Coronavirus

[Red Phoenix]

3 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

Chuck up the equivalent for Paracetamol, there's a good chap.

 

Looking up paracetamol doesn't negate the effects of mrna that's been around for just over 1 year.

[TD_LFC]

Didn't say it did?

[Red Phoenix]

Just now, TD_LFC said:

Didn't say it did?

 

I'm sure you can check paracetamol yourself, it just seems like you're trying to switch the subject on to something else.

[Bjornebye]

31 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Now that Omicron is the dominant strain, that distinction might actually be worth making (although not in such crude terms). Previously, when people (as almost all dead people tend to do) have multiple causes listed on their death certificates, it was likely that Covid was the one that made the difference between being alive and being not alive.  These days, that's not so clear.

Yeah but if someone gets mauled to death by a bear it’s still because they’ve had the jab right? 

18 minutes ago, sh#t waffle said:

Tested positive this morning. Felt absolutely god awful yesterday, but actually a little better today. Weirdly, on Tuesday night I lost my sense of taste and smell for a couple of hours, but tested negative and put it down to having caught a weird bug/cold from my 18 month old (who has been feeling awful all week). Yet both he and my wife tested negative this morning.

 

Not quite sure how we're going to make the next 5+ days work in a 2 bedroom flat with a screaming toddler...

Good luck mate ! Go balls deep into some Netflix series 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah but if someone gets mauled to death by a bear it’s still because they’ve had the jab right? 

 

Probably at least one jab involved in that scenario. 
 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

19 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Maybe a lot of people aren't focusing on the positive effects of the vaccines because they've caused so much damage. The type of damage that's almost competely ignored on here.

 

Adverse effects are "fuck all" compared to covid, including long terms effects too, ok. Glad you managed to somehow work that out. Here's adverse reporting for one vaccine in just the EU :

 

 

It can't be direct linked I don't think, you have to go from here : https://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html

 

Doesn't look like fuck all to me, and that's data on one vaccine for one continent. Vaccines can help to save lives, we're now past the point of pretending they're not causing a load of damage at the same time though.

Compared to 150,000 deaths - plus millions more serious illnesses - in just one country, those negative reactions are what statisticians call "fuck all".

 

You can avoid the risk of vaccine harms by refusing the vaccine, just like you can avoid the risk of stepping in dogshit by walking down the fast lane of a motorway.

[Rico1304]

 

[Mudface]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Compared to 150,000 deaths - plus millions more serious illnesses - in just one country, those negative reactions are what statisticians call "fuck all".

 

You can avoid the risk of vaccine harms by refusing the vaccine, just like you can avoid the risk of stepping in dogshit by walking down the fast lane of a motorway.

Woah there. There is some serious stuff in there- the top four, 'administration site conditions', 'nervous system disorders', 'musculoskeletal disorders' and 'gastrointestinal disorders' all sound horrific and there's hundreds of thousands of them.

 

Until of course you realise that this covers getting on for half a billion people and probably a billion doses or more of the drug, and that 'sore arms, headaches and upset stomachs' are fuck all to worry about, certainly when compared to, 'dying on a ventilator' or 'being fucked with long Covid'.

 

Also, same as the US one that TK and Iceman got all excited about, there are multiple caveats on the site, like these-

 

The information on this website does not reflect any confirmation of a potential link between the medicine and the observed effect(s).

The information on this website concerns suspected associations that reflect the reporter's observations and opinions. A scientific assessment of a cause-and-effect relationship between a medicine and an effect is part of the continuous monitoring of the benefits and risks of a medicine; the assessment takes into account many other factors, such as the medical condition and the medical history of the patient.
The information may include known side effects already listed in the summary of product characteristics (SmPC) and the package leaflet.
The number of suspected side effects in EudraVigilance should not serve as a basis for determining the likelihood of a side effect occurring. This is because the numbers need to be put into context with other factors, such as how many people take the medicine and how long the medicine has been on the market.
Each individual case in EudraVigilance refers generally to a single patient; however, more than one side effect may have been reported in a report. Therefore, the number of side effects will not always be the same as the number of individual cases.
The side-effect reports in EudraVigilance do not represent all available information concerning the benefits and risks of a medicine and should not be used in isolation to make decisions regarding a patient's treatment regimen; other sources of information, including the product/prescribing information, should be consulted first.
Patients and consumers should not stop or change prescribed medication without prior consultation with a healthcare professional.

[Red Phoenix]

At the end of the day people can argue on here as much as they want, but we have a milder omicron all over the place now and people all over the world are trying to get back to some type of reality again. No amount of rage on here is changing that fact.

[TD_LFC]

3 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

At the end of the day people can argue on here as much as they want, but we have a milder omicron all over the place now and people all over the world are trying to get back to some type of reality again. No amount of rage on here is changing that fact.

Isn't the rage coming from you?

[Red Phoenix]

Just now, TD_LFC said:

Isn't the rage coming from you?

 

If I'm raging against the covid regime others here are raging against the anti-vaxxers. It makes no difference ultimately, people all over the world are still moving back towards reality after two years of this because omicron is milder.

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

At the end of the day people can argue on here as much as they want, but we have a milder omicron all over the place now and people all over the world are trying to get back to some type of reality again. No amount of rage on here is changing that fact.

Who are the ones blockading the Canada/US border in trucks? Who are the ones intimidating health workers? 

 

Oh, right. 

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Who are the ones blockading the Canada/US border in trucks?

 

They're trying to get the Canadian gov and provinces to drop restrictions and stupid shit like fining unvaccinated and it's working. And this weekend it's probably going to work some more.

 

 

[Mudface]

5 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If I'm raging against the covid regime others here are raging against the anti-vaxxers. It makes no difference ultimately, people all over the world are still moving back towards reality after two years of this because omicron is milder.

And it's still killing and hospitalising a lot of people. Probably needlessly so if they're unvaccinated.

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, Mudface said:

And it's still killing and hospitalising a lot of people. Probably needlessly so if they're unvaccinated.

 

I never said it wasn't doing that.

[Red Phoenix]

 

[Rico1304]

26 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

At the end of the day people can argue on here as much as they want, but we have a milder omicron all over the place now and people all over the world are trying to get back to some type of reality again. No amount of rage on here is changing that fact.

Lucky weren’t we?  Thanks for all your help and allowing us to take the risks for you.  

[Red Phoenix]

19 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Lucky weren’t we?  Thanks for all your help and allowing us to take the risks for you.  

 

I've stayed inside most of the last two years (and the most recent part of it being gaslighted with media propaganda like I'm some type of lower class citizen) so I don't have to listen to guilt tripping about not having taken an mrna vaccine thanks.

[Bjornebye]

33 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

They're trying to get the Canadian gov and provinces to drop restrictions and stupid shit like fining unvaccinated and it's working. And this weekend it's probably going to work some more.

 

 

And those intimidating healthcare workers? Trying to arrest police with fake crime numbers etc etc etc ETC 

 

The aggro is coming from one side. You're clearly so lost in this you will never realise just how full of it you are. 

[Red Phoenix]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

And those intimidating healthcare workers? Trying to arrest police with fake crime numbers etc etc etc ETC 

 

The aggro is coming from one side. You're clearly so lost in this you will never realise just how full of it you are. 

 

Off we go again with me having to disavow extreme anti-vaxxers, surprise.

[Red Phoenix]

It's all gone a bit authoritiarian socialist when it comes to covid I think. I prefer libertarian socialism.

[Bjornebye]

58 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

At the end of the day people can argue on here as much as they want, but we have a milder omicron all over the place now and people all over the world are trying to get back to some type of reality again. No amount of rage on here is changing that fact.

 

9 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Off we go again with me having to disavow extreme anti-vaxxers, surprise.

 

4 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

It's all gone a bit authoritiarian socialist when it comes to covid I think. I prefer libertarian socialism.

You might want to read what you write RP.  You spout all sorts about rage and authoritarianism while justifying the actions of idiots and acting attacked when people disagree with you. It is right to point out the actions of these dickheads because they are making peoples lives a misery. People who are just trying to get on with their own lives. 

[Red Phoenix]

3 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

You might want to read what you write RP.  You spout all sorts about rage and authoritarianism while justifying the actions of idiots and acting attacked when people disagree with you. It is right to point out the actions of these dickheads because they are making peoples lives a misery. People who are just trying to get on with their own lives. 

 

Yes I'm clearly a raging authoritarian. I'll go back to the other thread I think.

 

[Bjornebye]

7 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Yes I'm clearly a raging authoritarian. I'll go back to the other thread I think.

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

If I'm raging against the covid regime others here are raging against the anti-vaxxers. It makes no difference ultimately, people all over the world are still moving back towards reality after two years of this because omicron is milder.

We're getting back to some semblance of the mainly because of the vaccines. Anti-vaxxers slow the progress towards normality and that's why we're rightly angry at the cunts.