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3 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Need to be with the right people at the right time in the right place. Out in the woods and a quiet beach are much better than a city centre full of drunkards. 

 

Having said that I have a Scottish mate who thinks nothing of doing a load of acid then going down the pub by himself. 

You get a few blokes like that. I knew a bloke that would take any pill he saw/was given, not just the 'fun' drugs but anything from unprescribed (Well for him) blood pressure medications to anti-depressants, he'd even pick random tablets up off the floor in the street if he ever came across any and take them. Unsurprisingly he died in his 40's.

 

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2 minutes ago, Elite said:

You get a few blokes like that. I knew a bloke that would take any pill he saw/was given, not just the 'fun' drugs but anything from unprescribed (Well for him) blood pressure medications to anti-depressants, he'd even pick random tablets up off the floor in the street if he ever came across any and take them. Unsurprisingly he died in his 40's.

 

I guess there were other things going on beneath that at least contributed to that behaviour. Maybe he knew that, more likely he never got the chance to understand what was going on for him. RIP that bloke. 

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13 minutes ago, Elite said:

You get a few blokes like that. I knew a bloke that would take any pill he saw/was given, not just the 'fun' drugs but anything from unprescribed (Well for him) blood pressure medications to anti-depressants, he'd even pick random tablets up off the floor in the street if he ever came across any and take them. Unsurprisingly he died in his 40's.

 

Mate of mine, sound fella but was a complete nutter for that in his 20's. Was living in Germany for a year with my brother and mates and some acid was doing the rounds on a night out and he took his and then a few minutes got his hands on 4 more tabs and downed them in one go, despite the lads best efforts to stop him.  Spent 2 days after that sat on the loo in the dark with a towel over his face. 

 

Another time he called up to my gaff and necked 4 bottles of red wine down in about an hour and a half, then started picking a fight with me when I wouldn't give him his car keys. Me and my mate had to physically carry him to the bedroom and throw him into bed where he passed out.

 

One more time we were at a festival and we all had done some pills, he stuck to weed and then we lost him. We found him at the end of the night in an alley with some homeless lads face down in his own vomit. 

 

A couple of years later and he'd gone completely off the rails and was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. We were all too young and unaware at the time to see that it was probably lurking there in the background the whole time, poor lad. 

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1 hour ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

More importantly, when are we going to begin a serious chat about this lab-made viral chimaera? 

 

Just look at the mutations, the aggressive and rapid mutations occuring.  This doesn't stop until someone admits this isn't natural, and resets the discussion on how to deal with that.  

 

This won't happen unless the Tories start to plummet in the polls.

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On 18/03/2021 at 18:12, SasaS said:

It will be interesting to see reactions in Europe now. Norway apparently saying it will not be vaccinating, Slovenia's President and PM will take one AZ jab for the team each tomorrow. Or at least, that's what the label will say.

From a country that eats rotting fish that's a bit rich.

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5 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Schools are safe, they said. Numbers won't go up just because schools are open, they said.

 

Like you say, hopefully the work being done with vaccines will see only the positive cases increase and not hospitalisations and deaths.

To be fair, this time.i think that acknowledged they would push up infections. It's why there's stuff opening on Monday. They said the virus would suppress hospitalisations despite increases when schools opened. And then once schools closed for Easter, they'd let us do other things, which is why the rule of 6 is back on Monday. The real big next step on the 12th when the kids are back and pubs are open outdoors seems a massive risk in that context - especially as the jabs will now need to concentrate on the 2nd jabs and less and less 1st jabs will be done. 

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7 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

More importantly, when are we going to begin a serious chat about this lab-made viral chimaera? 

 

Just look at the mutations, the aggressive and rapid mutations occuring.  This doesn't stop until someone admits this isn't natural, and resets the discussion on how to deal with that.  

 

Looks like somebody wants to get the ball rolling;

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-26/former-cdc-chief-says-he-thinks-coronavirus-came-from-wuhan-lab?utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business

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10 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The Dingle massive ain't too keen on the vaccine. 

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Is that a mirror or have they put the signs up facing into their own property?

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Johnson is such a prick - 

 

 “The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office,” he said.

 

Personally I've probably put in more work and hours working from home (plus throw in looking after the kids or taking/picking up kids from school and different hours than normal). Typical Tory old boy view though - the plebs are lazy and workshy and taking the piss, when it's usually the other way around.

 

It's a shame the virus didn't do more damage to him. 

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1 hour ago, johnsusername said:

Johnson is such a prick - 

 

 “The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office,” he said.

 

Personally I've probably put in more work and hours working from home (plus throw in looking after the kids or taking/picking up kids from school and different hours than normal). Typical Tory old boy view though - the plebs are lazy and workshy and taking the piss, when it's usually the other way around.

 

It's a shame the virus didn't do more damage to him. 

There's the tone, and then there's the reality of 5000 cases a day still. It's a shit idea.

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Zoe changed their way to track numbers locally as case numbers went down to smooth out those big variations that could be seen when the virus was suppressed - they're using some form of 14 day rolling average now. Despite this, the numbers have gone up by a third in the last week. I've not seen the same numbers in the Liverpool city council daily report, but then that is normally about a week behind Zoe. It seems too much of a coincidence to think it's not linked to the school returns. 

 

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2 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Zoe changed their way to track numbers locally as case numbers went down to smooth out those big variations that could be seen when the virus was suppressed - they're using some form of 14 day rolling average now. Despite this, the numbers have gone up by a third in the last week. I've not seen the same numbers in the Liverpool city council daily report, but then that is normally about a week behind Zoe. It seems too much of a coincidence to think it's not linked to the school returns. 

 

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I think it's ok, and much the same happened in Israel and then the reduction kicked back in.  

 

That it to say, I think we all expected a rise in cases and it's now been almost 21 days since the schools fully opened, and it's fair to say that the reduction in cases has stalled somewhat as a result of that, we seemed to see significant drops in cases each week since early Jan, but now we're stuck on around 5,000. 

 

Schools are testing like mad, and all cases are being caught.  I take some comfort in that being a key reason for the national stall. 

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20 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:


And only a 56% percent success rate when not.

 

Pointless in this scenario and seen as a panacea for the politically motivated school/pub/theatre/work place reopenings when it’s anything but.

 

56% of the time, it works every time.

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29 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I think it's ok, and much the same happened in Israel and then the reduction kicked back in.  

 

That it to say, I think we all expected a rise in cases and it's now been almost 21 days since the schools fully opened, and it's fair to say that the reduction in cases has stalled somewhat as a result of that, we seemed to see significant drops in cases each week since early Jan, but now we're stuck on around 5,000. 

 

Schools are testing like mad, and all cases are being caught.  I take some comfort in that being a key reason for the national stall. 

I think my worry is this app has usually picked up a trend before the official stats by around a week, so you're seeing flat, but perhaps by this time next week it's a 30% rise. If that's the case, we know what can happen from there. 1st doses of the vaccine are going to stall at this point, so while the hospitals may cope very well if that does happen because of who has been vaccined, who knows what mutations could happen. 

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11 hours ago, johnsusername said:

Johnson is such a prick - 

 

 “The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office,” he said.

 

Personally I've probably put in more work and hours working from home (plus throw in looking after the kids or taking/picking up kids from school and different hours than normal). Typical Tory old boy view though - the plebs are lazy and workshy and taking the piss, when it's usually the other way around.

 

It's a shame the virus didn't do more damage to him. 

And so it starts.
Our bloody infallible prime minister "The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office,”
My blood is literally boiling. In governments opinion, and therefore the new media rhetoric in waiting, us feckless plebs who have worked from home as mandated are workshy and most likely taking the piss.
Personally speaking I have never worked more hours, been more stressed or been less capable of switching off than when working from home.
Boris Johnson you are a despicable stain on humanity and perpetual misery would be too good for you.

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9 minutes ago, SilverSong said:

And so it starts.
Our bloody infallible prime minister "The general view is people have had quite a few days off, and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for people to see their way round to making a passing stab at getting back into the office,”
My blood is literally boiling. In governments opinion, and therefore the new media rhetoric in waiting, us feckless plebs who have worked from home as mandated are workshy and most likely taking the piss.
Personally speaking I have never worked more hours, been more stressed or been less capable of switching off than when working from home.
Boris Johnson you are a despicable stain on humanity and perpetual misery would be too good for you.

I think there are plenty of people who are on furlough in office type jobs (I know a fair number) and they are litterally off. Obviously the same is true for many people in all of the industries that have been shutdown. I don't want to be defending Johnson, but there's more to the state of the nation then office workers who are WFH. Clearly the next big step in all this is getting people off furlough, back to work and seeing what the fuck happens in the economy. I was speaking to someone on Friday who's had nearly half his workforce on furlough since this all started (he's in an office based industry). He said he can basically afford to keep people going till the end of the summer once they're off furlough and if there's not a big up tick in business, they'll all be laid off.  This is the time bomb awaiting the country. 

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12 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I think there are plenty of people who are on furlough in office type jobs (I know a fair number) and they are litterally off. Obviously the same is true for many people in all of the industries that have been shutdown. I don't want to be defending Johnson, but there's more to the state of the nation then office workers who are WFH. Clearly the next big step in all this is getting people off furlough, back to work and seeing what the fuck happens in the economy. I was speaking to someone on Friday who's had nearly half his workforce on furlough since this all started (he's in an office based industry). He said he can basically afford to keep people going till the end of the summer once they're off furlough and if there's not a big up tick in business, they'll all be laid off.  This is the time bomb awaiting the country. 

That's all perfectly reasonable, but why send schools back before getting business back up and running if it's so important? 

 

That's not a question for you BTW, it's a question for the chase the bright light like a pussy cat policy makers. 

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17 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I think there are plenty of people who are on furlough in office type jobs (I know a fair number) and they are litterally off. Obviously the same is true for many people in all of the industries that have been shutdown. I don't want to be defending Johnson, but there's more to the state of the nation then office workers who are WFH. Clearly the next big step in all this is getting people off furlough, back to work and seeing what the fuck happens in the economy. I was speaking to someone on Friday who's had nearly half his workforce on furlough since this all started (he's in an office based industry). He said he can basically afford to keep people going till the end of the summer once they're off furlough and if there's not a big up tick in business, they'll all be laid off.  This is the time bomb awaiting the country. 

Not disagreeing with anything you’ve said but Johnson is clearly referring to people wfh as having days off imo and not people on furlough or he wouldn’t have said get back to the office as most furloughed people can’t return to work yet. 
 

I’d be surprised if even 10% of people on furlough work in offices as they are allowed to stay open (as long as they are Covid safe) and lots of office based jobs are being done at home. 
 

The vast majority of people on furlough will be people who work in the sectors forced to shut like non essential retail, hospitality and hairdressers/beauty salons and the like. 
 

You don’t have to be a genius to work out he’s implying people working from home have been skiving and having ‘days off’, especially in conjunction with Sunak saying the other day that employees might quit their jobs if they have to work from home and not in the office. It’s just what they did all last summer starting again. 

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20 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

Not disagreeing with anything you’ve said but Johnson is clearly referring to people wfh as having days off imo and not people on furlough or he wouldn’t have said get back to the office as most furloughed people can’t return to work yet. 
 

I’d be surprised if even 10% of people on furlough work in offices as they are allowed to stay open (as long as they are Covid safe) and lots of office based jobs are being done at home. 
 

The vast majority of people on furlough will be people who work in the sectors forced to shut like non essential retail, hospitality and hairdressers/beauty salons and the like. 
 

You don’t have to be a genius to work out he’s implying people working from home have been skiving and having ‘days off’, especially in conjunction with Sunak saying the other day that employees might quit their jobs if they have to work from home and not in the office. It’s just what they did all last summer starting again. 


This is who we’re dealing with...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained

 

These cunts calling ‘us’ scum, beggars belief.

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6 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:


This is who we’re dealing with...

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia_Unchained

 

Scum calling ‘us’ scum, beggars belief.

They just want people to exploit so they can live the high life, theyre cunts, they've an ideology of cunts and absolute proof there's no such thing as karma in this life because if there was they would be be scrimping at the bottom with no safety net, no hope having to listen to people of privilege telling them its because they're idle.

 

Any working class person or person from a working class background that votes for fuckers like those five should be ashamed. They aim to exploit not elevate its astounding they get away with saying its anything else. The same pricks used the mantra "make work pay" but not by making working pay but by making not working for exploitative wages with less rights the only option between that and homelessness or starvation. Their vision is a dickensian nightmare. 

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1 hour ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

That's all perfectly reasonable, but why send schools back before getting business back up and running if it's so important? 

 

That's not a question for you BTW, it's a question for the chase the bright light like a pussy cat policy makers. 

Personally I think the kids going back to school was more important than the return to work. Aside from the educational aspect, my kids were becoming shadows of their former selves. It's been great to see them come back over the last few weeks. 

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

Not disagreeing with anything you’ve said but Johnson is clearly referring to people wfh as having days off imo and not people on furlough or he wouldn’t have said get back to the office as most furloughed people can’t return to work yet. 
 

I’d be surprised if even 10% of people on furlough work in offices as they are allowed to stay open (as long as they are Covid safe) and lots of office based jobs are being done at home. 
 

The vast majority of people on furlough will be people who work in the sectors forced to shut like non essential retail, hospitality and hairdressers/beauty salons and the like. 
 

You don’t have to be a genius to work out he’s implying people working from home have been skiving and having ‘days off’, especially in conjunction with Sunak saying the other day that employees might quit their jobs if they have to work from home and not in the office. It’s just what they did all last summer starting again. 

I'm just going off the quotes I saw on here - which to me isn't clear if it is WFH or furlough. 

 

I agree most office jobs have been unaffected. But I know plenty of businesses with office based jobs that have been affected to. For instance the company I was talking about in my previous post is a media agency - people aren't advertising like they were, so revenues are down, well they are with certain customers. They've lost 2 big clients who've gone bust during the pandemic. I also know of an IT Systems integrator who furloughed loads of people and has ended up using it as a "do we really need them exercise". He's told most of them if they find other jobs to take them as they're unlikely to have a job once furlough is over. I would imagine there must be people working in the travel industry in the furlough boat. And all kinds of things that isn't crossing my mind. 

 

Yeah, I saw that Sunak thing, utter nonsense. There might be plenty of people who want to go back (in fact I know of loads) and they might go and find other jobs as a result. But equally there'll be loads of people looking for more home based jobs when people start to return to the office and don't like it. 

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