Coronavirus

[Spy Bee 3,535]

17 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Like masks, lockdowns, distancing and vaccines.

They're doing a fine job in France

 

[TD_LFC 905]

"Some experts have suggested that France’s infection numbers are pushed up by the fact that people who return a positive result using a self-administered test have been encouraged to take a confirmatory PCR test, meaning that there could potentially be two results recorded for the same person."

 

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However, others believe that the current infection rates have less to do with testing systems than with public behaviour. 

Professor Gilles Pialoux, who heads up the infectious diseases department of Paris’ Hôpital Tenon, told Le Monde that there is now a “reduced adherence to barrier gestures, reflected in all lines of enquiry. Masks, hand-washing, social distancing, working from home: since the last four months of 2021 we have seen a relaxation of these behaviours.

Prof Pialoux also cited “the mind-blowing rate of circulation among children, which increased by 56% in the second week of the year, just after they went back to school.

“This is considerable. Their parents are the next to be affected through familial contact, and then comes everyone else.”

France’s Conseil scientifique government advisory body has also suggested that the sharp rise in Covid cases observed throughout this month is in part linked to the return to school after the Christmas holidays.

“If it is proven that the epidemic resurgence observed is indeed linked to a very active circulation of the virus in primary schools, nurseries and creches, it would be useful to allocate additional measures to reinforce the Covid testing and prevention rules in educational settings as soon as possible,” it said.

Finally, Prof Pialoux added that: “The incapacity to hear anything other than the reassuring idea that Omicron is not that bad, that this ‘bad cold’ will provide herd immunity, that we have avoided the worst” has perhaps led people to relax their infection control efforts. "

[Pureblood 7,454]

 

[Strontium 11,269]

3 hours ago, Spy Bee said:

They're doing a fine job in France

 

 

[SasaS 3,215]

6 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

"Some experts have suggested that France’s infection numbers are pushed up by the fact that people who return a positive result using a self-administered test have been encouraged to take a confirmatory PCR test, meaning that there could potentially be two results recorded for the same person."

 

"

However, others believe that the current infection rates have less to do with testing systems than with public behaviour. 

Professor Gilles Pialoux, who heads up the infectious diseases department of Paris’ Hôpital Tenon, told Le Monde that there is now a “reduced adherence to barrier gestures, reflected in all lines of enquiry. Masks, hand-washing, social distancing, working from home: since the last four months of 2021 we have seen a relaxation of these behaviours.

Prof Pialoux also cited “the mind-blowing rate of circulation among children, which increased by 56% in the second week of the year, just after they went back to school.

“This is considerable. Their parents are the next to be affected through familial contact, and then comes everyone else.”

France’s Conseil scientifique government advisory body has also suggested that the sharp rise in Covid cases observed throughout this month is in part linked to the return to school after the Christmas holidays.

“If it is proven that the epidemic resurgence observed is indeed linked to a very active circulation of the virus in primary schools, nurseries and creches, it would be useful to allocate additional measures to reinforce the Covid testing and prevention rules in educational settings as soon as possible,” it said.

Finally, Prof Pialoux added that: “The incapacity to hear anything other than the reassuring idea that Omicron is not that bad, that this ‘bad cold’ will provide herd immunity, that we have avoided the worst” has perhaps led people to relax their infection control efforts. "

Denmark has been getting roughly the same numbers and they are more hygge than hugs (and kisses). To me, how quickly the case numbers went down in the UK is a bigger suprise than France. Belgium is similar, with case nubers.

[Chris 1,424]

Feels like we're levelling out again now and the new 'living with it' is going to be 100,000 cases a day, where it was about 30,000 before omicron. 

[Bjornebye 33,848]

Cunts

 

 

 

 

 

[Captain Willard 790]

On 27/11/2021 at 18:12, Rico1304 said:

Yes, working hard to improve a vaccine and making it available to everyone for free is EXACTLY what a facist regime would do.  Page 7 of the playbook.  

Ha ha. I think there is a strong inverse correlation between how facist a government is and how easy it is to call them facists on Internet forums without fear of retribution. 

[Captain Willard 790]

Both the twins she Mrs Willard have tested positive today. Mrs Willard now lying on the sofa sick as a dog despite being double jabbed and boosted. The downside is she is insisting on the front room being heated like a sauna. I could genuinely bake bread in here tonight. I’m the real victim in this. 

[Sugar Ape 14,307]

Tested positive myself before. I know you can leave isolation early now if you test negative on the lateral flows, but the app is  saying I have to isolate for 11 days! I thought it was only ten days maximum to begin with. 
 

 

[Kevin D 9,593]

45 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

Tested positive myself before. I know you can leave isolation early now if you test negative on the lateral flows, but the app is  saying I have to isolate for 11 days! I thought it was only ten days maximum to begin with. 
 

 

 

Chancer.

[Nelly-Matip 8,497]

https://www.dn.pt/sociedade/miocardite-por-infecao-e-60-vezes-mais-frequente-do-que-apos-vacina-14527778.html

 

 

Infection myocarditis is 60 times more common than after vaccination

 

The opinion of the National Program for Cerebro-Cardiovascular Diseases, of the DGS, indicates that myocarditis in pediatric age after vaccination "is very rare, presents with mild symptoms, rapid evolution and does not appear to have complications or long-term sequelae".

[Carradona 801]

Why aren't the loons sticking to their own thread?

 

It was going well there for a while when it had fallen away from the first page of the GF.

[Pureblood 7,454]

2 minutes ago, Carradona said:

Why aren't the loons sticking to their own thread?

 

It was going well there for a while when it had fallen away from the first page of the GF.

Hiya mate, y'alright? 

[Red Phoenix 1,961]

2 hours ago, Carradona said:

Why aren't the loons sticking to their own thread?

 

[AngryOfTuebrook 24,588]

11 hours ago, Strontium said:

 

 

14 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

"Some experts have suggested that France’s infection numbers are pushed up by the fact that people who return a positive result using a self-administered test have been encouraged to take a confirmatory PCR test, meaning that there could potentially be two results recorded for the same person."

 

"

However, others believe that the current infection rates have less to do with testing systems than with public behaviour. 

Professor Gilles Pialoux, who heads up the infectious diseases department of Paris’ Hôpital Tenon, told Le Monde that there is now a “reduced adherence to barrier gestures, reflected in all lines of enquiry. Masks, hand-washing, social distancing, working from home: since the last four months of 2021 we have seen a relaxation of these behaviours.

Prof Pialoux also cited “the mind-blowing rate of circulation among children, which increased by 56% in the second week of the year, just after they went back to school.

“This is considerable. Their parents are the next to be affected through familial contact, and then comes everyone else.”

France’s Conseil scientifique government advisory body has also suggested that the sharp rise in Covid cases observed throughout this month is in part linked to the return to school after the Christmas holidays.

“If it is proven that the epidemic resurgence observed is indeed linked to a very active circulation of the virus in primary schools, nurseries and creches, it would be useful to allocate additional measures to reinforce the Covid testing and prevention rules in educational settings as soon as possible,” it said.

Finally, Prof Pialoux added that: “The incapacity to hear anything other than the reassuring idea that Omicron is not that bad, that this ‘bad cold’ will provide herd immunity, that we have avoided the worst” has perhaps led people to relax their infection control efforts. "

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[AngryOfTuebrook 24,588]

5 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Cunts

 

 

 

 

 

Did we ever get to the bottom of the terrifying rising tide of authoritarianism in Aotearoa? Is it just vaccines and cigs, or is there more?

[Stouffer 2,784]

5 hours ago, Captain Willard said:

Both the twins she Mrs Willard have tested positive today. Mrs Willard now lying on the sofa sick as a dog despite being double jabbed and boosted. The downside is she is insisting on the front room being heated like a sauna. I could genuinely bake bread in here tonight. I’m the real victim in this. 

Hope everyone is better soon hombre.

[Kevin D 9,593]

Only just saw that close to 800 people have died in the last 2 days.

[Spy Bee 3,535]

 

[Bjornebye 33,848]

54 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

Only just saw that close to 800 people have died in the last 2 days.

Yeah but it's freedom from masks day 

[Spy Bee 3,535]

1 hour ago, Kevin D said:

Only just saw that close to 800 people have died in the last 2 days.

They haven't. That's just how many were reported. 

 

Just to restate the glaringly obvious, when millions of people test positive over a 28 day period, a certain percentage of deaths amongst that group of people are inevitable. Wait for ONS data to see how many deaths Covid is causing. 

 

It's also worth - for the sake of comparison - bearing in mind that at this time of year in a bad flu season, 250 people per day could be dying.

[Bjornebye 33,848]

12 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

They haven't. That's just how many were reported. 

 

Just to restate the glaringly obvious, when millions of people test positive over a 28 day period, a certain percentage of deaths amongst that group of people are inevitable. Wait for ONS data to see how many deaths Covid is causing. 

 

It's also worth - for the sake of comparison - bearing in mind that at this time of year in a bad flu season, 250 people per day could be dying.

Didn’t we “conveniently” run out of tests a few weeks ago? I suspect the figure is higher than reported 

[Pureblood 7,454]

https://thebfd.co.nz/2021/12/16/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

 

Over the years I have met, had lunch, dinner, drinks or meetings with a vast number of politicians. Some were great, most were average, but none, with one exception, were evil.

 

 

Which brings me to the exception. Jacinda Ardern.

 

When I had that three hour lunch with her I came away thinking that this woman makes a lot of sound and thinks she sounds informed and interested about the world and politics. But on reflection, at the time, I said to David Farrar, who was also there, that she was just mouthing slogans and platitudes. Bumper sticker slogans and rehearsed lines. There was no depth there, and there still isn’t.

 

She is my exception, the one I believe is actually evil, and here is why I believe that.

 

She is fake, more fake than a $10 copy watch bought in the back alleys of Hong Kong. She has claimed many, many things, like all politicians, about why she entered politics. She professes wanting to end child poverty; she even made herself the minister in charge of ending child poverty. She also claimed that climate change was her generation’s nuclear free moment. On both of those claimed driving forces for her entering politics she has failed massively and comprehensively. All the child poverty statistics are either materially worse or have barely budged. Her climate change commitments are joke. She wrecked an industry on a Captain’s Call and then presided over the largest imports of coal we have ever seen, into a country that is sitting on huge coal reserves. Every single signature election promise has been an abject failure. She told people she was going to make houses more affordable; their cost has more than doubled. She promised to build 100,000 Kiwibuild homes, but it turned out that she couldn’t build a house in a room full of Lego. She promised light rail to the airport and has failed to lay even a single centimetre of track. None of those things are evil, but they are all dishonest and show a predilection towards failure after bold promises.

 

She told us that she never lies, which was a lie. But since taking power she has grabbed unprecedented additional powers, moreso than even Robert Muldoon. With that power she locked us up, removed our freedoms and told us all it was for our health. Never before in the history of the world have so many healthy people been locked up and had their freedoms taken away, all on the pretext of protecting our health.

 

It was all to flatten the curve, she said, then to protect the hospitals, then to save granny, then it would be short and sharp, and it ended up being the longest lockdown ever. It was all lies. If we needed more capacity in the hospitals then why haven’t they provided it? Why did they spend $55 million on bribing and corrupting the media instead of building a purpose-built ICU-only hospital in Auckland? Why did they fund cameras on fishing boats and wallaby pest eradication instead of hiring more nurses?

 

It was never about health; otherwise the billions spent subsidising businesses to stay closed could have instead been spent on hospitals and health care. It was all about control and manipulation. She has gaslit everyone while smiling and frowning and stealing away your rights, your freedoms, and your democracy.

 

Her lockdowns have cost people their lives, postponed life-saving operations and cancer treatment, destroyed businesses, wrecked careers and worst of all scared people into being irrationally afraid, especially the children. Even though that is evil, that isn’t the real evil of this woman.

 

The real evil was her politicisation of the Police force, coupled with her draconian lockdown rules, the creation of a Stasi-like snitch culture, creating a situation where mates are turned against mates, families are splintered and rent apart by the medical apartheid she has implemented; and her scapegoating, demonising and radicalising the unvaccinated and destroying social cohesion with her divisive, nasty, evil policies.

 

 

 

She said she never lies; she told us last year that Kiwis would not be penalised if they chose not to vaccinate, yet that is exactly what she has done: introduced social ostracism and punishments for daring to have free will. That is evil.

 

She is manipulative in the most extreme manner, like all sociopaths. Why else would she use sustained propaganda and well-known brainwashing techniques to tell us that ‘They are Us’…except for the unvaccinated, then ‘They are Us’ is discarded. ‘Team of Five Million’ was a lie, because she has now separated New Zealand into ‘Us and Them’. What else can you call it other than manipulative to forbid the use of hairdressers unless you can prove you’d been vaccinated? That particular piece of nastiness was aimed solely at those naughty women who refuse to comply.

 

Removing freedoms from everyone, and then giving back the vaccinated some of those freedoms while callously using the media to help gaslight everyone into believing government permissions are freedoms, at the same time as creating two classes of citizen, is even nastier and evil. She’s convinced over 70% of people that this divisiveness and nastiness is perfectly alright. She’s said it is OK to discriminate. She’s not even passed any laws to push her mandates; she’s just let businesses become her brownshirts in ostracising and demonising the unvaccinated. She’s allowed Aucklanders to be scapegoated even as she wrecked their businesses, jobs, and dreams. It is never OK to discriminate. Yet that is what this evil woman has done.

The Kiwi ethos of egalitarianism was slaughtered on the altar of Covid, and the knife used to cut its throat was wielded by Jacinda Ardern.

Add to that the racial divisions she has fostered and extended through her government, and we as a nation are now on the cusp of the destruction of everything Kiwis once stood for. The Kiwi dream has become a dark and awful nightmare, where we live and exist only with the permission of the government.

We are more divided than ever before. We are meaner, harsher and nastier than before. Her actions did that. The evil is that she pretended it was kindness.

As I’ve elaborated, like never before, I’ve seen them all, from Muldoon to Ardern. Not even the excesses of Helen Clark or Robert Muldoon were this bad. The Ardern regime is exactly that, a regime. She is evil. She has systematically and deliberately destroyed this nation, and for that, she deserves to be run out of town on a rail.

 

Jacinda Ardern has done something no other politician has achieved in my estimation. She has made me despise her personally, simply because she is actually evil. I disliked Muldoon and Clark, but I actually despise Jacinda Ardern.

 

Her platitudes, her much-vaunted compassion, and her so-called sincerity are all fake. She is a very, very shallow, manipulative and insecure person drunk on the power voters handed her. She is desperate to be seen as a hero in the world’s eyes when in reality she has become a shabby, desperate despot, worse than Robert Muldoon and Helen Clark.

 

Jacinda Ardern is a black-hearted woman, not the caring persona she has cultivated.

 

She deserves nothing but opprobrium, and I will spend every waking moment working to remove her from office. It’s personal now.

[Spy Bee 3,535]

I see good news is still bad news in here!