Coronavirus

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Our work Xmas thing is on Zoom. 

You’ve got zoom in prison! Outrageous, too soft! 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Spy Bee said:

Sounds like hell!

You're not wrong ! 

1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

You’ve got zoom in prison! Outrageous, too soft! 

That's what my cell-mate keeps saying! 

[Spy Bee]

So the Delta variant is still killing 100+ people per day. The Onicrom is killing nobody. Having restrictions is delaying the Omnicrom variant in becoming dominant, so is it kind of having the adverse effect?

[Barrington Womble]

8 hours ago, Spy Bee said:

People aren't furious with restrictions per se, they are furious about the deceitful way this sad excuse of a Prime Minister goes about his business. He said three weeks before a review, and then conveniently tries to use it as a distraction from his own malfeasance. 

 

This is not based on the latest scientific evidence, it is based on his whimsical, fly by the wind bullshit decisions.

I can't believe people can't see through today's announcement for what it is, a distraction from the Christmas story crisis. 

 

Just this weekend his government had said a review would take place on 18th December. At the same time they were saying we should go to work Xmas parties. Yet we are expected to believe from the Sunday political TV rounds till early this morning this covid story has moved so quickly as to bring any plan b decision forward by 10 days after just 3 have passed? It's fucking nonsense. They're changing the rules (regardless of the rights or wrongs of the new restrictions) purely to serve his own purposes and distract from the fact he held a Xmas party and his government held several when we were all in lockdown last year. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Boss said:

So, we've moved into the covid passport territory now. Exactly what those attacking people for comparing this situation to Nazi Germany said wouldn't happen. 

I think the real concern is that Covid passports are absolutely not in any conceivable way comparable to Nazi Germany.

[Colonel Bumcunt]

37 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I can't believe people can't see through today's announcement for what it is, a distraction from the Christmas story crisis. 

 

Just this weekend his government had said a review would take place on 18th December. At the same time they were saying we should go to work Xmas parties. Yet we are expected to believe from the Sunday political TV rounds till early this morning this covid story has moved so quickly as to bring any plan b decision forward by 10 days after just 3 have passed? It's fucking nonsense. They're changing the rules (regardless of the rights or wrongs of the new restrictions) purely to serve his own purposes and distract from the fact he held a Xmas party and his government held several when we were all in lockdown last year. 

Say what you like, but to believe that means believing Chris Witty et al are also on the take. 

If that turns out to be true, then buy a gun to protect your home. 

[Strontium]

43 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

So the Delta variant is still killing 100+ people per day. The Onicrom is killing nobody. Having restrictions is delaying the Omnicrom variant in becoming dominant, so is it kind of having the adverse effect?

 

Well, this is the situation as it stands:

 

 

[M_B]

15 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well, this is the situation as it stands:

As it stands is right.

 

If you believe it isn't a diversion tactic, then Plan B is pre-emptive because they believe hospitals will be overwhelmed.  Seems sensible to take action on the predicted outcomes doesn't it?

 

It's interesting though - this will go before Parliament, and Johnson might well lose the vote. That would put him under massive pressure to resign. If I were a betting man then my money would be on a new PM before Xmas.

 

Please god, don't let it be Gove.

[TheHowieLama]

The situation in Germany might be freaking them out.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, TheHowieLama said:

The situation in Germany might be freaking them out.

Someone should have sent them the memo about this all being over by last winter…… 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

19 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well, this is the situation as it stands:

 

 

Wouldn't it make more sense to introduce measures to stop the NHS coming under unsustainable pressure before the NHS comes under unsustainable pressure?

[Jairzinho]

1 hour ago, Spy Bee said:

So the Delta variant is still killing 100+ people per day. The Onicrom is killing nobody. Having restrictions is delaying the Omnicrom variant in becoming dominant, so is it kind of having the adverse effect?

Won't we have to wait a while for the Omnicrom data? 

 

It's existence hasn't even been known about for the five or six weeks we would need from the evolution of start of cases - hospitalisations - deaths. 

 

Or is that incorrect? 

[Clem H Fandango]

I'm fine with following the rules suggested, but I do wonder when this will end?

No doubt with omicron allowed to spread there will be more variants just around the corner. 

The only thing that annoys me is the late response. It's been in the country now for 2 weeks, did we not learn anything from the first and second wave?

A much swifter action would, I believe, restore some public faith in our govt.

[Rushies tash]

2 minutes ago, Clem H Fandango said:

I'm fine with following the rules suggested, but I do wonder when this will end?

No doubt with omicron allowed to spread there will be more variants just around the corner. 

The only thing that annoys me is the late response. It's been in the country now for 2 weeks, did we not learn anything from the first and second wave?

A much swifter action would, I believe, restore some public faith in our govt.

You are presuming a competent government who give a shit.

[Clem H Fandango]

Just now, Rushies tash said:

You are presuming a competent government who give a shit.

I expect nothing less than total buffoonery from the unelected pm.

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Clem H Fandango said:

did we not learn anything from the first and second wave?

 

[Boss]

2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

 

Quick recap:

 

You today, as an unvaccinated person have made a decision of you own free will, fully knowing any consequences of that decision. At any time you could, if you like, change that decision or you could wait it out.

 

You, as a Jew in mid 30's Germany, did not make a decision. There was no free will and you had no idea of the consequences. At no time could you become not Jew and you couldn't wait it out.

 

Can you see a little "gray" area there?

 

The Jews had choices. They could've left the country between 1933-1939 under the Haavara agreement which allowed them to emigrate to Palestine to flee persecution. If you had £1000 you could emigrate to Palestine under an immigrant investor program. 60,000 German Jews were resettled under this program. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Has anyone actually used their NHS Covid pass for anything? I've just been trying to look at mine, but the app is being a bit of a nobhead (possibly because Milli of people are checking it for the first time all at once).

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Boss said:

 

The Jews had choices. They could've left the country between 1933-1939 under the Haavara agreement which allowed them to emigrate to Palestine to flee persecution. If you had £1000 you could emigrate to Palestine under an immigrant investor program. 60,000 German Jews were resettled under this program. 

Come on ….. fucking hell 

[Boss]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Come on ….. fucking hell 

 

It's factually true. 

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Boss said:

 

It's factually true. 

It’s terrifying that you are making any sort of comparison. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Boss said:

 

The Jews had choices. They could've left the country between 1933-1939 under the Haavara agreement which allowed them to emigrate to Palestine to flee persecution. If you had £1000 you could emigrate to Palestine under an immigrant investor program. 60,000 German Jews were resettled under this program. 

Fucking hell. Those lucky, lucky Jews! I bet they were gazing to the future and thinking "I really feel for those poor sods who won't be able to go and see The Matrix Resurrections at the Odeon".

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, Boss said:

It's factually true. 

 

And devoid of context.

[Boss]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

It’s terrifying that you are making any sort of comparison. 

 

The comparison is apt. At no point in history has the erosion of peoples rights ever led to a positive outcome. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 minutes ago, Boss said:

The comparison is apt. 

The comparison falls down on the part where nobody, as a result of Covid, is being given a choice between persecution or exile.