Coronavirus

[johnsusername]

5 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

Trouble is mate all those non persishable things you normally get for the food bank are stripped bare off the shelves. About the only thing left is fucking corn flakes. 

No fucking Ready Brek left in Tesco's yesterday. Animals, they are. 

[Grinch]

38 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Brothels are shut, no idea on windows but probably. 

 

My mate Dave is going to have to find a hobby that isn't the pub or the whorehouse. 

 

Strange days

 

I'm starting to realise Rammstein in June is out the window. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

2 minutes ago, A Red said:

I know what you mean but where it is possible people should try to do it. I'm sure there are plenty on here that have never donated to a food bank (not a criticism) but now is the time to try to do so.

 

I know people can be cunts, but once reality kicks in communities tend to look after each other. I'n guessing it's what a lot of Governments are hoping for. 

[Grinch]

1 hour ago, Butch said:

Ever had a blowjob with someone wearing a mask? Of course they are. 

 

I've fucking missed this with all that's going on. 

 

She owes me a steak. 

[Barrington Womble]

8 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

I can confirm all leave has been cancelled as my mate who is still in the forces had his cancelled, (not sure if it is a blanket ban or just specific corps, he's in the Royal Logistic Corp so it makes sense to have them helping out) 

I was told everyone. 

[Barrington Womble]

UK coronavirus crisis 'to last until spring 2021 and could see 7.9m hospitalised'

Exclusive: Public Health England document seen by Guardian says four in five of population ‘expected’ to contract virus

• Coronavirus – latest updates
• See all our coronavirus coverage

 

Denis Campbell and Sarah Boseley

Published:19:53 Sun 15 March 2020

 

The coronavirus epidemic in the UK will last until next spring and could lead to 7.9m people being hospitalised, a secret Public Health England briefing for senior NHS officials reveals.

The document, seen by the Guardian, is the first time health chiefs tackling the virus have admitted that they expect it to circulate for another 12 months and lead to huge extra strain on an already overstretched NHS.

It also suggests that health chiefs are braced for as many as 80% of Britons becoming infected with the coronavirus over that time.

Prof Chris Whitty, the government’s chief medical adviser, has previously described that figure as the worst-case scenario and suggested that the real number would turn out to be less than that. However, the briefing makes clear that four in five of the population “are expected” to contract the virus.

The document says that: “As many as 80% of the population are expected to be infected with Covid-19 in the next 12 months, and up to 15% (7.9m people) may require hospitalisation.”

Coronavirus: health experts fear epidemic will ‘let rip’ through UK

The briefing sets out the latest official thinking about how severely the infection could affect both the public’s health and that of personnel in critical services such as the NHS, police, the fire brigade and transport.

It has been drawn up in recent days by PHE’s emergency preparedness and response team and approved as accurate by Dr Susan Hopkins, PHE’s lead official dealing with the outbreak. It has been shared with hospital bosses and senior doctors in the NHS in Engand.

“For the public to hear that it could last for 12 months, people are going to be really upset about that and pretty worried about that”, said Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia.

“A year is entirely plausible. But that figure isn’t well appreciated or understood,” added Hunter, an expert in the epidemiology of infectious diseases.

“I think it will dip in the summer, towards the end of June, and come back in November, in the way that usual seasonal flu does. I think it will be around forever, but become less severe over time, as immunity builds up,” he added.

The admission that the virus will continue to cause problems for another year appears to undermine hopes that the arrival of warmer weather this summer would kill it.

The document also discloses that an estimated 500,000 of the 5m people deemed vital because they work “in essential services and critical infrastructure” will be off sick at any one time during a “months”-long peak of the epidemic. The 5m include 1m NHS staff and 1.5m in social care.

However, the briefing raises questions about how Britain would continue to function normally and by warning that: “It is estimated that at least 10% of people in the UK will have a cough at any one time during the months of peak Covid-19 activity.” Under revised health advice Boris Johnson unveiled last Thursday, anyone with a cough should self-isolate for at least seven days.

The document also states that:

• the health service cannot cope with the sheer number of people with symptoms who need to be tested because laboratories are “under significant demand pressures”

• from now on only the very seriously ill who are already in hospital and people in care homes and prisons where the Coronavirus has been detected will get tested

• testing services are under such strain that even NHS staff will not be swabbed, despite their key role and the risk of them passing the virus on to patients

A senior NHS figure involved in preparing for the growing “surge” in patients whose lives are being put at risk by Covid-19 said an 80% infection rate could lead to more than half a million people dying.

If the mortality rate turns out to be the 1% many experts are using as their working assumption then that would mean 531,100 deaths. But if Whitty’s insistence that the rate will be closer to 0.6% proves accurate, then that would involve 318,660 people dying.

Experts advising governments worldwide on the way epidemics grow and eventually decline say there will be a rapid rise in cases to a peak – and then a falling off. Whitty, who has seen the modelling done by UK and global scientists, says the case numbers will go up fast over the next 10 to 14 weeks.

That will mean a peak at around the end of May to mid-June, when the NHS will be under great pressure. The strategy of all countries is to delay that peak and stretch it out over a longer period of time, so that health services are better able to cope. There is also the possibility that new treatments will be available by then.

After the peak, case numbers and deaths are expected to drop for 10 weeks or more, until they reach a fairly low level, which may not be zero. In the summer months especially, the case numbers are expected to reduce because people spend more time out of doors and are less likely to be confined at close quarters in small rooms in a house or office with people who are infected.

There is still a worry that the virus could resurge in the autumn or winter months, which means planning for the long term will be necessary. Until a vaccine is developed, perhaps in 18 months, health planners cannot be sure of being able to protect people from the disease.

[3 Stacks]

43 minutes ago, Spy Bee said:

Italy isn't testing enough people to get accurate measures. Like we are now doing, they are only testing ill people. In South Korea where they have tested loads of people, the death rate is 0.8%.

That, plus there's data showing that the overwhelming majority of people who caught the virus in South Korea are between the ages of 19-29, because that's the age their population leans towards. In Italy, the majority of cases are 70's, 80's. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 minute ago, Barry Wom said:

I was told everyone. 

Probably is the case then. We'll see a lot of changes to life happening over the coming weeks. Hospitals in our City are banning visitors unless someone is in ITU or visiting a new born. The fuckers were filling jam jars with disinfectant from the dispensers, stealing the latex gloves and masks.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Pistonbroke said:

Probably is the case then. We'll see a lot of changes to life happening over the coming weeks. Hospitals in our City are banning visitors unless someone is in ITU or visiting a new born. The fuckers were filling jam jars with disinfectant from the dispensers, stealing the latex gloves and masks.

Cunts. 

[Duff Man]

9 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

UK coronavirus crisis 'to last until spring 2021 and could see 7.9m hospitalised'

Exclusive: Public Health England document seen by Guardian says four in five of population ‘expected’ to contract virus

• Coronavirus – latest updates
• See all our coronavirus coverage

 

Denis Campbell and Sarah Boseley

Published:19:53 Sun 15 March 2020

 

The coronavirus epidemic in the UK will last until next spring and could lead to 7.9m people being hospitalised, a secret Public Health England briefing for senior NHS officials reveals.

The document, seen by the Guardian, is the first time health chiefs tackling the virus have admitted that they expect it to circulate for another 12 months and lead to huge extra strain on an already overstretched NHS.

It also suggests that health chiefs are braced for as many as 80% of Britons becoming infected with the coronavirus over that time.

Prof Chris Whitty, the government’s chief medical adviser, has previously described that figure as the worst-case scenario and suggested that the real number would turn out to be less than that. However, the briefing makes clear that four in five of the population “are expected” to contract the virus.

The document says that: “As many as 80% of the population are expected to be infected with Covid-19 in the next 12 months, and up to 15% (7.9m people) may require hospitalisation.”

Coronavirus: health experts fear epidemic will ‘let rip’ through UK

The briefing sets out the latest official thinking about how severely the infection could affect both the public’s health and that of personnel in critical services such as the NHS, police, the fire brigade and transport.

It has been drawn up in recent days by PHE’s emergency preparedness and response team and approved as accurate by Dr Susan Hopkins, PHE’s lead official dealing with the outbreak. It has been shared with hospital bosses and senior doctors in the NHS in Engand.

“For the public to hear that it could last for 12 months, people are going to be really upset about that and pretty worried about that”, said Paul Hunter, a professor of medicine at the University of East Anglia.

“A year is entirely plausible. But that figure isn’t well appreciated or understood,” added Hunter, an expert in the epidemiology of infectious diseases.

“I think it will dip in the summer, towards the end of June, and come back in November, in the way that usual seasonal flu does. I think it will be around forever, but become less severe over time, as immunity builds up,” he added.

The admission that the virus will continue to cause problems for another year appears to undermine hopes that the arrival of warmer weather this summer would kill it.

The document also discloses that an estimated 500,000 of the 5m people deemed vital because they work “in essential services and critical infrastructure” will be off sick at any one time during a “months”-long peak of the epidemic. The 5m include 1m NHS staff and 1.5m in social care.

However, the briefing raises questions about how Britain would continue to function normally and by warning that: “It is estimated that at least 10% of people in the UK will have a cough at any one time during the months of peak Covid-19 activity.” Under revised health advice Boris Johnson unveiled last Thursday, anyone with a cough should self-isolate for at least seven days.

The document also states that:

• the health service cannot cope with the sheer number of people with symptoms who need to be tested because laboratories are “under significant demand pressures”

• from now on only the very seriously ill who are already in hospital and people in care homes and prisons where the Coronavirus has been detected will get tested

• testing services are under such strain that even NHS staff will not be swabbed, despite their key role and the risk of them passing the virus on to patients

A senior NHS figure involved in preparing for the growing “surge” in patients whose lives are being put at risk by Covid-19 said an 80% infection rate could lead to more than half a million people dying.

If the mortality rate turns out to be the 1% many experts are using as their working assumption then that would mean 531,100 deaths. But if Whitty’s insistence that the rate will be closer to 0.6% proves accurate, then that would involve 318,660 people dying.

Experts advising governments worldwide on the way epidemics grow and eventually decline say there will be a rapid rise in cases to a peak – and then a falling off. Whitty, who has seen the modelling done by UK and global scientists, says the case numbers will go up fast over the next 10 to 14 weeks.

That will mean a peak at around the end of May to mid-June, when the NHS will be under great pressure. The strategy of all countries is to delay that peak and stretch it out over a longer period of time, so that health services are better able to cope. There is also the possibility that new treatments will be available by then.

After the peak, case numbers and deaths are expected to drop for 10 weeks or more, until they reach a fairly low level, which may not be zero. In the summer months especially, the case numbers are expected to reduce because people spend more time out of doors and are less likely to be confined at close quarters in small rooms in a house or office with people who are infected.

There is still a worry that the virus could resurge in the autumn or winter months, which means planning for the long term will be necessary. Until a vaccine is developed, perhaps in 18 months, health planners cannot be sure of being able to protect people from the disease.

Just read that. It's bizarre people are still trying to play this down.

[Jairzinho]

38 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

German Government have already said that they will be phasing in a load more of measures that will drastically affect how people go about their everyday life. How long before most countries start using martial law to ensure people follow the curfews and new rules? Like it or not, its probably going to happen. 

It's not "Martial Law" as such but we already have police driving down the street reminding people to stay the fuck indoors here.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

It's truly frightening. We are all going to be affected somehow. 

[moof]

22 minutes ago, A Red said:

When you go shopping please try to get a few extra things, if you can afford it, for your local food bank. There are thousands of people that a reduction in hours or a job loss puts them immediately in poverty.

Nice sentiment but I hope you understand your voting habits are part of the reason people will be forced into that position. Maybe it’ll take a pandemic for people to realise voting for selfish reasons is dangerously stupid and nihilistic. 

[Harry Squatter]

[Scott_M]

https://twitter.com/thejeremyvine/status/1239267230631813123?s=21

[elvis]

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

It's not "Martial Law" as such but we already have police driving down the street reminding people to stay the fuck indoors here.

where do you live ?

 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

It's not "Martial Law" as such but we already have police driving down the street reminding people to stay the fuck indoors here.

 

People are daft mate. I have to go out with the dog but we rarely go near enough to people, i'm amazed at how many large groups of people are sitting together in the parks getting drunk or having a fucking picnic. I'm guessing that is why the Government are going to step in the enforce people to follow their guidelines. 

[Jairzinho]

2 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

People are daft mate. I have to go out with the dog but we rarely go near enough to people, i'm amazed at how many large groups of people are sitting together in the parks getting drunk or having a fucking picnic. I'm guessing that is why the Government are going to step in the enforce people to follow their guidelines. 

I haven't got a problem with a spot of authoritarian policy here. The population is too fucking stupid not to.

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, elvis said:

where do you live ?

 

Sarcasm?

[Captain Turdseye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Sarcasm?

I don’t think Elvis spends as much of his life on here as the rest of us sad bastards. 

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Sarcasm?

Why are people going to be embarrassed SD? 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd

[elvis]

7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Sarcasm?

no

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Why are people going to be embarrassed SD? 

 

When it transpires this isn't the apocalypse after all.

[elvis]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

When it transpires this isn't the apocalypse after all.

Jesus , you must be wired in a completely different way from me , because that is the least of my concerns