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19 minutes ago, SasaS said:

The level of panic over new type of flu is getting insane. Imagine if something really dangerous happened in the world? Entire societies would collapse within minutes. Those survivalist types may not be so crazy after all.

Sound like you know something we don't. What is it? When's it coming? Do I need to restock my emergency apocalypse fridge and freezer? 

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Just now, johnsusername said:

Sound like you know something we don't. What is it? When's it coming? Do I need to restock my emergency apocalypse fridge and freezer? 

Forget fridges. You need to star looking at a nice little cabin in the woods and how you plan to defend it.

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There was one thing though, there was a news item on the WSJ a couple of months ago about one of the biggest hedge funds shorting the entire market, betting on the crash in February. I made a mental note of it with a view I might sell some of the retirement portfolio which was flying a bit too high over the past year or so, but come late January hesitated, with everything going fine and thinking that hedge fund was about to take a big hit like the guys shorting Tesla. Lo and behold, last week, pandem(onium)ic begins.

 

Now I'm not saying anything, but some guys never seem to lose...  

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12 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

I was wondering about that last night (having just finished "The Big Short"): who has shorted (parts of) the market, and what have they used as the vehicle?

 

In that book it was insurance against parts of the bond market.

 

But I don't know what you'd buy to short the entire market.

 


I think that you don't short the entire market, when you expect the entire market to go down, you short a portfolio of shares that are expected to be most representative, that is, least resistant to the overall direction.  So, you don't bet against a particular stock, you bet against the market.

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16 minutes ago, Funkasy said:

Israelis with a vacine ready in a few days. 

If it works, then its five months away (although admittedly I may be reading it wrong - I see it as 8 weeks to get the vaccine and then a further 90 days of trials)

 

"There is a high urgency around the world to develop a vaccine for the coronavirus in humans, so we are working to expedite the development process and achieve an effective vaccine for the COVID-19 virus over the next 8-10 weeks and move to safety trials [in humans] within 90 days," said Migal CEO David Zigdon in a press conference.

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/BJOct11BEI

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7 minutes ago, M_B said:

If it works, then its five months away (although admittedly I may be reading it wrong - I see it as 8 weeks to get the vaccine and then a further 90 days of trials)

 

"There is a high urgency around the world to develop a vaccine for the coronavirus in humans, so we are working to expedite the development process and achieve an effective vaccine for the COVID-19 virus over the next 8-10 weeks and move to safety trials [in humans] within 90 days," said Migal CEO David Zigdon in a press conference.

 

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/BJOct11BEI

Just in time for it to mutate...

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11 hours ago, polymerpunkah said:

I was wondering about that last night (having just finished "The Big Short"): who has shorted (parts of) the market, and what have they used as the vehicle?

 

In that book it was insurance against parts of the bond market.

 

But I don't know what you'd buy to short the entire market.

 

There are a whole lot of financial products you could do in order to accomplish that.

 

Simply shorting an index fund or bond would probably be the easiest.

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