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On 12/02/2020 at 12:26, Remmie said:

I also backed him to the hilt and felt his explanation about the word Negrito did explain things, believed him 100% until he bit Chiellini was it in the world cup and came out with some bollocks about his teeth falling on him. It's not now that I believe Evra or Suarez, but his version of events certainly can't be trusted any more.

Pretty much where I was/am now on the Suarez thing. I think with hindsight Suarez disrespected the club far more than Owen did .

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Disagree on Suarez - he was what he was. We bought him while he was serving a ban FFS.

His best year was his last - probably the best individual performance ever in the league - he buckled down and delivered - and we made nearly 40m on his transfer.

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38 minutes ago, deiseach said:

No discussion of Graeme Souness and his, ahem, distance from the club?

 

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Souness is the guest I would most like to listen to on Carra’s podcast.

 

The difference between Souness and Owen is that, whilst what Souness did was far worse, he completely owns it and, since leaving the club, has repeatedly apologised with no excuses.

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1 hour ago, Oscar_the_Grouch said:

Souness is the guest I would most like to listen to on Carra’s podcast.

 

The difference between Souness and Owen is that, whilst what Souness did was far worse, he completely owns it and, since leaving the club, has repeatedly apologised with no excuses.


Nice of you to stop by, Graeme. 

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3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Oh, so we can’t even sniff farts without being judged on here now. Fucking sick of this Nazi bullshit. 

Everyone loves their own brand. 

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Great player but he made his choices. He was never going to start regularly for Madrid, they bought him to sell him again knowing full well they'd make a profit as he and his agent fucked the club over for the fee. He couldn't even do it early to give us time to get a replacement through the door. 

 

I don't hate him, but then I don't hate Torres, Suarez etc. But he made his choices. He could have tried to force his way back but was more concerned at his England place. 

 

 

I don't believe much of that interview either. The later part he opened up but the first part was guarded and just sounded like a set interview to swing the story his way. And a few things he said just sounded excuse making shite. 

 

Its a short career and he has every right to do as he wants but don't expect the fans to think of you as they do Robbie Fowler. The only player leaving that broke my heart was Robbie going to Leeds I sat up that night hoping it would fall through even if with hindsight it was the right decision for everyone 

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On 11/02/2020 at 09:49, Chris said:

 

Nah, it's time people for their heads out of the sand on that front. He did it. He was found guilty of doing it. Evra didn't handle it greatly, but as a society we've kinda moved past people telling minorities who feel they've been abused that the particular word, or the expression "my little black friend" isn't racist or wasn't meant in a certain context. 

 

How some people can continue to support him is beyond me. 

He was found guilty by the same FA that said 'we believe Wayne Hennessey didn't know about Nazis' when pictured giving the salute behind a German teammate

 

Only one person's knows the context but fuck hanging someone out to dry on the FA finding them guilty

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The other thing was Owens

 

I could never have signed for Everton. 

But he signed fir the mancs. Nobody would have really cared if he went to Everton. Nobody hated Beardsley for it

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47 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

The other thing was Owens

 

I could never have signed for Everton. 

But he signed fir the mancs. Nobody would have really cared if he went to Everton. Nobody hated Beardsley for it

When he signed for them his words were " I signed without a moment's thought" 

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12 hours ago, Oscar_the_Grouch said:

Souness is the guest I would most like to listen to on Carra’s podcast.

 

The difference between Souness and Owen is that, whilst what Souness did was far worse, he completely owns it and, since leaving the club, has repeatedly apologised with no excuses.

I think that’s a stretch.  When he spoke about it a few years ago for the first time he initially said he was sorry about doing the interview with the s*n at that time not that he shouldn’t have done it at all.  I wouldn’t say that was him owning anything really.  He was eventually on MNF with Carragher and spoke at great length about how much he loves the club etc and was sorry for doing it but it was very vague again.

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People saying Owen was a "great player" for us. Nah, not having it. He was a very good player for us but falls way short of greatness.

 

Kenny was great. Rushy was great. Ray Kennedy was great. Barnsey, Souness, Stevie were all great and many other players were far superior to Owen.

 

His penalty record alone screams "numpty".

 

He's a fat, round, stumpy cunt who stinks of piss.

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3 minutes ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

People saying Owen was a "great player" for us. Nah, not having it. He was a very good player for us but falls way short of greatness.

 

Kenny was great. Rushy was great. Ray Kennedy was great. Barnsey, Souness, Stevie were all great and many other players were far superior to Owen.

 

His penalty record alone screams "numpty".

 

He's a fat, round, stumpy cunt who stinks of piss.

He was a superb player for us but his 'greatness' was short lived due to injury and his own desire to get out of the club and put England on at least a par with his club career. If he didn't care so much about England (wasn't he born in Wales,or almost?) he might have had fewer injuries and had a longer and more injury free career. He made decisions that he can't take back and cannot rewrite just to please himself. He is a wealthy man so he can comfort himself with that and his racehorses. Still a very good life for anybody.

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37 minutes ago, The Guest said:

I think that’s a stretch.  When he spoke about it a few years ago for the first time he initially said he was sorry about doing the interview with the s*n at that time not that he shouldn’t have done it at all.  I wouldn’t say that was him owning anything really.  He was eventually on MNF with Carragher and spoke at great length about how much he loves the club etc and was sorry for doing it but it was very vague again.

That is thing that always pisses me off, goes on about the timing of the article, completely/conveniently missing the point of having anything whatsoever to do with that rag. 

 

Apologising for the date is not an apology.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Carvalho Diablo said:

People saying Owen was a "great player" for us. Nah, not having it. He was a very good player for us but falls way short of greatness.

 

Kenny was great. Rushy was great. Ray Kennedy was great. Barnsey, Souness, Stevie were all great and many other players were far superior to Owen.

 

His penalty record alone screams "numpty".

 

He's a fat, round, stumpy cunt who stinks of piss.

I wouldnt have that. 

Between 17-21 he was superb for us in a relatively shite team. Full of wannabes, and loads not good enough to wear the shirt. He could have been part of older and sides later that have been good and slotted in. He was the sole goalscorer through much of his time. 

 

He fucked up his reputation and not just with us either. 

 

 

Its was simply 

I support England's Michael Owen FC through most of his career. 

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15 hours ago, Oscar_the_Grouch said:

Souness is the guest I would most like to listen to on Carra’s podcast.

 

The difference between Souness and Owen is that, whilst what Souness did was far worse, he completely owns it and, since leaving the club, has repeatedly apologised with no excuses.

'Far worse'? You're surely not comparing Owen leaving the club (as Gerrard almost did twice) to Souness conducting an interview with that newspaper in 1992?

 

 

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On 10/02/2020 at 22:04, Jimmy Hills Chin said:

I think the ‘doing a Rushie’ is bollocks. If it had gone better for him in Madrid he’d probably still be living there now.

If it had gone better for Rush, and he'd learned that it was a foreign country, he'd still be living in Turin.

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44 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

I wouldnt have that. 

Between 17-21 he was superb for us in a relatively shite team. Full of wannabes, and loads not good enough to wear the shirt. He could have been part of older and sides later that have been good and slotted in. He was the sole goalscorer through much of his time. 

 

He fucked up his reputation and not just with us either. 

 

 

Its was simply 

I support England's Michael Owen FC through most of his career. 

An important point, I think. Subjectively the way he treated his whole time at Newcastle as if it were beneath him was hilarious, but objectively it was disgraceful. At the very least it makes it harder to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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