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On 29/01/2021 at 15:44, Sugar Ape said:

This comes down to the government though and they should have extended the furlough scheme to a lot more people which would have enabled more people to be off work and have time to home school their kids to the best of their ability, and also cut down on the amount of kids currently in school. They can afford to award billions in contracts to their mates and on schemes like operation Moonshot so they can afford an expanded furlough for the next 2-3 months while they vaccinate the most vulnerable and key workers. 
 

I think everyone would agree schools need to be opened asap but it seems madness to do it now while we’re rolling out the vaccine and it’s going well. Personally I’d rather they fucked off this 8th March target when Easter isn’t long afterwards and have after the half term as a potential return date. It’d give us about two and a half months to really ramp things up. 
 

I’m in a similar situation with my daughter. She’s vulnerable and at increased risk of Covid and attends a special needs school so she can go in but I’ve taken the decision to keep her at home and try my best to school her and work at the same time. I’d rather she missed a few months of school than put her at risk. Plus she’s only four so I don’t think it’ll impact her as much as older kids with exams and so on.
 

I know loads of people lying about being key workers though to get their kids into school. One person I know is furloughed but has lied and said he’s in work so his kids go to school and he sits at home watching the telly all day. 

My sister left teaching in October, at their school,they asked for proof they were key workers, the list halved!

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On 29/01/2021 at 15:44, Sugar Ape said:

This comes down to the government though and they should have extended the furlough scheme to a lot more people which would have enabled more people to be off work and have time to home school their kids to the best of their ability, and also cut down on the amount of kids currently in school. They can afford to award billions in contracts to their mates and on schemes like operation Moonshot so they can afford an expanded furlough for the next 2-3 months while they vaccinate the most vulnerable and key workers. 
 

I think everyone would agree schools need to be opened asap but it seems madness to do it now while we’re rolling out the vaccine and it’s going well. Personally I’d rather they fucked off this 8th March target when Easter isn’t long afterwards and have after the half term as a potential return date. It’d give us about two and a half months to really ramp things up. 
 

I’m in a similar situation with my daughter. She’s vulnerable and at increased risk of Covid and attends a special needs school so she can go in but I’ve taken the decision to keep her at home and try my best to school her and work at the same time. I’d rather she missed a few months of school than put her at risk. Plus she’s only four so I don’t think it’ll impact her as much as older kids with exams and so on.
 

I know loads of people lying about being key workers though to get their kids into school. One person I know is furloughed but has lied and said he’s in work so his kids go to school and he sits at home watching the telly all day. 

My sister left teaching in October, at their school,they asked for proof they were key workers, the list halved!

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12 minutes ago, suzy said:

My sister left teaching in October, at their school,they asked for proof they were key workers, the list halved!

The school where my missus works do the same thing. There's still over 100 kids instead of over 300. 

So roughly a third of pupils, but a full compliment of staff.

One class had 8 kids in with a teacher and 2 teaching assistants.

Madness.

 

Pity they can't always have that ratio, the kids would really get the education they deserve.

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1 hour ago, Bellflower said:

All the usual suspects, Rich Tea, Digestives, Malted Milk.

Found some Custard Creams though......

Bastard 

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Here's a weird one. My old boss (who's a great bloke) has had his jab. He's 45 with croehns disease. Apparently that classes him as extremely vulnerable. He's also had covid 3 months ago.

My mrs is 52 with copd and my mums 69 with two mechanical heart valves and a pacemaker. Neither have heard anything.

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5 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

Here's a weird one. My old boss (who's a great bloke) has had his jab. He's 45 with croehns disease. Apparently that classes him as extremely vulnerable. He's also had covid 3 months ago.

My mrs is 52 with copd and my mums 69 with two mechanical heart valves and a pacemaker. Neither have heard anything.

Could it be because Crohn's is an autoimmune disorder? I don't know like I'm just guessing!

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Totally off topic but his first episode with it was the day before his holiday ended about ten year ago in Turkey. He felt shite but managed get airport then collapsed at the airport and ended up in hospital. I was his assistant manager and couldn't wait for him get back. He rang me from hospital "I'm in the hospital you'll have to hold the fort" my response was "you're one selfish cunt"

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Clinically extremely vulnerable are the fourth group to be vaccinated. 
 

Clinically vulnerable are the sixth group to be vaccinated. First picture is the list of the fourth group, second picture is the list of the sixth group. 
 

 

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13 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

Clinically extremely vulnerable are the fourth group to be vaccinated. 
 

Clinically vulnerable are the sixth group to be vaccinated. First picture is the list of the fourth group, second picture is the list of the sixth group. 
 

 

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If someone should be offered the vaccine but isn't being offered it, it doesn't look like there's any way of highlighting it to put it right. Kind of makes the priority list a bit pointless. 

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Its a bit of a moral dilemma, should the UK give vaccines to the EU at the expense of vaccinating the 60's downwards in the UK?

 

I think we should but send it to Africa instead.

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3 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Deaths, hospitalisations and cases all down on this time last week though. Here's hoping.

True but it's mad that since we hit 100000 deaths are hardly mentioned on the news. That supposed quote from Stalin rings true

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33 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

True but it's mad that since we hit 100000 deaths are hardly mentioned on the news. That supposed quote from Stalin rings true


They literally held a post-mortem on all the news channels, some even went as far as having somber music playing over it while annihilating Alex and the spivs for their failings.
 

Every news outlet did this.

 

Do people just not watch, or are they so entrenched that they refuse to see.

 

Maybe the day after the narrative changed, but on the day even Laura K, his masters voice, stuck a boot in on prime time TV. 

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34 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

True but it's mad that since we hit 100000 deaths are hardly mentioned on the news. That supposed quote from Stalin rings true

Exactly. They cut that shit from the news after a day or two and focused on 'Brave Boris getting the Vaccine !!!!!'

 

It does feel like we are on a downward slope of this now. Peaked a few weeks ago, vaccine, lockdown and hopefully more people wisened up to the reality is helping. Still, we can't help the stupid pricks who still think its a load of crap but by and large it feels a bit better. 

 

1200 deaths posted today though. Fucking hell, in years to come this is our WW1/WW2 to look back on. 

 

Fuck you covid 

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1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:


They literally held a post-mortem on all the news channels, some even went as far as having somber music playing over it while annihilating Alex and the spivs for their failings.
 

Every news outlet did this.

 

Do people just not watch, or are they so entrenched that they refuse to see.

 

Maybe the day after the narrative changed, but on the day even Laura K, his masters voice, stuck a boot in on prime time TV. 

They didn't go in hard enough. Maybe nows not the time. They fucking better had when it's as over as it can be though. 

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1 hour ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

If someone should be offered the vaccine but isn't being offered it, it doesn't look like there's any way of highlighting it to put it right. Kind of makes the priority list a bit pointless. 

If you think you aren’t on the list and you should be then just phone your GP. I had to do that for someone last week and they’re now on the list in the sixth group. 

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I don't think it's that people don't care about deaths, it's just people have to learn to adapt and become numb to it, if you didn't you'd go nuts. There'll be a time when people reflect and hopefully get angry about it, but it's the eye of the storm and people are just trying to get through it. My granddad told me he'd often wake up in the morning during the blitz and a house and family in the street would be gone, kids would still go out and play though and their parents would go to work, didn't make them heartless cunts, just survivors trying to hold it together.

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2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

They didn't go in hard enough. Maybe nows not the time. They fucking better had when it's as over as it can be though. 


Oh, yeah, I agree wholeheartedly, but I think that’s about a collective ‘don’t fucking scare them too much’ strategy that’s been agreed.

 

If you get the chance watch some American or European TV news and watch the kicking we’re getting. I think this, and other political parties, response has been based around not freaking  us out, rightly or wrongly.

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49 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I don't think it's that people don't care about deaths, it's just people have to learn to adapt and become numb to it, if you didn't you'd go nuts. There'll be a time when people reflect and hopefully get angry about it, but it's the eye of the storm and people are just trying to get through it. My granddad told me he'd often wake up in the morning during the blitz and a house and family in the street would be gone, kids would still go out and play though and their parents would go to work, didn't make them heartless cunts, just survivors trying to hold it together.

 

Yeah i agree with this. What do we expect people to do? It's affecting everyone. Hardly callous everyone isnt pouring their hearts out on the internet.

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1 hour ago, A Red said:

Its a bit of a moral dilemma, should the UK give vaccines to the EU at the expense of vaccinating the 60's downwards in the UK?

 

I think we should but send it to Africa instead.

I'm assuming before we get to the under 60s, we'll be needing to go back and give all the other groups their 2nd vaccine. By the time we've done that, we'll probably have more vaccines than people who need it. But we'll probably be heading towards the autumn and need to get the population vaccinated before the schools return and winter kicks in. I think it'll be 2022 befor me we begin to think about helping anyone with vaccines.

 

We're current vaccinating about 2.5m per week aren't we? And unless we start giving people the Johnson and Johnson vaccine, that means we've 120m vaccines to do and that is if we don't need to tweak the vaccines for any mutations. 

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