Coronavirus

[clockspeed]

1 minute ago, TK421 said:

I think the death toll over the last couple of days is indicative of the NHS being overwhelmed.  

Jesus you don't need to be arguing about exponential or exponential rate with that number. I know I predicted a tusnami of cases but even I did not think we would have hit 500 plus per day at this stage . Thought the 1k per day would.be next week not this. 

[Spy Bee]

4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I think the death toll over the last couple of days is indicative of the NHS being overwhelmed.  

There are 1257 hospitals in the UK and approximately 1600 people died every day prior to Covid-19.

[Leyton388]

3 minutes ago, TK421 said:

I think the death toll over the last couple of days is indicative of the NHS being overwhelmed.  

Tory austerity is now being shown for what it is. Costing peoples lives. They've decimated the NHS to the point where it cant cope and people are dying. I wonder how many of those deaths were preventable if the NHS has enough ventilators.  Only 8000 in the entire NHS. 

 

David Cameron should be jailed for this. 

[Spy Bee]

They said deaths would double every 2 to 3 days... that seems to be accurate, but as far as I know they didn't put an upper limit on that.

[Pureblood]

1 minute ago, Spy Bee said:

There are 1257 hospitals in the UK and approximately 1600 people died every day prior to Covid-19.

Yes, this is all fine. We're doing fine.

[clockspeed]

Will go and find the link but I read somewhere today drs expect 80%of those admitted to intensive care with covid 19 to die. Maybe I had that wrong way around will go check.

[redinblack62]

2 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

Tory austerity is now being shown for what it is. Costing peoples lives. They've decimated the NHS to the point where it cant cope and people are dying. I wonder how many of those deaths were preventable if the NHS has enough ventilators.  Only 8000 in the entire NHS. 

 

David Cameron should be jailed for this. 

And George Osbourne. And those who facliitated austerity by propping up a minority government.

[Spy Bee]

Just now, TK421 said:

Yes, this is all fine. We're doing fine.

No room for nuance.

 

Doing fine (BIG FUCKING GAP) NHS overwhelmed

[Pureblood]

Just now, Spy Bee said:

They said deaths would double every 2 to 3 days... that seems to be accurate, but as far as I know they didn't put an upper limit on that.

Prof Tom Pike put an upper limit on it of 260 per day.  

[Scott_M]

Shit.

 

[Pureblood]

Just now, Spy Bee said:

No room for nuance.

 

Doing fine (BIG FUCKING GAP) NHS overwhelmed

You're an idiot. You got all excited a couple of days ago when the death toll was 180. You're a fucking idiot with a slim grasp on reality. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

It's all rather sad, not good for anybody who has older family/relatives/friends who are unlucky enough to get this virus. Those poor NHS workers must be tearing their hair out and will be physiologically sacred for life. 

[Spy Bee]

1 minute ago, TK421 said:

You're an idiot. You got all excited a couple of days ago when the death toll was 180. You're a fucking idiot with a slim grasp on reality. 

You're a drama queen.

[Pureblood]

3 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

It's all rather sad, not good for anybody who has older family/relatives/friends who are unlucky enough to get this virus. Those poor NHS workers must be tearing their hair out and will be physiologically sacred for life. 

Drama queen. 

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

 

The levels of organisation in this hospital are just extraordinary.

 

Now imagine our run down hospitals where staff still don't have appropriate PPE.

[clockspeed]

Which minister is being wheeled out today to skim over the figures and give the green shoots soundbite ?

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

Tempted to go back to the first pages in this and see all the people bleating about it being "just the flu for fucks sake"

I thought along these lines at the beginning but seeing the video from an Italian hospital with so many people suffering was without a doubt the wake-up call for me that this was very different. 

[Leyton388]

The more I'm seeing on the news having been cooked up in my home for near 2 weeks the more my anger is boiling over with these daily death counts increasing. 

 

 

[Scott_M]

4 minutes ago, clockspeed said:

Which minister is being wheeled out today to skim over the figures and give the green shoots soundbite ?

“Record deaths again today but we can see the green shoots of recovery”.

[Pureblood]

Looks like face masks will be compulsory in Germany soon. Also talk that the CDC will issue similar guidance in the USA.  We need to follow suit. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/calls-grow-for-germany-wide-use-of-face-masks-covid-19

[Leyton388]

2 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Looks like face masks will be compulsory in Germany soon. Also talk that the CDC will issue similar guidance in the USA.  We need to follow suit. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/calls-grow-for-germany-wide-use-of-face-masks-covid-19

And the irony that China will be selling them to us. 

[SasaS]

3 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Looks like face masks will be compulsory in Germany soon. Also talk that the CDC will issue similar guidance in the USA.  We need to follow suit. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/calls-grow-for-germany-wide-use-of-face-masks-covid-19

The problem is, there is not enough proper masks, and stuff people make at home, experts say is pontless.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Looks like face masks will be compulsory in Germany soon. Also talk that the CDC will issue similar guidance in the USA.  We need to follow suit. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/31/calls-grow-for-germany-wide-use-of-face-masks-covid-19

 

That is only being mentioned in certain states. Whether or not it becomes mandatory remains to be seen. They may follow Austria in that this will only be the case when using shops or public transport. 

[Pureblood]

Just now, SasaS said:

The problem is, there is not enough proper masks, and stuff people make at home, experts say is pontless.

I vehemently disagree. Any mask > no mask.  Supermarkets are giving them out for free in Austria.  If we can afford HS2 we can afford free face masks for all.  This isn't a dress rehearsal, many thousands will die. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

2 minutes ago, SasaS said:

The problem is, there is not enough proper masks, and stuff people make at home, experts say is pontless.

 

I was just about to say that the majority of these masks are utterly useless, that came from a surgeon in the hospital I was in. They also are supposed to be disposed of after using them once, but because people are paying for them themselves they use them for weeks on end.