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11 hours ago, TK421 said:

I don't know, I just don't buy the whole "oops a daisy our maths was wrong" thing they came out with.  I think they knew.  

I've said for a few weeks in this country we were 100% ploughing into herd immunity, being the only country to talk about it. Then we were widely slaughtered and ridiculed by international scientists about the policy, so they knew for their "optics" they had to back away. So we carried on regardless and just stopped calling it herd immunity. Listen to any press conference each day and they continually mention about it was always their plan to put the right measures in at the right time. The plan has never changed. The imposition of restrictions was always planned to happen, but happen when enough of us have it so it runs through the population through the spring and summer.

 

The only thing that has fucked that plan is how long people are spending in hospital, so while we had the chance early on to buy more ventilators, PPE  and prepare these temporary hospitals, we thought we didn't need them, so the government sat on their hands patting each other on the backs on how much money they'd saved. That worked well. But I think you're 100% correct, the government are aiming for just about everyone to catch this. 

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2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

I think the confusion is because his name is William Thomas Pike : https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.25.20041475v1.article-info

 

Or that from searching around you can find Tom Pike, William Thomas Pike, Professor William Pike or Dr Tom Pike.

 

He needs to get this sorted out I think and make sure people use the right name. I'm voting for Professor Thomas Dr.


Almost as if someone advised him not to tell them his name.

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11 minutes ago, Anubis said:

As I understand it she wasn’t saying we’d be locked down for six months, only that it’ll take six months to return to relative normality.

Yes, but that seems incredibly optimistic.

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3 hours ago, Lee909 said:

EDIT, BEATEN TO IT

 

 

A bit of a breakthrough on helping systems hopefully 

 

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These CPAP machines are used to aid patients with Sleep APNOE. I was put on one during my hospital stay due to my breathing difficulties, I've been using one at home for quite a while now and they certainly help during the night hours.

I have this one. (obviously you attach a tube to it and you have a mask at the other end.)

Pack PRISMA SMART + Humidificateur PRISMA AQUA

 

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1 minute ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Dominic Cummings is self isolating after developing Coronavirus like symptoms. 

 

Oops! 

 

Like a game of Corona Bingo, House! 

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18 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Dominic Cummings is self isolating after developing Coronavirus like symptoms. 

 

Oops! 

He must be delighted, he's getting a chance to put his herd immunity theory into practice.

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48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

You got in also? St Edmunds, PPE, 2004. Fuck it must be easy, I'll rethink the whole thing.

I said that I could assure you that it isn't easy. And yes, I'm well educated. Not that it means all that much. Many people who go through Russel Group or Ivy League educations are thick as pig shit. 

 

48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Please don't, I can copy and paste my own Daily Mail think pieces.

Ah, flippancy. What an endearing quality. You've done this 'say a thing and hope it sticks' thing a few times. I'll just calmly say no, it's not Daily Mail links. 

 

 

 

Now, you can wave that away as me swallowing what the media say, but it's Dianna Abbott doing the talking. 

 

48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

I think it's obvious, don't be obtuse.

I'm not the one being obtuse, it's just that the point you were alluding too but wouldn't say is ridiculous and doesn't make any sense. 

 

48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

With most things context is key and you've not given any, not the copy and paste shite, but historical, cultural and situational context which surrounds these remarks.

Oh, for fuck sake. Now who is swallowing what they're told. That was her excuse, but as it was quickly pointed out to her, she used it regarding the Stephen Lawrence case. This isn't, as she tried to claim with lies, a reference to 'British Empire' or 'Colonialism'. 

 

There is some other context that I'd like to give you though, which is that had Labour won the election, she would have been in charge of MI5, counter terrorism, the police, etc. I'm not going to apologise for thinking she's an absolute shambles on that scale just because she's a black woman. Her being a black woman means nothing to me, her being competent means a lot to me. Just as it does with Johnson and Osborne. 

 

48 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

She recieves a special level of vitriol because she's a convienant and easy target.

Not from me she doesn't. The question was asked. You don't seem to like the answer. That's fair enough. The only reason I piped up was because you tried to defend her character and ability with her race and gender. That's out of line, in my opinion. You can very well dislike Dianne Abbott without being a racist or misogynist, just as you can accept she does good community work without wanting her to be in charge of MI5 or, you know, basic arithmetic. \

 

As for yelling into the void... well, yeah, I'm going to respond. You don't have to, which will make it stop. If you reply again, especially by calling me obtuse and implying I can't think for myself, then I'll probably respond. If you don't, I won't.

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Cummings will just endlessly repeat a few devastatingly clever psy-ops level soundbites at the virus for 3 weeks, until it caves in and does what he wants.
 

Or kills him. 

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Strange 

43 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Dominic Cummings is self isolating after developing Coronavirus like symptoms. 

 

Oops! 


Guess he’ll still be herd but not seen..
 

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In lighter news, pioneering fitness star Mr Motivator returned to the nation’s television screens this morning.

 

The presenter, best known for his GMTV appearances in the 1990s, is offering tips on the newly commissioned HealthCheck UK Live, on weekdays at 10am on BBC One.

 

Last week, the ‘fitness hero’ told the Guardian he did not feel threatened by the success of YouTube star Joe Wicks. “Motivator – you mention my name, and everybody knows Motivator. Walk down the road right now – well, not right now – and they know Motivator,” he said.

 

 

Fight. Fight. Fight.

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Gnasher, is that you?

 

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Police have Tasered a man who claimed to have Covid-19 and deliberately coughed on officers as they sat in a car.

 

The Metropolitan police firearms command said on Twitter that the suspect had approached the officers in Haringey, north London “and shouted that he had coronavirus before deliberately coughing saliva all over them”.

 

He also began to physically attack them before he was Tasered and arrested, the force said.

 

The suspect later tested positive for the virus.

 

Joking aside, this dickhead approached SO19 officers, so he was lucky he wasn't shot, not just tasered.

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That should be attempted murder.

 

Cunt.

 

Edit: Unless he was practising herd immunity, and was just doing his part.

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2 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

It's not legimate though is it?

 

What policies do you disagree with, what motions she has presented do you disagree with, what stance has she taken that irks you so?

 

If you can point those out I'd say you had a point, but like dulled pencil you're fucking pointless.

 

None, she's ridiculed because she's an easy target for the rags, and if that's dog whistling because of the above identifiers then is predjudicial and not based on the excellent community work, which I see at close quarters on a daily basis, that she does.

Now who is acting the genuine cunt? 

 

Fuck off!

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1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

As it would be with anyone else. The difference is that for her it was in the press for a month, and is still occasionally in the press as a joke now. This isn't the same for other ministers, of any party. 

 

There simply wasn't much of an aftermath to handle for anyone else. 

 

Michael Gove botched the figures several times during an interview in the run up to the 2017 election. It no longer is in the public conscious.

 

Phillip Hammond did the same.

 

Dawn Butler did last year.

 

Countless other examples, but the "minister that fucked up the numbers" example is always Diane Abbott. Because she got crucified and the others didn't.

I've just listened to the interview just to be sure. Its an absolute clusterfuck, she starts off saying it will cost £300,000 over 4 years for 10,000 policemen then goes on to say its actually 250,000 and so on. Its way worse than other examples of getting figures wrong and deserves way worse ridicule, which it has got. Remember police recruitment was under her responsibility as shadow home secretary.

 

I get your point about because she is who she is she got worse, but really in this case she deserved it.

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54 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I said that I could assure you that it isn't easy. And yes, I'm well educated. Not that it means all that much. Many people who go through Russel Group or Ivy League educations are thick as pig shit. 

 

Ah, flippancy. What an endearing quality. You've done this 'say a thing and hope it sticks' thing a few times. I'll just calmly say no, it's not Daily Mail links. 

 

 

 

Now, you can wave that away as me swallowing what the media say, but it's Dianna Abbott doing the talking. 

 

I'm not the one being obtuse, it's just that the point you were alluding too but wouldn't say is ridiculous and doesn't make any sense. 

 

Oh, for fuck sake. Now who is swallowing what they're told. That was her excuse, but as it was quickly pointed out to her, she used it regarding the Stephen Lawrence case. This isn't, as she tried to claim with lies, a reference to 'British Empire' or 'Colonialism'. 

 

There is some other context that I'd like to give you though, which is that had Labour won the election, she would have been in charge of MI5, counter terrorism, the police, etc. I'm not going to apologise for thinking she's an absolute shambles on that scale just because she's a black woman. Her being a black woman means nothing to me, her being competent means a lot to me. Just as it does with Johnson and Osborne. 

 

Not from me she doesn't. The question was asked. You don't seem to like the answer. That's fair enough. The only reason I piped up was because you tried to defend her character and ability with her race and gender. That's out of line, in my opinion. You can very well dislike Dianne Abbott without being a racist or misogynist, just as you can accept she does good community work without wanting her to be in charge of MI5 or, you know, basic arithmetic. \

 

As for yelling into the void... well, yeah, I'm going to respond. You don't have to, which will make it stop. If you reply again, especially by calling me obtuse and implying I can't think for myself, then I'll probably respond. If you don't, I won't.


You produced two videos from a few years back to defend points from decades ago, disingenuous at best, well done.

 

On the other points, I genuinely couldn’t care what you think about the context bound points as the idea of race as significant has clearly passed you by, currently and historically speaking, which leaves us with a zero sum argument as neither will ever convince the other through our own confirmation bias.

 

I finished with circumstance ad hominem arguments when I left sixth form.

 

PS I agree she isn’t particularly suited to front line politics, so there’s some common ground at least.

 

Stay safe

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Am I still allowed to say her haircut reminds me of Rick Moranis from Spaceballs?

Only in conjunction with "shes an excellent constituency MP and is unfairly picked on"

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