Coronavirus

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I’m sure you have data to back this up? I hope so. 

 

You really need to install Google in your house, fella.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

You really need to install Google in your house, fella.

I’d like to see the data to back up your comment. I assume you have it so it shouldn’t be a problem. 
 

[Bjornebye]

Aaah 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10358361/Omicron-nearly-100-TIMES-deadly-seasonal-flu-scientists-believe.html
 

It’s the details in particular the ‘experts’ part that might help us here 

 

 

 

[3 Stacks]

3 hours ago, ManéMan said:

 

 

The BBC or any outlet worth its salt would "forget" to show this because those numbers are meaningless to anyone that has an iota of intelligence.

 

 

 

 

[Pidge]

From the same article: "Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, an epidemiologist at the University of Wollongong in Australia, told MailOnline his 'very rough best guess' was that triple-jabbed people were at the same risk from Omicron as they are from the flu. 'Add the new medications into the mix and it gets even more complex,' he added."

 

Also love the sting in the tail at the very end: "But nowhere near as many people are tested for the flu compared to Covid, which has seen more than 2million Brits get themselves swabbed each day."

[Carradona]

Never mind being deported, Djokovic should be hung from Sydney Harbour Bridge. Horrible vermin.

[RJ Fan club]

2 minutes ago, Carradona said:

Never mind being deported, Djokovic should be hung from Sydney Harbour Bridge. Horrible vermin.

They don’t do that shit over there…

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Aaah 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10358361/Omicron-nearly-100-TIMES-deadly-seasonal-flu-scientists-believe.html
 

It’s the details in particular the ‘experts’ part that might help us here 

 

 

 

"Bugger! He has got Google, dammit!"

Stronts, 2022

[Red Phoenix]

Quote

End mass jabs and live with Covid, says ex-head of vaccine taskforce

Dr Clive Dix says we should treat the virus like flu

Covid should be treated as an endemic virus similar to flu, and ministers should end mass-vaccination after the booster campaign, the former chairman of the UK’s vaccine taskforce has said.

With health chiefs and senior Tories also lobbying for a post-pandemic plan for a straining NHS, Dr Clive Dix called for a major rethink of the UK’s Covid strategy, in effect reversing the approach of the past two years and returning to a “new normality”.

“We need to analyse whether we use the current booster campaign to ensure the vulnerable are protected, if this is seen to be necessary,” he said. “Mass population-based vaccination in the UK should now end.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/08/end-mass-jabs-and-live-with-covid-says-ex-head-of-vaccine-taskforce

[Pureblood]

7 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/08/end-mass-jabs-and-live-with-covid-says-ex-head-of-vaccine-taskforce

Hah, nobody knows what to say. 

 

This is everywhere, too - Guardian, BBC, Daily Mail, Observer. 

[Red Phoenix]

56 minutes ago, TK-421 said:

Hah, nobody knows what to say. 

 

This is everywhere, too - Guardian, BBC, Daily Mail, Observer. 

 

I'm sure they'll be giving him shit eventually for some reason.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Take the advice of doctors and scientists. There was always going to be a point of winding this all down if they feel that time is now then fantastic. Things change and hopefully "normality" is closer than we think.

 

Now a cost of living crisis thread you cunts.

[Bjornebye]

All those journos who ran the headlines “freedom day” at the end of lockdowns should be sent to prison. 

[No2]

1 hour ago, TK-421 said:

Hah, nobody knows what to say. 

 

This is everywhere, too - Guardian, BBC, Daily Mail, Observer. 

The WHO have been saying similar for awhile. Boosters and first shots for the healthy and kids shouldn't be given while whole parts of the world have nothing. A guy from AZ said this week its untenable to keep boostering ordinary folk. Hopefully the end is near.

[Mudface]

I'm taking no notice of that article. It's from the MSM and I bet Dix doesn't even have a podcast, let alone a range of merchandise.

[Jairzinho]

4 minutes ago, Mudface said:

I'm taking no notice of that article. It's from the MSM and I bet Dix doesn't even have a podcast, let alone a range of merchandise.

"Dix you can trust"

[Pureblood]

10 minutes ago, No2 said:

The WHO have been saying similar for awhile. Boosters and first shots for the healthy and kids shouldn't be given while whole parts of the world have nothing. A guy from AZ said this week its untenable to keep boostering ordinary folk. Hopefully the end is near.

Does that mean I'm still in QAnon? It's all so confusing. 

[Captain Turdseye]

18 minutes ago, TK-421 said:

Does that mean I'm still in QAnon? It's all so confusing. 

Everyone’s in QAnon. They just don’t know it yet. 

[Denny Crane]

So if there is less hospitalisation and this leads to less strain on the health service. Surely time to use less stick and revisit the suspension of health care workers. Also worth looking at alternatives and implementing a plan -- so if unvaccinated people get ill we can identify them at an earlier stage and give prescribed drugs that could limit their symptoms. An example is the unvaccinated get tested every other day and can go about their business, if they test positive then we prescribe these new medications that prevent serious issues.

 

I'm triple jabbed 33 and fortunate enough not to see a doctor since I tried to blag a day off school well over 20 years  ago -- took the jab as I understand risk to others and myself. I think we have reached a stage now we are doing long-term damage with this zero-sum approach to vaccination v unvaccinated and worried if we continue down this path we are going to create a generation of people who don't vaccinate their kids. Public Health should be more about changing behaviour than punishment. Saying that I think some of the grifters and charlatans who have deliberately published information deserve severe punishment.

[Sugar Ape]

10 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/08/end-mass-jabs-and-live-with-covid-says-ex-head-of-vaccine-taskforce

 

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I'm sure they'll be giving him shit eventually for some reason.

It is hilarious that the very people who spend all day screaming about ‘Big Pharma’ are now all like “hey, man, look what this guy said, spot on” and preparing to defend a man who is the living embodiment of Big Pharma. 
 

 

[Paulie Dangerously]

Out of the 4 staff on my corridor only 1 is going to be in next week. I won't be in til Friday at the latest, one has long covid and the other won't be in til next week. Hard to see how we'll continue to stay open. 

[Red Phoenix]

23 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

It is hilarious that the very people who spend all day screaming about ‘Big Pharma’ are now all like “hey, man, look what this guy said, spot on” and preparing to defend a man who is the living embodiment of Big Pharma. 
 

 

I'm not saying he has to be right, I agree with him though.

 

There's also the chair of the JCVI who said this recently that's not that different (No2 referred to him a few posts back) :

 

Quote

A leading expert who helped create the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine said Tuesday that giving everyone in the world booster shots multiple times a year is not feasible.

"We can't vaccinate the planet every four to six months. It's not sustainable or affordable," Professor Andrew Pollard, the director of the Oxford Vaccine Group and head of the UK's Committee on Vaccination and Immunization, told The Daily Telegraph in an interview published Tuesday.

Pollard also stressed the "need to target the vulnerable" going forward, rather than administering doses to everyone age 12 and older. More data is needed to ascertain "whether, when and how often those who are vulnerable will need additional doses," he said.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/04/health/andrew-pollard-booster-vaccines-feasibility-intl/index.html

[Sugar Ape]

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I'm not saying he has to be right, I agree with him though.

 

There's also the head of the JCVI who said this recently that's not that different :

 

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/04/health/andrew-pollard-booster-vaccines-feasibility-intl/index.html

I’ve no idea if he’s right or not, I’m sceptical of anyone saying with any kind of certainty how this will go over the next year or so.
 

My point was if he had said, for example, people needed a fourth and fifth dose of vaccine you would have been straight on here posting his bio and talking about Big Pharma, but instead you’re saying ‘we’ll’ eventually be giving him shit ‘for some reason’. 

Hopefully this prediction ages better than his last one that Covid wouldn’t be circulating by August. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/08/clive-dix-claims-covid-not-in-uk-by-august-vaccine

 

Anyway I’m off to watch the match now so I’ll let you all crack on. 

[No2]

1 hour ago, TK-421 said:

Does that mean I'm still in QAnon? It's all so confusing. 

You will move on to the next thing, Red Phoenix will fill you in due course. Iceman is fucked though, when everyone else has moved on he will be on a street corner with a bible quote painted on to a bread board.

[Red Phoenix]

18 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

I’ve no idea if he’s right or not, I’m sceptical of anyone saying with any kind of certainty how this will go over the next year or so.
 

My point was if he had said, for example, people needed a fourth and fifth dose of vaccine you would have been straight on here posting his bio and talking about Big Pharma, but instead you’re saying ‘we’ll’ eventually be giving him shit ‘for some reason’. 

Hopefully this prediction ages better than his last one that Covid wouldn’t be circulating by August. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/08/clive-dix-claims-covid-not-in-uk-by-august-vaccine

 

Anyway I’m off to watch the match now so I’ll let you all crack on. 

 

I'm also sceptical mainly because I'm sure vaccine makers would prefer profits to roll in and might have other ideas (and there's also the chance of worse variants.) I probably would've pointed out his past if he was saying we need more doses too. Agreed that his August prediction was a mad one and also hope this one is better.