Coronavirus

[Curly]

2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Oh thanks.  I’m desperately trying to remember who told me so I can pretend I wasn’t duped! 

Haha - the only reason I was able to nonchalantly drop that swaggered response and link in there was because I’d been corrected on it previously!

 

It’s your turn now mate. Enjoy.

[Evelyn Tentions]

Rees-Mogg did a Cummings and crossed tiers to attend the only Latin Mass Catholic service he could find.

Astounding that  that the Haunted Pencil has the gall to call himself a Christian but not surprising he only goes for 19th century Christianity.

[Bjornebye]

17 minutes ago, Evelyn Tentions said:

Rees-Mogg did a Cummings and crossed tiers to attend the only Latin Mass Catholic service he could find.

Astounding that  that the Haunted Pencil has the gall to call himself a Christian but not surprising he only goes for 19th century Christianity.

Frankie Boyle will be with quill and ink as we speak 

[Davelfc]

The latest raft of coronavirus restrictions could last until the end of March and will be eased slowly rather than in a "big bang", Boris Johnson has said.

 

In a statement to the Commons on Wednesday, the Prime Minister said there was "no choice" but to issue the stay-at-home order and close schools given the spread of Covid and particularly a more infectious new variant.

 

Promising a "gradual unwrapping" of restrictions in line with the cautious outlook of Professor Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer, at a press conference on Tuesday, Mr Johnson asked MPs to vote in favour of legislation that could allow national restrictions to continue until March 31.

 

The Government does not intend the full package of measures to be used until then, but a decision will have to be taken on any lifting of restrictions according to the progress of the vaccination programme, he said. England's lockdown has already come into force, and MPs will vote later to retrospectively approve it.

 

"That is why the legislation this House will vote on later today runs until March 31 – not because we expect the full national lockdown to continue until then but to allow a steady, controlled and evidence-led move down through the tiers on a regional basis."

 

 

The Prime Minister told MPs there would be "continuous review" of the measures, with a statutory requirement to look at them every fortnight and a legal obligation to remove them if they are no longer necessary.

 

Schools will be the "very first to open", while other restrictions may be in place for much longer.

"We are in a tough final stretch, made only tougher by the new variant," Mr Johnson said. "After the marathon of last year we are indeed now in a sprint, a race to vaccinate the vulnerable faster than the virus can reach them. Every needle in every arm makes a difference."

 

[Brownie]

2 hours ago, Section_31 said:

See soft arse Williamson has said kids without a laptop are considered vulnerable and should go into school now, so any parent that can't be arsed looking after their kid is just gonna say they haven't got a computer. With nurseries still open too, this isn't really a lockdown - it's just that Burtons and the pubs are closed. Load of bollocks. 

 

Even in a cabinet as talentless as this, Williamson just absolutely beggars belief. If he was working at Manweb or something selling video tapes with his name on his shirt you'd still think he was a fucking dickhead. 

What do you think should happen for those kids without access to hardware or data?

[Section_31]

Just now, Brownie said:

What do you think should happen for those kids without access to hardware or data?

They should be provided laptops by the government. I see some more Tory-connected companies have had their snouts in the trough with it already, but not delivered the goods - obviously.

[johnsusername]

5 minutes ago, Brownie said:

What do you think should happen for those kids without access to hardware or data?

The wife's school sorts out a laptop for the kid.

 

Gavin Williamson has said any parents not happy with the standard of online learning should report the school to Ofsted. Grass. Maybe Ofsted should help schools out instead of trying to catch schools out for the time being. 

[Davelfc]

Health Service Journal reporter Lawrence Dunhill today reported that hospitals in Cheshire are under particular strain and in need of help from colleagues in Liverpool.

He tweeted: "Signs of severe covid pressures hitting the North The three hospitals in Cheshire are now really struggling with covid occupancy.

"Understand some critical care patients have had to be transferred into larger sites in Liverpool & Greater Manchester."

 

He suggested the hospitals in Crewe, Macclesfield and Chester could be particularly bad because Cheshire as a whole was hit relatively lightly by the first and second waves of the virus - unlike Liverpool.

He added: "High transmission rates in rest of North West through last summer/autumn have hopefully built up more immunity."

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/pressure-hits-north-covid-patients-19573852

[Brownie]

4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

They should be provided laptops by the government. I see some more Tory-connected companies have had their snouts in the trough with it already, but not delivered the goods - obviously.

So they have no choice but to go in.

 

Not a fan of sweeping statements about parents not being arsed about looking after their kids tbh. I’m sure it happens, just like benefit fraud does, for instance, but i’d like to think that people generally look after their kids and want what’s best for them.

 

Sorry if that sounds a bit touchy but it just made me feel a bit uncomfortable to be honest mate.

[Bruce Spanner]

9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

They should be provided laptops by the government. I see some more Tory-connected companies have had their snouts in the trough with it already, but not delivered the goods - obviously.

Nowhere near hitting any target.

 

They slashed the promised amount by 80%, quietly, whilst attention was elsewhere.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/education/2020/oct/24/englands-schools-to-receive-fewer-laptops-for-distance-learning

 

Schools ended up giving their hardware away to the kids, without any real hope of it coming back, which presents all kinds of problems for when schools are back properly.

[Section_31]

12 minutes ago, Brownie said:

So they have no choice but to go in.

 

Not a fan of sweeping statements about parents not being arsed about looking after their kids tbh. I’m sure it happens, just like benefit fraud does, for instance, but i’d like to think that people generally look after their kids and want what’s best for them.

 

Sorry if that sounds a bit touchy but it just made me feel a bit uncomfortable to be honest mate.

 

I didn't say that though, I said: "any parent that can't be arsed looking after their kid is just gonna say they haven't got a computer.", not 'all parents who say they haven't got a computer are bullshitting and they just don't want to look after their kids".

 

Teachers have long been viewed in this country often as glorified childminders, it's an attitude that's actively encouraged by the press and government.

 

On the very rare occasion they go on strike much of the commentary is around the fact people are having to take time off work as a result.

 

The bottom line is that teachers are in harm's way, in some ways more so than health staff because they have zero protection and aren't in line for any early vaccines. Half my Mrs's colleagues have already had it, one is still off with some kind of spooky balloon feet.

[johnsusername]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Nowhere near hitting any target.

 

They slashed the promised amount by 80%, quietly, whilst attention was elsewhere.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/education/2020/oct/24/englands-schools-to-receive-fewer-laptops-for-distance-learning

 

Schools ended up giving their hardware away to the kids, without any real hope of it coming back, which presents all kinds of problems for when schools are back properly.

Exactly. The government have had months to organise laptop provision in the event of an inevitable lockdown or help schools with kids of key workers - but they were too busy telling schools to prepare (over Christmas) for Covid tests, battling with the unions to keep schools open up to Christmas, and reopening schools after Christmas. For a day. Before u-turning telling them to close with several hours notice - but to make sure the education is excellent standard. Meanwhile the virus was spreading like wildfire through schools - and infecting people like me.

 

Williamson has got to be one of the worst ministers in an era of history's worst ministers. 

 

Anyway, rant over! 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

10 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Exactly. The government have had months to organise laptop provision in the event of an inevitable lockdown or help schools with kids of key workers - but they were too busy telling schools to prepare (over Christmas) for Covid tests, battling with the unions to keep schools open up to Christmas, and reopening schools after Christmas. For a day. Before u-turning telling them to close with several hours notice - but to make sure the education is excellent standard. Meanwhile the virus was spreading like wildfire through schools - and infecting people like me.

 

Williamson has got to be one of the worst ministers in an era of history's worst ministers. 

 

Anyway, rant over! 

 

It’s not ranting at this point it’s exasperation and justified anger, they set a low bar, but they are exceeding even the worst projections of how bad a puppet cabinet filled only with people who wouldn’t challenge dear leaders ego and obsequious toadies.

I genuinely despise them and I feel no shame in saying that, cunts and spivs to a man.

 

[Section_31]

This vaccine should be a wartime production effort, no fucking around. There must be labs around that don't belong to Astrazenica that could be appropriated, military medics who could be drafted in. Can't believe how half arsed it all is. 

 

"Fuck, bombs falling - gonna need some Spitfires"

"Yeah no worries, how's the end of March? I could get you around 15". 

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

This vaccine should be a wartime production effort, no fucking around. There must be labs around that don't belong to Astrazenica that could be appropriated, military medics who could be drafted in. Can't believe how half arsed it all is. 

 

"Fuck, bombs falling - gonna need some Spitfires"

"Yeah no worries, how's the end of March? I could get you around 15". 

I don’t think it’s that easy.  We aren’t talking about making machines here.  There was a scientist on the radio earlier this week explaining how hard it is, how the equipment is specialist and every batch has to be tested to make sure it’s perfect.  A car factory could make plane parts but it can’t be repurposed to make a vaccine. 
 

 

[Chocoholic]

Magnificent bit of satire.

 

It is satire... isn't it?

 

Please tell me it's satire. it's so hard to know any more.

[Jairzinho]

18 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

25 people died in our local hospital today in Epsom. That’s really shocked me tonight. Epsom is not a big place. Fucking grim times. 

High time they took your driving licence away. 

[cloggypop]

54 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

High time they took your driving licence away. 

And replaced his manhole cover. 

[Brownie]

3 hours ago, Section_31 said:

 

I didn't say that though, I said: "any parent that can't be arsed looking after their kid is just gonna say they haven't got a computer.", not 'all parents who say they haven't got a computer are bullshitting and they just don't want to look after their kids".

 

Teachers have long been viewed in this country often as glorified childminders, it's an attitude that's actively encouraged by the press and government.

 

On the very rare occasion they go on strike much of the commentary is around the fact people are having to take time off work as a result.

 

The bottom line is that teachers are in harm's way, in some ways more so than health staff because they have zero protection and aren't in line for any early vaccines. Half my Mrs's colleagues have already had it, one is still off with some kind of spooky balloon feet.

Agree with you about teachers, think you could have made that point without the comment you mentioned but no problem.

[sir roger]

Have only been skim reading this thread recently so not seeing all of the excellent posts but the wife was asking today if any agencies are still looking at the question of antibodies and whether people who have had covid are retaining immunity and for how long. Not heard any mention since vaccines came on the scene , but surely it is still important at this point.

[an tha]

2 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

It’s not ranting at this point it’s exasperation and justified anger, they set a low bar, but they are exceeding even the worst projections of how bad a puppet cabinet filled only with people who wouldn’t challenge dear leaders ego and obsequious toadies.

I genuinely despise them and I feel no shame in saying that, cunts and spivs to a man.

 

They don't care that loads of kids haven't got food in their bellies and that child poverty is at a modern day high.

 

They certainly won't care about provision of laptops etc for home schooling.

 

The fucking horrible rat bastards.

 

 

[littletedwest]

Step daughter says she has to walk to my grandsons school to pick up the school meal. Not ideal.

[Bruce Spanner]

6 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

Step daughter says she has to walk to my grandsons school to pick up the school meal. Not ideal.

 

Obviously with this being made up on the spot no systems or support were thought about.

 

Most likely it'll go back to the voucher system that was in place during the first lock down, should be in place from next week.

[Curly]

18 minutes ago, littletedwest said:

Step daughter says she has to walk to my grandsons school to pick up the school meal. Not ideal.

I’m not sure what else they can do on this? They certainly can’t arrange them to be delivered to individual houses?

[halewood pete]