Coronavirus

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Anubis said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hulk-hogan-coronavirus-vaccine-god-punishment-plagues-instagram-wwe-wrestling-a9452851.html

Hahahahaha well like I said. 

[Strontium]

I'm quite sure the councillors themselves aren't going around the streets testing everyone.

 

It's blatantly not true that "transmission is invisible". They have a good idea of where people are contracting the illness and who is spreading it.

 

Nevertheless, what a brave new world we're in when I'm being criticised for citing Labour councils.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

I'm quite sure the councillors themselves aren't going around the streets testing everyone.

 

It's blatantly not true that "transmission is invisible". They have a good idea of where people are contracting the illness and who is spreading it.

 

Nevertheless, what a brave new world we're in when I'm being criticised for citing Labour councils.

Are you saying transmission of this virus is visible? What does it look like? Does it jump? 

 

Why does that matter? What relevance? None. You're being criticised for yet again sharing and spouting complete and utter shit. 

 

 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

5 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Gupta and her mates have no consequence to being wrong. They should be asked to put some skin in the game.  Ok guys, we’ll take your strategy but if you’re wrong you spend the rest of your lives in prison. With Big Ron who’s in with the warders. 

This.

 

I want Gupta's head taken off if it goes wrong, and I want her family burned alive. 

There you go love, what good idea did you have again? 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Aside from the above, I want to know how many of the thousands of students infected this week have needed hospital treatment.  Where is that stat?

Locking kids in student halls, taking down the covid messages on their windows, is the most Chinese shit I've seen in this country.

This feels like breaking point, the Tories are really bending the fuck out of this dry stick and grinning about it.  'Fear' is really quickly turning to 'anger' among many in the country.

IDS was Tweeting today that we needed to do something about the 'epidemic of gaming addiction'.  Uwotm8? 

 

 

[Strontium]

11 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Are you saying transmission of this virus is visible? What does it look like? Does it jump? 

 

Why does that matter? What relevance? None. You're being criticised for yet again sharing and spouting complete and utter shit. 

 

No, as usual you're criticising me because you have a bizarre and unfathomable objection to the facts I'm posting.

 

Here's an article from the British Medical Journal, who I've no doubt will be the next people to be written off as cranks, apropos of absolutely nothing.

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3181

 

Quote

Current test and trace policies have mainly focused on preventing spread in care homes, hospitals, and in the community. However, contact within households is thought to be responsible for roughly 70% of SARS-CoV-2 transmission when widespread community control measures are in place.

 

Public Health England, more cranks.

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/covid-cases-where-spread-fastest-uk-not-pubs-resaurants-expert-explained-656077

 

Quote

Contact tracing data data from Public Health England (PHE) shows that socialising inside people’s homes is currently the primary driver of infections, while pubs and restaurants account for a very low percentage of transmission, Linda Bauld, Professor of Public Health at Edinburgh University, said.

 

Well, we all know Hancock is a liar, so you can disregard him if you want, but let's include him anyway.

 

https://en.mercopress.com/2020/08/20/most-people-catch-covid-19-in-house-to-house-transmission-uk-health-secretary-hancock

 

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Britain is unlikely to follow France in ordering people to wear face coverings at work because its test and trace scheme shows most people catch COVID-19 in house-to-house transmission, health secretary Matt Hancock said on Wednesday (Aug 19).

“We are not currently considering doing that,” he told BBC TV, when asked if Britain would impose masks at workplaces as in France. “The reason is that the evidence from NHS Test and Trace for where people catch the disease is that, very largely, they catch it from one household meeting another household, usually in one of their homes”

 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

No, as usual you're criticising me because you have a bizarre and unfathomable objection to the facts I'm posting.

 

Here's an article from the British Medical Journal, who I've no doubt will be the next people to be written off as cranks, apropos of absolutely nothing.

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3181

 

 

 

 

Public Health England, more cranks.

 

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/covid-cases-where-spread-fastest-uk-not-pubs-resaurants-expert-explained-656077

 

 

 

 

Well, we all know Hancock is a liar, so you can disregard him if you want, but let's include him anyway.

 

https://en.mercopress.com/2020/08/20/most-people-catch-covid-19-in-house-to-house-transmission-uk-health-secretary-hancock

 

 

 

"bizarre, unfathomable" No SD. Show me actual evidence that 70% of covid transmissions are in the home. I'll wait. 

 

I'm still waiting for you to explain how transmission is visible. 

[cloggypop]

25 minutes ago, Anubis said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hulk-hogan-coronavirus-vaccine-god-punishment-plagues-instagram-wwe-wrestling-a9452851.html

Surprised Spy Bee hasn't brought him up yet

[Strontium]

12 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

"bizarre, unfathomable" No SD. Show me actual evidence that 70% of covid transmissions are in the home. I'll wait. 

 

I'm still waiting for you to explain how transmission is visible. 

 

I've just given you sources. Do you think the BMJ and PHE and NHS track and trace are just making it up?

 

Nothing I post will ever be good enough for you, even though you have literally nothing to suggest it's wrong. 

[Red Phoenix]

58 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

Isn't most transmission occurring in homes?

 

I'm totally fine with that theory, what I'd like to know is how much of that is due to kids returning from school with it, then spreading it around the households to start with.

 

I'm not even raging about it this time around (deleted my twitter account again too where I was going on about it last time, sick of the place), maybe there's ways of making it work without them even being mass closed, but what's currently happening doesn't seem to be doing shit apart from making it way worse. And I think the huge upward curve we often see on graphs now appears not long after schools opened again.

 

Saying that though it's not like they could focus on schools and ignore everything else either. But the economy is god to the Tories (along with keeping schools open now too apparently) so we know they'll not want to do much. Or if they do, it won't last long enough to make a real difference.

[TheHowieLama]

Heh, Stronts be Strontsing.

These are articles from months ago - one specifically states that the 70% estimated transmission rate quoted was during full Wuhan lockdown.

 

This is Hancock's summary:

“The amount of people who have caught it in workplaces is relatively low we think from the evidence that we have got.”

 

Keep in mind this "data" is from months ago and was based on the NHS Test/Trace system that was amongst the worst in the world.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I'm totally fine with that theory, what I'd like to know is how much of that is due to kids returning from school with it, then spreading it around the households to start with.

 

I'm not even raging about it this time around (deleted my twitter account again too where I was going on about it last time, sick of the place), maybe there's ways of making it work without them even being mass closed, but what's currently happening doesn't seem to be doing shit apart from making it way worse. And I think the huge upward curve we often see on graphs now appears not long after schools opened again.

 

Saying that though it's not like they could focus on schools and ignore everything else either. But the economy is god to the Tories (along with keeping schools open now too apparently) so we know they'll not want to do much. Or if they do, it won't last long enough to make a real difference.

Unless it was a wild and random coincidence that kids returned to school the within a fortnight the numbers shot through the roof, it's fairly obvious that schools opening was the weight that tipped the seesaw. Anyone who has seen what school kids are doing out on the streets when they're not in school would be in no doubt that kids travelling to and from school is the breeding ground.

[TheHowieLama]

3 minutes ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

Nothing I post will ever be good enough for you

Just try to use current sources with data from England as a start.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Stront19m Dog™ said:

 

I've just given you sources. Do you think the BMJ and PHE and NHS track and trace are just making it up?

 

Nothing I post will ever be good enough for you, even though you have literally nothing to suggest it's wrong. 

Sources that don't have any actual evidence. Its nothing personal SD I just don't see how they can pinpoint transmissions on that scale. I also disagreed with you from the start that the reaction to the virus was embarrassing and object to your arrogant dismissal of masks. 

 

I think you'll find I agreed with you on the cancel culture thread today. I often agree with you. 

 

Still waiting to see how transmission is visible though. I suspect I'll be waiting a long time for that as well. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Heh, Stronts be Strontsing.

These are articles from months ago - one specifically states that the 70% estimated transmission rate quoted was during full Wuhan lockdown.

 

This is Hancock's summary:

“The amount of people who have caught it in workplaces is relatively low we think from the evidence that we have got.”

 

Keep in mind this "data" is from months ago and was based on the NHS Test/Trace system that was amongst the worst in the world.

I find his posts entertaining but as believable as an episode of Star Trek. And yes I mean the original TV series.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Heh, Stronts be Strontsing.

These are articles from months ago - one specifically states that the 70% estimated transmission rate quoted was during full Wuhan lockdown.

 

This is Hancock's summary:

“The amount of people who have caught it in workplaces is relatively low we think from the evidence that we have got.”

 

Keep in mind this "data" is from months ago and was based on the NHS Test/Trace system that was amongst the worst in the world.

When hardly anybody was in work either hahaha fuck sake 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Sources that don't have any actual evidence. Its nothing personal SD I just don't see how they can pinpoint transmissions on that scale. I also disagreed with you from the start that the reaction to the virus was embarrassing and object to your arrogant dismissal of masks. 

 

I think you'll find I agreed with you on the cancel culture thread today. I often agree with you. 

 

Still waiting to see how transmission is visible though. I suspect I'll be waiting a long time for that as well. 

Embarrassing...

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/08/hospitals-in-north-of-england-to-run-out-of-covid-beds-within-a-week?CMP=share_btn_tw&__twitter_impression=true

[Colonel Bumcunt]

Covid Ideas

 

• We need a 1 week national lockdown now, that buys us a week to act. 
• There's a ton of jets just sat idle on tarmac, let's get some free flights to New Zealand for anyone over 60, and let's massively subsidise their accommodation, stay there for five months.  Normal life, and it's summer there.  It supports NZ economy, so they should welcome it, everyone tested on entry, all safe and able to enjoy life away from covid. 
• Separate shopping experiences by age.  IE, anyone under 50 can shop in Asda/Lidl/Aldi/etc and those over 50 can shop in Tesco/Sainsburys/Marks etc. 
• Nobody over 65 allowed on public transport.  State will pay for reduced fare Uber and cabs etc. 
• Nightingale hospitals need to be opened now, only treating Covid patients. 
• Thousands in the military need to be retrained quickly to be nurses and hospital staff.
• Minimum wage needs to go up by £5 now.  We need people under 30 propping up the hospitality sector and the arts. We need to stop exploiting low pay for younger workers, they need to feel valued and be put to work to help the country through the next 6 months. 

yknow cmon

 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

7 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Thats this thread during the afternoons when Spy Bee is around. Look at him stood there directing it, loving life. 

[Red Phoenix]

11 minutes ago, Fluter in Dakota said:

Unless it was a wild and random coincidence that kids returned to school the within a fortnight the numbers shot through the roof, it's fairly obvious that schools opening was the weight that tipped the seesaw. Anyone who has seen what school kids are doing out on the streets when they're not in school would be in no doubt that kids travelling to and from school is the breeding ground.

 

It'll probably be accepted eventually but only when a load more damage has been done. Maybe as that Torygraph writer said months back, there's still some "culling of elderly dependents" to be done before the virus is taken seriously again.

[cloggypop]

There's 12 million people over 65 in the UK, not sure how many over 60. I'm sure New Zealand would love to take them in and manage the problem. 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

 

[Barrington Womble]

40 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

"bizarre, unfathomable" No SD. Show me actual evidence that 70% of covid transmissions are in the home. I'll wait. 

 

I'm still waiting for you to explain how transmission is visible. 

even if most of the transmission is in the home, it doesn't start there does it? it starts with someone outside their home who takes it home and infects the whole family. 

[Anubis]

A brilliant suggestion - let’s turn average British squddies into nurses (2-4 years study) and doctors (10 years - 5 studying and 5 as a junior) with a compressed two week crash course.

 

If only we’d thought of this before hiring qualified personnel from other countries to tackle the NHS staff shortages.