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4 minutes ago, Jedd Drudge said:

The statement adds: "“We also welcome the opportunity to engage logistics and capacity support from the Armed Forces, working alongside our own Local Authority staff and Public Health officials.

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-city-region-pub-closures-19087866

 

Boris stated a few weeks ago that he could bring in the army for assisting the police, we are being told something else here now.

I might be reading too much into that article but I took some of it to mean that the local council may be more involved in managing the support package and in the local track and trace system.  If so that has to be a good thing, hopefully.

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On 09/10/2020 at 17:57, MegadriveMan said:

Japans obesity rate is significantly lower than UK/America. Less than 4%. 

 

They have grown up in a culture of wearing masks when you are ill, using 'sunbrellas' to avoid getting tanned. 

 

Its no surprise to me at all that Japan are dealing with Covid better than most countries. 

Well aye, if you are ill, you shouldn't even be leaving the house. But clearly a symptomatic person coughing and spluttering everywhere would be spreading a bit less if they wear a mask. My argument has always been against healthy people wearing masks.

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On 09/10/2020 at 19:20, Colonel Bumcunt said:

You're not taking care of your variables though, are you. 

 

Lockdowns DO work, guaranteed.  

 

Adherence to lockdowns is essential in order for them to work. 

 

Anti-maskers, anti-lockdowners, these cunts need locking-up or, as China did, boarded-up into their shitholes where they can't hurt others. 

 

 

Do they? Why has spread in locked down areas continued and even increased then? The original lockdown came at a time when we were moving into warm weather, so was it the lockdown, or was it the fact that respiratory diseases spread less in the UK at that time of year?

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5 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Well aye, if you are ill, you shouldn't even be leaving the house. But clearly a symptomatic person coughing and spluttering everywhere would be spreading a bit less if they wear a mask. My argument has always been against healthy people wearing masks.

If a large proportion of people that can have the virus are asymptomatic then surely just having people wear them is a decent enough request.

 

https://www.cnet.com/health/can-you-spread-coronavirus-even-if-you-dont-have-symptoms/

 

We can have the argument as to wether an asymptomatic person can pass on the virus but there doesn't seem to be a definite answer as yet. Also there's a decent chance that if you've just had a test and been cleared, so you wander round the shops then others will either challenge you or think, fuck it why am I wearing a mask.  

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59 minutes ago, Jedd Drudge said:

Pubs, bars, gyms, betting shops, casinos, and adult gaming centres across Liverpool, Wirral, Knowsley, Sefton, St Helens and Halton will close as part of tough Tier 3 coronavirus lockdown restrictions - the region's leaders confirmed in a joint statement this morning. 

 

The statement from leaders across the Liverpool City Region also reveals the Army is being drafted in and the region is to receive a six-month package of financial government support as part of the Tier 3 restrictions to be announced by Boris Johnson later on Monday amid spiralling coronavirus cases.

 

 

 

Thats Code fucked unless the hotels are still open 

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11 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

Well if Kuntstwat is correct that's our half term trip to Scotland fooked, and if it goes on until the end of the year our new year trip to Edinburgh is out the window as well!

 

I know it's small beer compared to what some people are going through, but we need those breaks, we're proper struggling to function as a family at present!

 

Oh well, it is what it is!

Where in Scotland were you planning to go? The restrictions in the central belt are brutal. And to add to the general vibe the Christmas and New Year events in Edinburgh have already been cancelled. 
We did everything we could to comply with the original lockdown but we can’t continue to live like this 

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11 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

The army being drafted in to suppress any protests.  That's clearly the message to you from London. 

 

I think it is more than just that to be fair, an ex work colleague who is fairly high up in the Royal Naval Reserve was taken down to London last weekend for a 6 month deployment in logistics.

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11 minutes ago, sir roger said:

I think it is more than just that to be fair, an ex work colleague who is fairly high up in the Royal Naval Reserve was taken down to London last weekend for a 6 month deployment in logistics.

Maybe the higher up you are the more likely you are to one involved in logistics. I expect a large proportion of the Army will be employed as enforcers, as Boris hinted at in the commons a few weeks ago . Especially if travel from lockdown areas is to be enforced along with curfews etc. 

 

But I also can see how delivering food to the vulnerable could be a job given to the Army. Today's briefing could see us a little more informed, or should I say the explanation afterwards as Boris is never really clear on anything. 

 

A No10 spokesman clarified the roles army might take up. 

They said: "To further free up the police to have a greater presence on our streets they will have the option to draw on military support, where required, using tried and tested mechanisms.

""This would involve the military backfilling certain duties, such as office roles and guarding protected sites, so police officers can be out enforcing the virus response.

"This is not about providing any additional powers to the military, or them replacing the police in enforcement roles, and they will not be handing out fines. It is about freeing up more police officers."

The armed forces have been used throughout this crisis to help efforts to contain the virus.

During the UK's first lockdown they were used extensively to help in Nightingale hospitals and in complex logistical projects.

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1 minute ago, Champ said:

Where in Scotland were you planning to go? The restrictions in the central belt are brutal. And to add to the general vibe the Christmas and New Year events in Edinburgh have already been cancelled. 
We did everything we could to comply with the original lockdown but we can’t continue to live like this 

We were off to Saltcoats at the end of the month Cath, and Edinburgh for new year.

 

We're all struggling at the moment, but the lad is really having problems with his mental health, he's missed so much school outside of lockdown because he simply can't leave the house (has panic attacks), so I was hoping this would be a boon to him, help him get back on an even keel. We weren't arsed about the bars and restaurants being shut (they were due to be back open before we went anyway, although that wasn't certain), the change of scenery was the main reason for going.

 

Edinburgh will be a big miss, it's a place we love, but we haven't been as a family for years, we'd planned this as me and the better half have been married 10 years this year and the lad turns 16 so we thought it'd be a nice treat - on the backburner it goes.

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That's an interesting turn of events, the WHO coming out against lockdowns. I suppose everyone will stop calling me and SD all the cunts under the sun for agreeing with that sentiment now?

 

The WHO might catch up soon and come out against asymptomatic people wearing masks soon, too.

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6 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

That's an interesting turn of events, the WHO coming out against lockdowns. I suppose everyone will stop calling me and SD all the cunts under the sun for agreeing with that sentiment now?

 

The WHO might catch up soon and come out against asymptomatic people wearing masks soon, too.

That hasn't actually happened though

 

https://9now.nine.com.au/today/coronavirus-who-insists-decision-to-advise-against-lockdowns-is-not-a-backflip/ba52ac1e-08c0-445c-930f-05999968a4aa

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4 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

The WHO haven't come out against lockdowns?

Doesn't look like it, no. Looks like one person from WHO was misrepresented in The Spectator. 

 

"We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus."

 

I think the key word there is primary. 

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2 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

The rates in Greater Manchester are shocking too mate, why isn't that tier 3? Nottinghamshire, Leeds? Why is Liverpool City area the only tier 3 lockdown area?

 

It smacks of a political decision rather than a scientific one!

Well we've had a mayor begging for a full lockdown for about a month. He's pretty much getting his wish. 

4 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

The WHO haven't come out against lockdowns?

Of course they haven't. Read that article. They say they should be used as a last resort. We're in last resort territory and were in march. WHO will tell you it's all about test, track and trace, but our fuckwit government can't do that properly, so we're back to square one using last resort tactics. 

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7 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

They say they should be used as a last resort. We're in last resort territory and were in march. WHO will tell you it's all about test, track and trace, but our fuckwit government can't do that properly, so we're back to square one using last resort tactics. 

We're not at the stage of last resort though are we. Care staff are not exhausted, hospitals are not full.

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28 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

That's an interesting turn of events, the WHO coming out against lockdowns. I suppose everyone will stop calling me and SD all the cunts under the sun for agreeing with that sentiment now?

 

The WHO might catch up soon and come out against asymptomatic people wearing masks soon, too.

Jesus Christ. The fucking arrogance!  
 

Edit:  What he actually said;

 

Dr Nabarro made the statements in an interview with The Spectator.

"The only time we believe a lockdown in justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources; protect your health workers who are exhausted," Dr Nabarro said.

"But by and large, we'd rather not do it."

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4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Jesus Christ. The fucking arrogance!  
 

Edit:  What he actually said;

 

Dr Nabarro made the statements in an interview with The Spectator.

"The only time we believe a lockdown in justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources; protect your health workers who are exhausted," Dr Nabarro said.

"But by and large, we'd rather not do it."

Oh I'm sorry if I wasn't 100% specific. They are against lockdowns and only think they should be used as a last resort. 

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8 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

We're not at the stage of last resort though are we. Care staff are not exhausted, hospitals are not full.

Would you prefer to wait until they are?

 

We're at the stage of last resort because the track and trace system might as well have been designed by Simon.

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12 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Would you prefer to wait until they are?

 

We're at the stage of last resort because the track and trace system might as well have been designed by Simon.

I think we've miles beyond Track & Trace. This is endemic now. I would like to see a targeted approach.

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