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9 hours ago, The Midnight Rambler said:

Speaking to a Newcastle fan tonight at footie and he piped up and said “you can only win the premier league with rich owners”

 

Obviously came back with Leicester. And he said that was a one off. I then said Liverpool and he looked at me like I was taking the piss. Basically said we only won the league because we spent millions. 
I then told him that we had a better net spend than them over the last 5 years. 
wasn't having it for a second and laughed in my face. 
 

I’ll be like a pig in shit if those Denton burners go down.

Had exactly the same conversation.

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I've heard it on good authority that the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia  Mohammed bin Salman is a big fan of Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads. He even uses the theme song as his mobile phone ringtone.

 

He's confided to Amanda Staveley that he regrets not being around Newcastle in the 1970s.

 

For the last few years he's been disguising himself as a hen do from Barnsley so he can hang round the Bigg Market of a weekend. 

 

His favourite footballer is Temuri Ketsbaia.

 

This takeover is, as they say, the fulfillment of a lifelong dream. 

 

 

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Who do we think will be the big signings to start with. I reckon James Maddison might be one, will be overpriced for any of the big clubs,english, bit of a name but isnt a guaranteed starter for Leicester. Could see that happening for 50ml plus

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11 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Who do we think will be the big signings to start with. I reckon James Maddison might be one, will be overpriced for any of the big clubs,english, bit of a name but isnt a guaranteed starter for Leicester. Could see that happening for 50ml plus

Not to mention that Maddison is a classless nouveau riche cunt! He'll fit right in.

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Jurgen Klopp is the only Premier League manager to raise it so far, wondering aloud on Friday whether there might have been some word from the league on the human rights issue that surrounds the state fund of Saudi Arabia taking control of Newcastle United.

 

For Klopp, who defied the ownership of Liverpool over its part in the European Super League amid the outcry that spread across football, politics and beyond, it was puzzling as to why a similar response was not forthcoming in this case. The opposition to the Super League was a very easy argument to make, having no supporters other than the small group of owners and executives reluctantly huddled around a bad idea conceived by a core of extremists.

 

Saudi, its Public Investment Fund, and Newcastle might have been just as easy, with all that blood and condemnation. Although it turned out not to be the case. There was the direct lobbying between Crown Prince Mohammed Bin-Salman and the British government and the Premier League’s own rules that eventually permitted the takeover. For nervous North East politicians, there was the danger of alienating a large franchise of radicalised Newcastle fans.

 

There is the existing Saudi investment in various Western commercial entities including a deal in place between the Saudi state and Manchester United.

 

The problem is there has never been anything in the Premier League like the Newcastle takeover before. That being a flag-waving, high-profile vehicle for the Saudi state at the heart of what is arguably Britain’s most successful cultural export of the modern era.

As for English football’s leading clubs, the question remains as to what they are most upset about when it comes to the PIF and Newcastle.

 

Klopp seemed to acknowledge an issue with a place at the table for a state that stands accused, among other things, of murdering and dismembering a journalist and funding a dirty war in Yemen. Hard to tell from the silence of the rest of them. Is it the bloody hand stain on the Premier League? Or is it the wage inflation?

 

The suspicion is that many, if not all, owners wish to keep their options open, so that when the moment comes there is no restriction as to whom they can sell their club. Now that Newcastle’s change of ownership has drastically altered the league, there are many who may be glad they still have that unregulated exit strategy.

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They may be discomfited by the league in which they play being used for the normalisation of a regime that does not recognise gay rights, or equality for women. Or perhaps it is the players they will never sign, or the Champions League revenue they will miss out on in seasons to come. There were those among the 19 who were keen for the Premier League to call a meeting this week to explain the process by which the PIF came to control Newcastle, but when the meeting was done there was not a club prepared to give its view.

 

Whatever reservations the rest have about the PIF, Bin-Salman and Saudi, they are keeping them to themselves. The Premier League clubs had a chance to change the rules to prevent a takeover from a regime with a dubious reputation, and that chance, for many of them, was a mere two decades long.

 

As broadcast revenues boomed and the values of clubs soared, they did nothing. Along the way they accepted the sale of Manchester City to a senior member of the ruling elite in the non-democratic state of Abu Dhabi.

 

That now seems a trifle in light of the current situation.

In the draft of Project Big Picture, the reform agenda for the Premier League authored chiefly by the ownership of Liverpool and Manchester United last year, there was a proposal for nine clubs granted special voting rights to veto a prospective new owner.

 

Those nine were the league’s longest-serving clubs by consecutive seasons and included all the so-called big six who would join the Super League five months later. With a two-thirds majority the nine could impose or veto whatever they wanted. In short, it was rule of the big six who would, among other powers, be able to dictate who owned their rivals.

 

Unacceptable, of course, and Big Picture was rejected as swiftly and as emphatically as the Super League. The totality of the proposal was that “two-thirds of the long-term shareholders can veto the PL Board’s approval of a proposed New Owner”. There were no reasons given as to why they might wish to do so or upon what reasonable grounds that veto might be exercised.

 

Certainly, no mention of human rights anywhere. Just a giant power grab with the details to be filled in later.

 

Perhaps there are some regrets now that a smarter consensus could not be found. Never more so than at Tottenham Hotspur who visit St James’ Park on Sunday almost £1 billion in debt and are the club that opened Britain’s most expensive live entertainment venue the year before lockdown. Just when chairman Daniel Levy thought it could get no worse, a new Newcastle have arrived to try to blow the likes of Spurs out the water.

 

For the owners of Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, West Ham, Aston Villa, perhaps even Manchester United, there are a few years to assess their options while Newcastle get their act together. Perhaps incompetency, or misfortune means the PIF takes longer than expected, but ultimately the fox is coming to the chicken coop.

It has been more than a week now and no word of a moral objection to the Saudi intervention from the other 19.

 

Just a gloomy mood of most - perhaps all - having to shuffle backwards in the queue. All those clubs know they could, had they wanted, have legislated against a repressive regime taking control of one of them. They just chose not to do so and they alone know why.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/10/17/jurgen-klopp-lone-voice-saudi-arabias-newcastle-coup/

 

Jurgen's the only one to speak up because he's the only one with integrity and isnt 'me, me, me'!

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Warren Barton on Sky “it won’t happen overnight it might take three or fours years but success is guaranteed to happen “ …Where’s the joy or integrity in that ?
When we appointed Klopp we were all made up to a man we’d got the best manger in the business but there was no guarantee it was going to work and if it hadn’t where would have  gone from there? Back to appointing another untried manager in Rogers or another safe pair of hands in (sniggers) Hodgson It in fact it took four years through blood sweat heartache and tears for Klopp to achieve his first trophy which made it ultimately more joyful but Newcastle are going to be a success because they’ve got the most money and any mistakes can be rectified over and over again with no consequences until it works .

it is literally a lottery win in that any club could achieve the same success if they’d racked up at their club 

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