Coronavirus

[Guest Pistonbroke]

1 minute ago, SasaS said:

What do you people think, he will this play out? Not just the UK.

 

Hard to say, but I'm sure things are going to get a whole lot worse unless they can stumble upon a cure quicker than they anticipate. It's also going to have so many knock on effects, a lot of people are still not taking things seriously, that's not a good thing. 

[Bjornebye]

[moof]

Hopefully it’s the death rattle of neoliberal capitalism. 

[alles ist gut]

9 minutes ago, SasaS said:

What do you people think, how will this play out? Not just the UK.

Tens of millions will die globally

also Rylan will get a second series of Supermarket Sweep, so pretty grim.

[Rico1304]

The lack of cash flow will destroy businesses. Some massive firms are going to go under with knock on impacts on their staff, supply chain, creditors etc. People are going to die in huge numbers in a very short time period. There’ll be mass graves and people left to rot in their homes. It ain’t going to be fun.  

[Captain Turdseye]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

The lack of cash flow will destroy businesses. Some massive firms are going to go under with knock on impacts on their staff, supply chain, creditors etc. People are going to die in huge numbers in a very short time period. There’ll be mass graves and people left to rot in their homes. It ain’t going to be fun.  

Yeah, but apart from that we’ll be sound. 

[cloggypop]

24 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The last minute rush for adequate supplies of pot. 

This was here

 

 

[Strontium]

11 minutes ago, SasaS said:

What do you people think, he will this play out? Not just the UK.

 

I think we're going to end up with a lot of very embarrassed people.

[Davelfc]

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/815307800/how-are-wuhan-residents-coping-mentally-after-7-weeks-of-quarantine?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

 

How Are Wuhan Residents Coping Mentally After 7 Weeks Of Quarantine?

 

 

NOEL KING, HOST: 

Wuhan is the city in China where the coronavirus is thought to have originated. People who live there have been under lockdown for more than 50 days. Try to imagine what that's like. Here's NPR's Pien Huang.

 

PIEN HUANG, BYLINE: There's been a whole range of feelings that have erupted in Wuhan since the city locked down in late January. In the first week, the quarantine caught people by surprise. It was just before the Lunar New Year, and people were on holiday. Lin Yang had come home to Wuhan to visit her parents. And then came word of the coronavirus quarantine.

 

LIN YANG: Everyone was shocked. Well, how come - this thing's getting so worse?

 

HUANG: She says in the days before the lockdown, the media and the government seemed to say the virus was no big deal. Then authorities announced that nobody could leave the city, and public transportation was cancelled. That was all in the first week. And the second week, Yang says, people started freaking out.

 

YANG: There's so many people infected, and the number of death actually increased as well. So it's panic. But in the third week, we kind of tried to accept this as a reality. And we need to change our lifestyle to adapt to this new life.

 

HUANG: For Yang, adapting meant meal planning and working with neighbors to get food and supplies delivered. Yang is an epidemiologist at Hong Kong Polytechnic University. So she was able to work remotely, teaching classes online. The quarantine has stretched to seven weeks. It's an unprecedented attempt to slow the spread of COVID-19, a disease which has sickened more than 125,000 people and killed more than 4,500 worldwide. Dr. Laura Hawryluck teaches critical care medicine at the University of Toronto. She's studied the mental health of people mostly health care workers, who were quarantined during SARS, a different coronavirus outbreak there in 2003. She says that while most people in quarantine did not get sick with SARS...

 

LAURA HAWRYLUCK: What we found is that experience of going into quarantine, of being isolated led a lot of people to experience quite significant levels of psychological distress.

 

HUANG: Such as anxiety, isolation. In the daytime, they were angry and frustrated. When they slept, they had nightmares. Those that had the hardest time stacked worry on top of worry - money, health, family. When people's loved ones got sick, it added to all that fear and anxiety. Ye Xiaoping is a social worker in south China. She volunteers with an online support group put together by medical professionals and social workers. They provide advice to people in Wuhan about coronavirus, as well as emotional support. Ye says one case the support group is working with really sticks with her. It's a 60-year-old woman whose older brother got sick from coronavirus and died just five days later.

 

YE XIAOPING: (Through interpreter) After her brother died, she was consumed by fear that she had caught the virus.

 

HUANG: Ye says that people are also scared to seek treatment in Wuhan's field hospitals because they don't know what to expect.

 

YE: (Through interpreter) People fear being infected, fear being cold, fear being hungry, fear going in, being neglected and dying there.

 

HUANG: The online support group helps calm their fears by sharing other people's experiences. They show them pictures and share daily schedules and give them advice on what to bring. In uncertain times, Ye says, knowing what they'll eat and where they'll sleep helps people face the unknown.

Pien Huang, NPR News.

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, alles ist gut said:

Tens of millions will die globally

also Rylan will get a second series of Supermarket Sweep, so pretty grim.

Good luck getting toilet rolls into the trolley.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I think we're going to end up with a lot of very embarrassed people.

How do you mean? 

[Captain Turdseye]

I’m up to 33 and 1/2 bog rolls now. In this new world I’m part of the 1%. 

[Guest]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

How do you mean? 

They won't be able to wipe their bums?

[cloggypop]

23 minutes ago, Grinch said:

 

The ladies of the night still working? 

Brothels are shut, no idea on windows but probably. 

 

My mate Dave is going to have to find a hobby that isn't the pub or the whorehouse. 

[alles ist gut]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

How do you mean? 

He meant “embalmed”, his autocorrect has had a shocker.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I can see rationing coming back in, police and Army patrolling the streets and trying to keep order in the shops etc. The supply chains are already under a massive strain and certain countries will be keeping hold of their stuff for their own people, especially food, medicine, masks and disinfectants. Electrical goods will probably be cheaper though. 

[Duff Man]

Quote

BSI open letter to Government on SARS-CoV-2 outbreak response

14 March 2020

 

British Society for Immunology members are acutely aware of the implications that the emergence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus has for global public health. Following recent announcements from the UK Government on the steps they are taking to handle this outbreak, our community has voiced significant questions about the strategy proposed. To reflect these, we have sent the following open letter from our President, Professor Arne Akbar, to voice the thoughts of our immunology community to Professor Chris Whitty, Chief Medical Officer, Sir Patrick Vallance, Chief Scientific Officer and Rt Hon Matt Hancock, Secretary of State for Health & Social Care.

 

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The world faces a huge challenge in light of the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak. The UK’s public health strategy differs from many other countries, with an aim to build herd immunity to protect the population. Within the immunology community, we have significant questions about this strategy. The ultimate aim of herd immunity is to stop disease spread and protect the most vulnerable in society. However, this strategy only works to reduce serious disease if, when building that immunity, vulnerable individuals are protected from becoming ill, for example through social distancing. If not, the consequences could be severe. 

 

Additionally, there are many unknowns in how the SARS-CoV-2 virus interacts with the human immune system and how this might play into current scenarios. For example, we don’t yet know if this novel virus will induce long-term immunity in those affected as other related viruses do not. Therefore, it would be prudent to prevent infection in the first place. More research is urgently needed on this front.

 

The UK leads the world for the quality of our immunology research. Given our current lack of knowledge on SARS-CoV-2, our community of immunologists have two asks. Firstly, we feel more needs to be done to ensure social distancing to limit the number of COVID-19 cases in the short term, especially for vulnerable members of our communities. This will enable us to buy time until we understand the virus better and can begin to develop therapeutics.  Secondly, to aid efforts, we call on the government to release their modelling data to allow scrutiny from the scientific community to better predict the course of this outbreak.  

 

We have a small window of opportunity to protect our nation, to learn about this new emerging virus and to deal with this unprecedented threat to global health.

 

Professor Arne Akbar
President, British Society for Immunology

 

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Notes for editors

For media enquiries, please contact Head of External Affairs, Jennie Evans at j.evans@immunology.org or call 07703 807 444.

 

The British Society for Immunology is the leading UK organisation representing over 4,200 scientists and clinicians from academia, clinical medicine and industry who study the immune system. Our mission is to promote and support excellence in research, scholarship and clinical practice in immunology for the benefit of human and animal health.

 

Date published Saturday, 14 March, 2020

 

https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-open-letter-government-sars-cov-2-outbreak-response

 

[Rico1304]

I can almost guarantee that the day before society breaks down and we enter a dystopian future...I’ll win the lottery. 

[J-V]

The Chinese cunts who kicked all of this off have a handle on it.

 

Citizens starting to go back to work in Wuhan.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-idUSKBN20Y03W

 

Temporary Hospitals closing.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/coronavirus-wuhan-masks-video-doctors-nurses-hospital-a9402631.html

 

Whilst good old Great Britain and the leadership of utter cunts sit on their hands waiting the inevitable that is currently on show in Italy and Spain.

[moof]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

I think we're going to end up with a lot of very embarrassed people.

The Boris Johnson, you, Matt Hancock, those bellends still going out clubbing and to crowded bars etc, Patrick Vallance

 

yeah agreed mate

[alles ist gut]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

I can almost guarantee that the day before society breaks down and we enter a dystopian future...I’ll win the lottery. 

If it’s midweek you’ll have a shot at getting the funds

[Barrington Womble]

2 hours ago, Philtrum said:

Italy reports 3,590 new cases and 368 new deaths, raising total to 24,747 cases and 1,809 dead 

Fuck, that's 1 in 13 and there's still loads of that 24k who I assume are not clear if it. 

39 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Dutch ones shut at 6pm this evening. Coffeeshops too. 

 

 

I hear the brothels are shut too? Fuck knows how you'll keep occupied over there. 

[Rico1304]

Just now, alles ist gut said:

If it’s midweek you’ll have a shot at getting the funds

Numbers on a screen!  I can’t get it out of the bank via a cash point.  
 

on that note I took some cash out last week just in case. 

[J-V]

3 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

Fuck, that's 1 in 13 and there's still loads of that 24k who I assume are not clear if it. 

I hear the brothels are shut too? Fuck knows how you'll keep occupied over there. 

Out of that total only 2335 odd recovered with over 1600 critical.

[Spy Bee]

23 hours ago, Champ said:

What ‘Pathway’? Have I missed something. Hopefully not the Liverpool Pathway 

 

https://www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/news-analysis-what-is-the-liverpool-care-pathway/

Yeah, palliative. Sorry for the delay, I get very little chance to get on here at the weekend. I don't use TLW on my phone and if I get the laptop out the 20 month old thinks that it's his toy.

 

I should say that on that cruise, there were really high incidents of 80+ year olds who were asymptomatic. I can post the study tomorrow if it's of interest to anyone.