not a fan of his particularly but I do enjoy his dismantling of the Leavers. He has all the cards and their positions are generally semi insane/incoherent/really fucking stupid so i don't think it's that difficult but he does it with a relish I find appealing.

Of course, he's a hypocrite having admitted voting for the cunt Johnson in the past

Think he's more of a Tory than a Centerist

[skend04]

I still can't get my head round the fact our Antipodean cousins were allowed to vote in the referendum and huge number who were directly affected by the choices made by others weren't allowed to. Better still they post on here to tell us that the people have voted and to paraphrase we should all just suck it up.

[Mudface]

44 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Its 10 past 3 in the afternoon 

Cunt doesn't even know the time of day.

[cloggypop]

12 minutes ago, skend04 said:

I still can't get my head round the fact our Antipodean cousins were allowed to vote in the referendum and huge number who were directly affected by the choices made by others weren't allowed to. Better still they post on here to tell us that the people have voted and to paraphrase we should all just suck it up.

Does my head in

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

There's a lot of morons out there who hate being reminded that they are, in fact, morons.

 

Unfortunately their votes count just the same as the votes of non-morons, so here we see the major drawback of democracy.

You do remember it was Nick Clegg and the lib dems slavish devotion to everything David Cameron seemedxto utter that led us to holding the eu referendum in the first place dont you?

 

 

 

 

Pair of cunts

 

 

 

 

[cloggypop]

2 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Cunt doesn't even know the time of day.

Indeed. It was actually 10 past 4.

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

You do remember it was Nick Clegg and the lib dems slavish devotion to everything David Cameron seemedxto utter that led us to holding the eu referendum in the first place dont you?

 

 

 

 

Pair of cunts

 

 

 

 

Fucking cunts 

[Strontium]

7 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

You do remember it was Nick Clegg and the lib dems slavish devotion to everything David Cameron seemedxto utter that led us to holding the eu referendum in the first place dont you?

 

Pretty sure it was actually the lack of a Lib Dem presence in government, leaving Cameron hostage to his right wing, which led to the holding of a referendum. But you keep on clinging to your alternative facts all the same.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Pretty sure it was actually the lack of a Lib Dem presence in government, leaving Cameron hostage to his right wing, which led to the holding of a referendum. But you keep on clinging to your alternative facts all the same.

Come on SD, you know thats not true. I wont call you a liar incase RobbieO shits his Guinness out again but come on you're worse than Trump. 

 

Donald not Judd. No-ones as big a cunt as Judd Trump. 

[Gnasher]

2 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Pretty sure it was actually the lack of a Lib Dem presence in government, leaving Cameron hostage to his right wing, which led to the holding of a referendum. But you keep on clinging to your alternative facts all the same.

But the lib dems formed a coalition with Cameron in the first place, they had the chance to form a government with Brown. Cameron's promise of a referendum was not a secret so your party was part of a process that brought the country a referendum so its a bit rich for you to throw insults because the vote didnt go your way.

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

But the lib dems formed a coalition with Cameron in the first place, they had the chance to form a government with Brown. Cameron's promise of a referendum was not a secret so your party was part of a process that brought the country a referendum so its a bit rich for you to throw insults because the vote didnt go your way.

 

Revisionist nonsense in your first sentence. And the EU referendum promise was in the Tories' 2015 manifesto; the Lib Dems were never signed up to that, and would have vetoed it had the coalition continued.

[Gnasher]

14 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Revisionist nonsense in your first sentence. And the EU referendum promise was in the Tories' 2015 manifesto; the Lib Dems were never signed up to that, and would have vetoed it had the coalition continued.

It's not nonsense, you could have tried a coalition with Brown as between your two parties you had more votes and seats than the Tories, you chose not too. You

 

You knew the tory plan, everybody did and you were part of the government. The Cameron/ Osborne plan of Austerity, more austerity, involvement in Syria, Yemen and Libya, the promise of a eu referendum to quell the tory crackpots and more austerity, with a bit more austerity on top. Clegg bought the whole shebang for the whiff of the number 10 rose garden and ride in the government ministerial car. 

 

The bottom line is you're complict in what the outcome of that period was, to complain about others is crass, you bought it you own it.

[Kevin D]

On 21/06/2020 at 01:54, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

You evidently have me confused with someone else. When I used to neg people (none given by me for 17 days now) I'd generally save them for specific individuals, which you weren't one of.

 

 

Excellent.

[Bjornebye]

21 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

 

Excellent.

Always explain why as well. 

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

2 hours ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Pretty sure it was actually the lack of a Lib Dem presence in government, leaving Cameron hostage to his right wing, which led to the holding of a referendum. But you keep on clinging to your alternative facts all the same.

Though you must admit Jo Swinson's voting record on Welfare & Benefits puts most Tories to shame?

[Gnasher]

34 minutes ago, Jarvinja Ilnow said:

Though you must admit Jo Swinson's voting record on Welfare & Benefits puts most Tories to shame?

Cleggs was almost as bad, scrole down a little, it's like a list of shame

 

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11812/nick_clegg/sheffield%2C_hallam/votes

 

 

This is the problem with center ground politics and politicians, you cant trust them, cheap suit salesmen with no spine and only ambition for themselves. Dangerous.

 

[Captain Howdy]

4 hours ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Pretty sure it was actually the lack of a Lib Dem presence in government, leaving Cameron hostage to his right wing, which led to the holding of a referendum. But you keep on clinging to your alternative facts all the same.

I’m a moderate mate, but Nick Clegg was a cunt, he was absolutely seduced by power and imo now bitterly regrets it. The Cameron regime was, in my opinion, the most brutal in my lifetime, Thatcher included. Osborne was a fucking psychopath. I appreciate it was a difficult position the Lib Dem’s were in but there is very definitely blood on your hands

[Bruce Spanner]

26 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

I’m a moderate mate, but Nick Clegg was a cunt, he was absolutely seduced by power and imo now bitterly regrets it. The Cameron regime was, in my opinion, the most brutal in my lifetime, Thatcher included. Osborne was a fucking psychopath. I appreciate it was a difficult position the Lib Dem’s were in but there is very definitely blood on your hands

I’m assuming he doesn’t regret being paid the best part of £300k, per whatsoever time period the money comes in, to be a person ‘who people recognise’ for facebooks ‘we’re not cunts think box’ for being a massive, massive ideological failure. 

[Captain Howdy]

11 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

I’m assuming he doesn’t regret being paid the best part of £300k, per whatsoever time period the money comes in, to be a person ‘who people recognise’ for facebooks ‘we’re not cunts think box’ for being a massive, massive ideological failure. 

I don’t know mate, just a few things he’s said since have made me think he regrets it, or at least he’s trying to distance himself. The Cameron regime was absolutely fucking shocking, people try to make out Johnson’s circus of clowns are bad but they are nothing, absolutely nothing compared to Camerons psychos