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5 minutes ago, Mudface said:

No, it was Tuesday- 136 last Monday, then 397 on Tue and 492 on Wed. 194 yesterday and 532 today, presumably we're looking at pushing 600 tomorrow.

And another thing... We're hitting numbers at 50% of the peak. Yet we're being told 50% less die once they get to ICU and less get to ICU because of improved treatments. Which would suggest infection rates are matching the peak, which clearly they're not. The Zoe app for example (which is probably a better guide than the government stats because of their lack of testing at the peak) says we currently have just under 600k nationally with the virus. In the peak it was 2.2m . Something just doesn't add up to me. 

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2 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

And another thing... We're hitting numbers at 50% of the peak. Yet we're being told 50% less die once they get to ICU and less get to ICU because of aimproved treatments. Which would suggest infection rates are matching the peak, which clearly they're not. The Zoe app for example (which is probably a better guide than the government stars because of their lack of testing at the peak) says we currently have just under 600k nationally with the virus. In the peak it was 2.2m . Something just doesn't add up to me. 

Well, at the peak we were averaging about 1000 deaths a day (the highest average over 7 days was 980), at the moment we're averaging about 360 over the last 7 days, so it's not that far off really.

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5 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Well, at the peak we were averaging about 1000 deaths a day (the highest average over 7 days was 980), at the moment we're averaging about 360 over the last 7 days, so it's not that far off really.

The peak was only over 1k a couple of times wasn't it? I just don't think the idea of a 2.2m infectious v 600k now would tally to these sorts of death counts as we're supposed to be better at treating this now. And when we were at the peak, weren't most of the deaths in care homes? 

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3 minutes ago, Mudface said:

Well, at the peak we were averaging about 1000 deaths a day (the highest average over 7 days was 980), at the moment we're averaging about 360 over the last 7 days, so it's not that far off really.

I think they can go over the top on projections and stuff because it’s just a guess, and they can cherry pick which ones they want to use, but I don’t think the death stats are dodgy. The ONS report will be out for this week soon enough which states the amount of deaths where Covid was the underlying cause. (To stop all this ‘with’ instead of ‘of’ Covid). 
 

It came out today for the week ending 30th October. 
 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

The peak was only over 1k a couple of times wasn't it? I just don't think the idea of a 2.2m infectious v 600k now would tally to these sorts of death counts as we're supposed to be better at treating this now. And when we were at the peak, weren't most of the deaths in care homes? 

According to the Guardian it was over 1000 deaths for 22 days...

 

"Ministers have been accused of playing down the gravity of the coronavirus pandemic after it emerged that more than 1,000 people died every day in the UK for 22 consecutive days..."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/19/over-1000-deaths-day-uk-ministers-accused-downplaying-covid-19-peak

 

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1 hour ago, johnsusername said:

According to the Guardian it was over 1000 deaths for 22 days...

 

"Ministers have been accused of playing down the gravity of the coronavirus pandemic after it emerged that more than 1,000 people died every day in the UK for 22 consecutive days..."

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/19/over-1000-deaths-day-uk-ministers-accused-downplaying-covid-19-peak

 

Didn't they reset those stats later again though? There was a point where deaths were at about 60k, then they dropped them back to 40k (I think that article refers to 52k deaths, which is more than the total now). Which is I guess my point. None of the numbers now make any sense. As @littletedwest posted before his local hospital is posting more deaths than at the peak. Either the number they were posting then is wrong or the number now is.  

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3 hours ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

I caught the end of a news piece earlier that said, one of the issues with rolling out the vaccine is that it has to be transported at temperatures of -80c.

 

It may have been -18c but I'm sure it was the former. 

It's -80c, which is the required storage temperature for RNA. -80c freezers are commonplace so this really shouldn't be a problem.

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Zoe figures for Liverpool continue to drop. Nationally while it trended down quite quickly for a couple of days from.43k new cases, it seems to be stuck around 36/7k new cases per day. 

 

Liverpool city council have stopped publishing their official figures while this mass testing is going on. Which I suppose makes sense. 

 

 

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The new group, mostly made up of Tory MPs who rebelled in the Commons vote last week to approve the current lockdown, is calling itself the COVID Recovery Group.

The MPs plan to challenge scientific advice provided by government medics and will campaign to defeat any attempt by Mr Johnson to extend the coronavirus lockdown when it ends on 2 December.

 

Launching the group, the MPs have published what they call Three Guiding Principles, in which they are calling on the government to:

  • Undertake and publish full cost-benefit analysis of restrictions on a regional basis
  • End the monopoly on advice of government scientists
  • Improve the measures we already have to tackle the virus, including significantly boosting the performance of NHS Test and Trace by shifting resources to local public health teams to lead contact tracing and break the chain of transmission, and expanding the NHS' surge capacity.
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12 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Didn't they reset those stats later again though? There was a point where deaths were at about 60k, then they dropped them back to 40k (I think that article refers to 52k deaths, which is more than the total now). Which is I guess my point. None of the numbers now make any sense. As @littletedwest posted before his local hospital is posting more deaths than at the peak. Either the number they were posting then is wrong or the number now is.  

Doesn’t that make sense though as the spread isn’t the same as last time? Some places in the north are worse than at the peak in the spring, places down south are better off?
 

10 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Zoe figures for Liverpool continue to drop. Nationally while it trended down quite quickly for a couple of days from.43k new cases, it seems to be stuck around 36/7k new cases per day. 

 

Liverpool city council have stopped publishing their official figures while this mass testing is going on. Which I suppose makes sense. 

 

 

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I still like Zoe for the general numbers across the country, but on a micro level it seems to be all over the place. I’m watching it in my area, West Lancs, and it was 1,800 one day, 1,300 the next and then over 2,000 the day after. 
 

 

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On 09/11/2020 at 16:17, Section_31 said:

In the future when this is over, if you never got Covid it'll be frowned upon, like if you weren't at Bastogne. You'll offer to give people lifts but they'll say they want to stretch their legs.

They wouldn't know they weren't there man. 

 

 

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Pupil in daughters class has tested positive. Just booked a test for daughter, myself and wife. It was very easy and had numerous times available, but obviously had to wait until daughter finished school. All 3 getting test at 3:30 today.

 

Being part of a big testing area helps, but it shows what is possible when resources are made available.

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14 hours ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

In transport ?

 

I used to work for a healthcare delivery company. There are a number of healthcare specialist vans available. Boots, Bupa and Healthcare at home offer this sort of delivery service for patients. A logistics company called Movianto do it as well.

 

Rolling it out across the whole country is a massive job though. I'm intrigued to see how they go about it.   

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5 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

 

I used to work for a healthcare delivery company. There are a number of healthcare specialist vans available. Boots, Bupa and Healthcare at home offer this sort of delivery service for patients. A logistics company called Movianto do it as well.

 

Rolling it out across the whole country is a massive job though. I'm intrigued to see how they go about it.   

How many of them have tory donor CEO's though? 

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