Coronavirus

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

You had a point? Can't say I've spotted one in more than 1,500 pages.

More lies. You can't help yourself. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

More lies. You can't help yourself. 

 

I mean, it's at the point now where you're negging me for literally posting facts, eg about George Floyd testing positive for covid.

 

I know you're butthurt that this was all over by the end of winter like I said it would be, but surely you should just be glad it's over and done and you can get on with your life, hopefully without all the hysterical bullshit we've had to endure over the last year and a half?

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

You had a point? Can't say I've spotted one in more than 1,500 pages.

I didn't know you were good at maths as well as Latin. Seeing as your maths is so good, what wave are we on now?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I mean, it's at the point now where you're negging me for literally posting facts, eg about George Floyd testing positive for covid.

 

I know you're butthurt that this was all over by the end of winter like I said it would be, but surely you should just be glad it's over and done and you can get on with your life, hopefully without all the hysterical bullshit we've had to endure over the last year and a half?

So you're saying that his death was included in the numbers of deaths in the US as a result of Covid? Can you definitely prove this as a fact?

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I mean, it's at the point now where you're negging me for literally posting facts, eg about George Floyd testing positive for covid.

 

I know you're butthurt that this was all over by the end of winter like I said it would be, but surely you should just be glad it's over and done and you can get on with your life, hopefully without all the hysterical bullshit we've had to endure over the last year and a half?

Wow. Just fucking wow. You absolute piece of shit. 

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Wow. Just fucking wow. You absolute piece of shit. 

 

I love you too x

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I love you too x

Vile 

[TheHowieLama]

Floyd's death certificate was shown during the trial - there is no mention of Covid so unfortunately nothing has been proven - which means minus internet points for all involved in this latest round of Whataboutery.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, TheHowieLama said:

Floyd's death certificate was shown during the trial - there is no mention of Covid so unfortunately nothing has been proven - which means minus internet points for all involved in this latest round of Whataboutery.

I think the fact we have all missed that covid was over by last winter like grass said it would be is far more pressing here. 

[Strontium]

8 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

So you're saying that his death was included in the numbers of deaths in the US as a result of Covid? Can you definitely prove this as a fact?

 

No, I said he had covid when he died, therefore he would have been recorded as a covid death in this country. Not all countries record covid deaths in the same way and I've no idea if the US records deaths in the same way as we do.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I mean, it's at the point now where you're negging me for literally posting facts, eg about George Floyd testing positive for covid.

 

I know you're butthurt that this was all over by the end of winter like I said it would be, but surely you should just be glad it's over and done and you can get on with your life, hopefully without all the hysterical bullshit we've had to endure over the last year and a half?

Do you ever read what you post and ask yourself why you're such a bad sweat? 

[TheHowieLama]

6 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

No, I said he had covid when he died,

And Chauvin spent minutes rassling with him, then was inside his personal space as he gasped for air for @ 9 minutes with no mask.

 

NO MASK!

 

Think about it.

[lifetime fan]

48 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

No, I said he had covid when he died, therefore he would have been recorded as a covid death in this country. Not all countries record covid deaths in the same way and I've no idea if the US records deaths in the same way as we do.

That is a blatant lie - that is not what you said. 
 

That’s what you’re going to try and imply was your point.

 

Two very different things. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, lifetime fan said:

That is a blatant lie - that is not what you said.

 

50 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

No, I said he had covid when he died, therefore he would have been recorded as a covid death in this country. 

 

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

As a matter of fact, when he died he was positive for covid, therefore he would officially count as a covid death in this country.

 

Can you point out how that is not what I said?

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

 

 

Can you point out how that is not what I said?

Any evidence to back up the statement that he would have been recorded as a covid death in this country? Or are you just yet again making things up? 

[Strontium]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Any evidence to back up the statement that he would have been recorded as a covid death in this country? Or are you just yet again making things up? 

 

Covid deaths in the UK are deaths which occur within 28 days of a positive covid test. I'm sure you already know that.

 

EDIT: that's one measure for it, there are also separate stats for where covid is mentioned on a death certificate

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Covid deaths in the UK are deaths which occur within 28 days of a positive covid test. I'm sure you already know that.

So a man who was filmed having his neck knelt on, died from cardiopulmonary arrest and the death was recorded as homicide would have been recorded as a covid death? Is that really what you are saying? I mean the bullshit about covid being over by winter.... It's just typical usual lies from you but really? Fucking hell. 

[lifetime fan]

15 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

 

 

Can you point out how that is not what I said?

When I read your post I didn’t see ‘recorded in this country’, if you honestly tell me that wasn’t edited then I apologise for calling you a liar. 
 

You’re still miles off the fucking chart with this but it’s only right I take back the liar comment. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

So a man who was filmed having his neck knelt on, died from cardiopulmonary arrest and the death was recorded as homicide would have been recorded as a covid death? Is that really what you are saying? I mean the bullshit about covid being over by winter.... It's just typical usual lies from you but really? Fucking hell. 

 

We went through all this months ago when we were talking about hypothetical people testing positive then getting hit by a bus. I don't know why you're pretending this is some fresh revelation.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

We went through all this months ago when we were talking about hypothetical people testing positive then getting hit by a bus. I don't know why you're pretending this is some fresh revelation.

I’m just amazed someone is capable of chatting so much bullshit then tries to pass themselves off as smarter than everyone else. You eat crayons. 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, lifetime fan said:

When I read your post I didn’t see ‘recorded in this country’, if you honestly tell me that wasn’t edited then I apologise for calling you a liar. 
 

You’re still miles off the fucking chart with this but it’s only right I take back the liar comment. 

 

I did edit it right after I posted it, although Stig quoted it just before the edit. Nevertheless your post was more than an hour after mine, and I think there's only a 15(?) minute window for editing.

 

I appreciate the clarification.

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I did edit it right after I posted it, although Stig quoted it just before the edit. Nevertheless your post was more than an hour after mine, and I think there's only a 15(?) minute window for editing.

 

I appreciate the clarification.

He was right about the liar bit. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

13 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

So a man who was filmed having his neck knelt on, died from cardiopulmonary arrest and the death was recorded as homicide would have been recorded as a covid death? Is that really what you are saying? I mean the bullshit about covid being over by winter.... It's just typical usual lies from you but really? Fucking hell. 

Even if a George Floyd style death did count as a Covid death if a positive test has occurred, what's the significance of such a pointless issue anyway? How many of these cases are we getting? Or the favourite invocation of Covidiots, who go on about people being fatally hit by buses counting as Covid deaths. How many cases like this crop up? Hardly any. And most definitely not enough to significantly skew the figures. 

 

The ONS figures (I think) provide a breakdown of deaths were covid was a significant contributing factor. And I believe that they show that around 80% to 90% of Covid deaths are instances of people dying of Covid or a condition brought about by Covid, rather than dying "with" Covid. Figures which are largely backed up by the excess death numbers. 

 

The George Floyd/hit by a bus nonsense is just another attempt of downplaying the seriousness of Covid by people who've pretty much been wrong about almost everything when it comes to the virus. 

[Mudface]

19 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Covid deaths in the UK are deaths which occur within 28 days of a positive covid test. I'm sure you already know that.

 

EDIT: that's one measure for it, there are also separate stats for where covid is mentioned on a death certificate

Fuck knows why we're going back to this bullshit, I suspect you're just trying to draw attention away from being ridiculously wrong all the time.

 

Anyway, here's two measures from the ONS- the first is where Covid was mentioned on the death certificate, the second is deaths due to Covid. There's not a massive difference, but regardless, the majority of deaths in either category occurred after late October 2020, and will only have increased further since (the figures at https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathswherecovid19wasmentionedonthedeathcertificate only go up to about the middle of Feb this year when the FOU request was made).

 

But seriously, all this bollocks from you for month after month because you said people would be 'embarrassed' by the reaction to this in an ill-judged, pompous post about 15 months ago? And you've spent all this time since making increasingly stupid and wrong pronouncements and judgements to try and support your original bullshit? You've got some serious issues.

 

Year	Week no.	Deaths involving COVID-19	Deaths due to COVID-19
2020	Week 11	5	5
2020	Week 12	103	95
2020	Week 13	539	519
2020	Week 14	3475	3332
2020	Week 15	6213	5983
2020	Week 16	8758	8435
2020	Week 17	8237	7867
2020	Week 18	6035	5689
2020	Week 19	3930	3664
2020	Week 20	3810	3511
2020	Week 21	2589	2341
2020	Week 22	1822	1628
2020	Week 23	1588	1392
2020	Week 24	1114	948
2020	Week 25	783	629
2020	Week 26	606	498
2020	Week 27	532	408
2020	Week 28	366	291
2020	Week 29	295	228
2020	Week 30	217	161
2020	Week 31	193	148
2020	Week 32	152	115
2020	Week 33	139	104
2020	Week 34	138	98
2020	Week 35	101	76
2020	Week 36	78	69
2020	Week 37	99	78
2020	Week 38	139	118
2020	Week 39	215	178
2020	Week 40	321	279
2020	Week 41	438	385
2020	Week 42	670	590
2020	Week 43	978	874
2020	Week 44	1379	1196
2020	Week 45	1937	1743
2020	Week 46	2466	2170
2020	Week 47	2697	2361
2020	Week 48	3040	2637
2020	Week 49	2835	2469
2020	Week 50	2756	2337
2020	Week 51	2986	2557
2020	Week 52	2912	2497
2020	Week 53	3144	2741
2021	Week 1	6057	5367
2021	Week 2	7245	6510
2021	Week 3	8422	7592
2021	Week 4	8433	7610
2021	Week 5	7320	6521
2021	Week 6	5691	5035
2021	Week 7	4079	3495
Total		128077	115574

[TheHowieLama]

It is worth pointing out that the second wave was indeed over by the end of winter.