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4 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Maybe the people talking to Trump were talking about that; if so, he wasn't listening. 

He just started running his mouth with no particular concern about what noises came out. In this instance, the noises that came out were about detergent being introduced into the human body. 

Nah, he'd had a letter from a loony church grifter lady who was selling bleach as a covid cure.  So then went and promoted it.

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5 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

I'm sure I posted on here a while ago that my Gf's Auntie and some of her staff had it way earlier than anticipated because the hospital they work at had no way of storing it. 

 

There was always likely to be some people that 'jump the queue' for one reason or the other but as long as people aren't denying people that genuinely need it then then its a good thing.   

Apparently the Chesterfield football team, or a large number of them got vaccinated early because vaccines would have been binned at the end of that particular day had they not been used. If there are a load of appointments showing on the site, and groups of people, even though entitled to, are reticent in getting the jab, then are you really jumping any queue?

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9 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

I don't expect we will be done before that. By late march we need to start going back and vaccinating everyone we did since December with 2nd jabs, so the 2nd half of the population probably don't start getting their 1st jabs till the summer. I realise we're doing pretty well compared with most nations and especially Europe - but we've a big population, so the race is hardly won yet. I think also the EU have access to the Johnson and Johnson jab don't you, which only requires a single shot? 

 

We're lagging behind well over half of Europe in terms of people fully vacccinated, per capita, but we are ahead with first jabs.

 

Not quite the world beating claims as we had a head start of a month, but they are catching up, and more importantly have full 'protection' in more of their populations.

 

We'll see soonish who has adopted the correct, least worst, plan.

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Screenshot-2021-02-16-at-07-12-55.png

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita

 

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https://www.politico.eu/article/coronavirus-vaccination-europe-by-the-numbers/

 

Who has made the best progress, relatively speaking?

 

The UK has administered the most vaccines overall, but it also leads in terms of vaccinations per capita of population.

Malta, Serbia and Denmark are also strong on this measure.

Explore the map below to see how other countries in Europe are doing.

 

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https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/15/covid-19-vaccinations-in-europe-which-countries-are-leading-the-way

 

Level playing field?

The caveat with comparative European data like this is that not every country began vaccinations at the same time.

Here is a look at who got a headstart on the rest.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Israel have had lockdown and schools/nurseries have been off 

My point was it has fallen steeply since the vaccine was introduced (with a slight delay).

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6 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

My point was it has fallen steeply since the vaccine was introduced (with a slight delay).

Yep agreed, and mine is that lockdown is playing a massive part just as it is in the UK. 

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5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Yep agreed, and mine is that lockdown is playing a massive part just as it is in the UK. 

You may not have noticed stig, but spy bee doesn't believe lockdowns suppress the virus. He's mentioned it once or twice. The virus just naturally dies out. This time aided by the vaccine sniper. 

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1 minute ago, Barrington Womble said:

You may not have noticed stig, but spy bee doesn't believe lockdowns suppress the virus. He's mentioned it once or twice. The virus just naturally dies out. This time aided by the vaccine sniper. 

Haha, I know he doesn't mate. I'm just trying to make him realise. 

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32 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

My point was it has fallen steeply since the vaccine was introduced (with a slight delay).

Have you got a link to the Israeli hospitalisation figures? I can only find cases, which have reduced but not steeply.

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6 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Have you got a link to the Israeli hospitalisation figures? I can only find cases, which have reduced but not steeply.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-vaccine-idUKKBN2AE0Q2

 

I'm not sure how good this link is as I'm in a rush, but I saw something similar yesterday which was legit

 

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1 minute ago, Spy Bee said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-israel-vaccine-idUKKBN2AE0Q2

 

I'm not sure how good this link is as I'm in a rush, but I saw something similar yesterday which was legit

 

Neither of those are hospitalisation figures, I'm looking for something similar to the UK healthcare figures on the daily dashboard. I'd imagine they are dropping, but you keep making claims without anything to back them up.

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Without any stats to back this up to hand I can guarantee that lockdown restrictions have made the biggest impact in any drop in cases in Israel or any other country that has imposed lockdown restrictions since Christmas. 

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16 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Neither of those are hospitalisation figures, I'm looking for something similar to the UK healthcare figures on the daily dashboard. I'd imagine they are dropping, but you keep making claims without anything to back them

 

 

up.

 

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4 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I assume you've negged me there because I'm right SpyBee? Or is it because I'm a cunt? Or both. 

I negged you because you posted something retarded with no evidence to back it up. If I post something without forensic detail I get shit, so it's only fair.

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2 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

I negged you because you posted something retarded with no evidence to back it up. If I post something without forensic detail I get shit, so it's only fair.

"retarded" wow. 

 

What forensic detail do you need? They went into lockdown, cases dropped as a result. Whats difficult there other than your warped view of how lockdowns work? 

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12 hours ago, Sugar Ape said:

You can tell Whitty wants to fucking strangle him. 
 

 

Imagine the reaction if Dianne Abbott did this.

This fuckwit gets such an easy ride.

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7 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

"retarded" wow. 

 

What forensic detail do you need? They went into lockdown, cases dropped as a result. Whats difficult there other than your warped view of how lockdowns work? 

You said it was definitely the main reason for a drop in hospitalisations.

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16 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

 

 

13 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

 

But the first Tweet refers to cases- which don't appear to have had that much of a drop according to the Worldometer figures, at least not more than you'd expect from a lockdown- and the second one is about 'severe or critical' hospitalisation age profiles. Neither of them show what you're asserting- that vaccination has dramatically reduced hospitalisations. Again, vaccination probably has had an effect, but it's too early to be certain and you're not helping yourself by making these claims without solid figures.

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8 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

You said it was definitely the main reason for a drop in hospitalisations.

I said drop in cases. Spikes have coincided with eased lockdown restrictions since this all began, they have also dropped after lockdown restrictions have been imposed. What is so difficult for you? 

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